Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

[Strawberry Kiwi Propel]

It would be pretty weak if they rush Sera's "redemption" by having her take the hit that was aimed at Pentious or another Sinner or something rather than continue to work through her issues.

I made that last post as a joke, but upon thinking about it, if they do actually kill off Sera, it could setup an arc for Emily for future seasons where she takes on the responsibilities of Head Seraphim, with Lute using Emily's inexperienced naivety and innocence to carry out whatever plan she has for Season 3.

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Really Viv? That's what you would have wanted to spend the extra screentime on? Not on the multiple things you had to speedrun through? Not more on Heaven that has become an integral part to the the show? Not on characters that haven't gotten a lot of development to them like Niffty or Baxter? I think that this is proof enough that if Viv got all the episodes she wanted, the pacing of the show would still be atrocious. Also, Helluva Boss is another example since she had complete control of that show.

Also Viv, maybe you could have gotten those scenes of Alastor with the other two Vees if you had gotten rid of some of those songs. Like believe me, Vox has been the highlight of this season and I enjoy hearing him sing, but even I think he doesn't need ten musical numbers.

Wasn't this season supposed to focus on the Overlords? I mean, yeah, the Vees are the central conflict, but I figured we would've learned more about the title itself and its importance to Hell. Although Leviathan and Belphegor didn't talk in their debut episode, I feel like Bad With Us was even more half assed about establishing the remaining Overlords. Prick especially, since Viv said he's "like an Overlord", so is he one or not? He didn't go to the Overlord meeting and was scared of Zestial, despite that if he is an Overlord, he would have been there longer than Velvette because she's the youngest. There's still 2 episodes left, but I wouldn't hold my breath that we'll get more depth in either of them.

 

[Sasmate]

No and no, Viv admitted this a while ago.

Then the bitch is a giant pussy. Then again Christians would personally come to her house if she made god himself a twink with swearing issues.

 

[Mola Ram]

Then the bitch is a giant pussy. Then again Christians would personally come to her house if she made god himself a twink with swearing issues.

I would do a 180 on my opinion of this show if they introduced Jesus as South Park's Jesus, animation style and all, with absolutely no explanation.

 

[The Nothingness]

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This season just had an episode that showed Alastor wanting to be Hell's top dog and laughing in the face of Vox after he offered a partnership, not to mention Alastor doesn't seem care about anyone but himself. Now this fujoshi-loving hack of a writer says that he would get along with the other Vees?!

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

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Please show up soon, Mike. He never will show up.

This is a fake leak someone made, take note of the watermark in the bottom right corner

Damn I hope so. Fraudlastor being the ruler with Emily sounds almost as gay as hearing Balldo Rikieta speak.

I would do a 180 on my opinion of this show if they introduced Jesus as South Park's Jesus, animation style and all, with absolutely no explanation.

"Well I hail from that mountainous town somewhere in Colorado. Not much happens you see."

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

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Doesn’t Vox like, not give a shit about sinners? Just using them for his own gain? I’m not watching the show, I’m just absorbing it all through osmosis.

Mfw the wholesome chungus victims having their heads chopped off by ebil heaven are all chomos that eat people and kill each other 24/7

For fucks sake the opening scene of the series is literally sinners brutalizing each other for the lolz while Charlie sings a naive happy song inter-cut with wreckage and gore, how are they this un-self-aware about the shows own setting?

Demons killing each other for fun = a-ok
Angels killing demons to prevent overpopulation and satanic uprisings = le bad, mmmkay? Vox totally has a point guise.

I hope Lute wins just so this gay hell #resistance narrative dies.

 

[man_made_of_meat]

"Alastor would weirdly get along with them." So this means that he would get along with Valentino? Lmao

Didn't you get the memo? Alastor is a vapid little whore like all the other twinklords in this show, so they definitely would be besties

 

[InJailOutSoon]

Mfw the wholesome chungus victims having their heads chopped off by ebil heaven are all chomos that eat people and kill each other 24/7

For fucks sake the opening scene of the series is literally sinners brutalizing each other for the lolz while Charlie sings a naive happy song inter-cut with wreckage and gore, how are they this un-self-aware about the shows own setting?

Demons killing each other for fun = a-ok
Angels killing demons to prevent overpopulation and satanic uprisings = le bad, mmmkay? Vox totally has a point guise.

I hope Lute wins just so this gay hell #resistance narrative dies.

People also tend to forget that Vox is not simply targeting the exorcists in his uprising; he's planning to attack all of Heaven. The majority of Heaven had no knowledge of these exterminations. They're completely innocent here.

You could make the argument that the majority of Hell don't know this, but it just makes it more frustrating that Charlie or Sera don't bring this up at any point. If you want to show the audience that not all Sinners are violently insane monsters, then have a scene where they hear that there was a small minority of people in Heaven that called for the exterminations and not the majority, and so have some of the Sinners back off from their vengeance because they don't want to hurt the innocent. Or Hell, just have some Sinners express they don't want to attack Heaven because they have some friends and/or family up there that they care about. Just give us something to show that not all the Sinners down in Hell are all one in the same, and that some do have decent morals.

 

[Stumbling9]

If they were competent, this would be a scene at the end of the season.

That being said, have the source for this and is there more? This looks awesome.

Here you go Twitter / Xcancel

Someone else did this.

Spoiler: Emily comic

Part 1 Twitter / Xcancel


Part 2 Twitter / Xcancel

Here's one cringe

And one peak (Yes, It's AI and it does start rough, but it goes hard later)

EDIT: There's more from this person, but I'm to lazy to spam more comics.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

People also tend to forget that Vox is not simply targeting the exorcists in his uprising; he's planning to attack all of Heaven. The majority of Heaven had no knowledge of these exterminations. They're completely innocent here.

You could make the argument that the majority of Hell don't know this, but it just makes it more frustrating that Charlie or Sera don't bring this up at any point. If you want to show the audience that not all Sinners are violently insane monsters, then have a scene where they hear that there was a small minority of people in Heaven that called for the exterminations and not the majority, and so have some of the Sinners back off from their vengeance because they don't want to hurt the innocent. Or Hell, just have some Sinners express they don't want to attack Heaven because they have some friends and/or family up there that they care about. Just give us something to show that not all the Sinners down in Hell are all one in the same, and that some do have decent morals.

It's especially frustrating because we know from Emily's VA carelessly posting a picture of the script that Heaven and Charlie will make a presumably televised final plea to avoid a war that doesn't mention any of this, they only say they believe in redemption instead of confirming it and showing off Pentious, they don't outright say what a massive fuck up the exterminations were, and they don't say that it was actually a secret conspiracy and most of Heaven's bureaucracy were horrified of it coming to light and Heaven's general population are still in the dark about it.

The best part is that Vox hypnotizes the audience anyways, and we know from Angel that Vox's hypnosis can make people do things they would never do instead of needing to significantly influence them first, now I'll be generous and assume it will be revealed he can only do this to a ton of people at once after he managed to increase his power through the smear campaign and rally because him being able to do this raises massive questions on why he's seemingly wasting time on those things, but it still means you can both humanize the general Sinner population and make multiple characters smarter when just about everyone have constantly acted like absolute morons, and you would still get the plot point of Vox causing a massive Sinner uprising.

 

[sex haver]

The animation team still has continuity errors.

This has been a constant problem for this studio. Watch any episode of Helluva with Loona and literally back to back scenes will fuck up her ear piercings/scar. Sometimes one or both just don't even appear and when they do they almost always switch sides. I can't find it now but there was a video floating around a while ago where a guy literally counted every scene with Loona in it to get a number of how many times her ear markings disappeared/swapped.

we know from Emily's VA carelessly posting a picture of the script

fucking lol. This show, I swear. I have never seen a piece of media with this many god damn holes for leaks to spring from.


Unrelated to the show, oh hey look a Christian Content sticker has been added. I have a funny feeling that's going to get a lot of use in this thread.

 

[Saxxon]

I hope Lute wins just so this gay hell #resistance narrative dies.

This has to be the last season with the heaven vs hell storyline right? Even if we already know that next season its going to be all about family drama, the hotel can at least serve as main stage for it to happen right?

 

[Gondolindrim]

Even while this season has many flaws, its miles above S1. And I don't think the future seasons will capture the same fun energy since Viv says this is a throwaway season. And it really shows. She likely let the other compentent writers take the mantle on working with what they got.
I'm going to miss Vox and his funny charisma when all this is over, I don't want to go back to romance and roo and yaoibait and alastor and lesbians and other typical Viv stuff. Vox really carried the season on his back.

Yeah I feel the same way. Taking the focus off Charlie and letting the fact that she's an idiot breathe has done them wonders.

I’ve brought this up indirectly before, but do yall think the show is gonna have the balls to introduce Jesus Christ and God?

She keeps saying no, but she's been namedropping God a lot more lately, so there's a solid chance that she may do something with Him.

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

If you want to show the audience that not all Sinners are violently insane monsters, then have a scene where they hear that there was a small minority of people in Heaven that called for the exterminations and not the majority

Honestly I think even calling it "a small minority" is still overselling it. The only people that knew the exterminations were even happening are Sera, Adam, Lute and the exterminators themselves, and from what we see from the scenes of the exterminator army there can't be more than like a hundred of them.

Assuming that heaven has, at minimum, billions of people in it then a gaggle of like ~100 murderers doing something in secret isn't even "a minority", that would be considered a complete anomaly that's so small it wouldn't even be counted in most statistics. Blaming all of heaven for the exterminations would unironically be like blaming every person in Virginia for Chris raping Barb.

Also remember, the exterminations have only been happening for 7 years at this point. When Lute says she killed a total of 275 demons by herself Adam exclaims that this is a fantastic number, so I would assume that the average nameless exterminator gets significantly less. Let's absolutely highball and say that Adam himself, Lute and the rest of the exterminators kill an average of 5,000 demons a year. Heaven would've only killed a total of around 35k sinners throughout the entire timeline, presumably out of a demon population numbering in the trillions. Even if you believe that every sinner killed was le hecking redeemable (they aren't), that's still absolutely nothing. It sounds more like culling to prevent overpopulation than an attempted genocide.

We see that Adam can fucking kamehameha entire sections of hell out of existence, so if the complete eradication of sinners is what Sera had in mind then having exterminators fly down there and stab a couple people for one day then dip out is probably the least effective possible way to do it. If anything, it reminds me of the people in Texas who fly in helicopters and mow down boars with machine guns because they're overpopulating. Sure the people shooting the guns are doing it for fun, but the reason why they're doing it isn't evil or malicious.

 

[make_it_so]

 

[Grumpy Pickle Rick]

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Even Adam thought this bitch was crazy.

He literally told her to calm the fuck down during extermination day.

 

[InJailOutSoon]

Also remember, the exterminations have only been happening for 7 years at this point. When Lute says she killed a total of 275 demons by herself Adam exclaims that this is a fantastic number, so I would assume that the average nameless exterminator gets significantly less. Let's absolutely highball and say that Adam himself, Lute and the rest of the exterminators kill an average of 5,000 demons a year. Heaven would've only killed a total of around 35k sinners throughout the entire timeline, presumably out of a demon population numbering in the trillions. Even if you believe that every sinner killed was le hecking redeemable (they aren't), that's still absolutely nothing. It sounds more like culling to prevent overpopulation than an attempted genocide.

Yeah, numbers aren't this show's thing obviously. In season 1, Carmilla mentioned that 16% of the population was lost. Now whether it be from the last extermination or since the start of the exterminations happening; from the way it sounds like it seems from the last extermination, but even if we're being generous here and say it's a total loss from all exterminations, the numbers don't really add up. Carmilla says the people in that meeting room own millions of souls together; this is not including the other overlords who weren't invited to the meeting with the souls they own, and the portion of people who don't have their soul owned. With a population that has been only growing for thousands of years, it's bound to be huge.

So Vox coming out in season 2 and saying that the exorcists have killed thousands of them...it's really not a lot. Sure, it's not that good, but it's not like this extreme thing that everyone is acting like it is. If anyone is majorly contributing to this genocide, it's the Sinners themselves. The exorcists (for whatever reason) are leaving their weapons behind. You think the Sinners that are violent are just going to leave them be? Fuck no! They're going to use those weapons on each other. We have Carmilla who is mass producing different kinds of angelic weapons. She must be selling them because...why else would she be making them in the first place?

Sure, I guess you can blame the exorcists for leaving the angelic weapons down in Hell. But they didn't force the Sinners to use them on each other.

 

[Kid Named Rocket]

Donald Trump himself was at least partially exposed to Hazbin Hotel. That is all.

 

[Strangolapreti]

Donald Trump himself was at least partially exposed to Hazbin Hotel. That is all.
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I have a plan, a great plan to make america great again.
It's very simple but brillian, truly brilliant believe me.
We are going to take Viziepop, a bad writer, Elon assured me, he knows about comedy and memes and humour...
We are going to... Take her and... Stick her in the RAPE MACHINE for a couple of weeks while we allow someone else, a talented man, I assure you, a talented man is goinh to take a look at the script of her terrible, Terrible shows and rewrite them while a friend of mine, great artitst, a great artist mind you, fix these shit characters.
I made a deal with mister Bezo you see, a great man, a rich man, he promised me we are going to bring good changes to this woke show, I've already seen Vivianne's contract, a well written document, it says its perfectly perfectly legal for her to be put in the RAPE MACHINE if the president order it so.
Thank you again for voting me because kamala would not have done it, she would not have put viziepop in the RAPE MACHINE, she would have praised her shitty show because she would have been a bad president, the worst even.

 

[TNF]

So with season 2 it's implied that everybody speaks modern english. Which I find funny asf. Why is Lucifer, Charlie, Adam, Sera etc. all speaking english? Why doesn't Charlie understand japanese? Dunno, but guess Heaven and Hell is only for the anglosphere or that the Exterminators killed everyone that doesn't speak english,