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>Funny song about a bi and a carpet muncher.
Ha, and embarrassing leak, right.
>Squeakers watching.
I got to say, even when back then you had kids watching South Park, it wasn't this... unsettling? I don't know, there is something weird about it.
Probably because most of South Park was never supposed to be sexy, while this is...even with how unsexy it is. Just seeing Vaggie gyrating for those few seconds has made me laugh more than any of this show's "jokes" that I specifically made a gif of it. 20251021_194631.gif
 
It seems like a lot of you in here have a major Love-hate thing going on with this show and its counterpart.

I watched Hazbin hotel once back when it came out. The premise is genuinely cool but because a mentally ill, asexual, obese, crass white woman is making it, its executed awfully. I realized this eventually after watching, it feels less like a story and more like a bunch of edgey internet OCs slapped into a very loose “plot”. Basically family guy but furries.

I can see why some farmers here like it, but I also understand why you all hate on it. It’s sort of like the Deltarune fandom on here too actually. There’s some things to like, but there’s a LOT to hate.
 
Probably because most of South Park was never supposed to be sexy, while this is...even with how unsexy it is. Just seeing Vaggie gyrating for those few seconds has made me laugh more than any of this show's "jokes" that I specifically made a gif of it.View attachment 8063250

Yeah I saw that animation for the ass shaking I don't get it this is so unsexy. Vaggie in the show never was like this. Very hardened woman trope this seems oddly "racist" like shes some flavor or Hispanic so she has to shake her ass? This show claims to be progressive but in alot of ways its not.

Flamboyant gays
Gays are sexual predators
Hispanics are violent and overly flamboyant (Vaggie/Valentino)
Women are useless
Rape is hot (only when it's gay men if its women its yucky.)
Privileged people are gods and you should be grateful for their presence.
Slavery is OK if its in their nature they are created to be slaves (Imps- minorities/black people.)
Gay people are worst than Nazis, pedophiles, etc. (Like 90% of them are gay.)
Acesexuals just masturbate to themselves.

I'm sure theres more theses are just at the top of my head.
 
Because such things are supposed to be played like a joke. Like "haha people who are messed up are funny" or something like a playtime for little children like dads playing tea house princesses with their daughters. Theres also the rebellious factor of it.
This is meant to actually rot down young brains and trying to be deep and serious, instead of being funny or cool.
Probably because most of South Park was never supposed to be sexy, while this is...even with how unsexy it is. Just seeing Vaggie gyrating for those few seconds has made me laugh more than any of this show's "jokes" that I specifically made a gif of it.View attachment 8063250
This is beyond the "Writer's Poorly Disguised Fetish" meme. This is someone straight-up putting borderline porn into their show and calling it a joke.
At least when something like Queen's Blade does it, it has the balls to go all the way (and I doubt the creators of that series give their kids access to their dev folder).

Sorry to double-post, but guess what? More leaks.
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TL;DR: Hope you're a Vox fan, because he seems to make up 90% of the plot this season.
 
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TL;DR: Hope you're a Vox fan, because he seems to make up 90% of the plot this season.
Well Vox was one of the only few characters I did like in season 1. But knowing how the writing usually goes, he'll probably be one of my most hated characters by the end of this season.

But anyway, holy shit there is so much going on in this season. And these are probably just the highlights. I know that apparently not every episode will be a standard 22-minutes but still. I just know a lot of things will either be rushed or serverly underdeveloped, and none of it will have a satisfying conclusion.
 
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This is beyond the "Writer's Poorly Disguised Fetish" meme. This is someone straight-up putting borderline porn into their show and calling it a joke.
I'm pretty sure one of the story board artists behind Angel Dust has a bdsm fetish, recording himself doing the Poison dance and put it in youtube, and even trooned out because of him. So the story does have someone blatantly shoving in fetishes in it.

It seems like a lot of you in here have a major Love-hate thing going on with this show and its counterpart.

I watched Hazbin hotel once back when it came out. The premise is genuinely cool but because a mentally ill, asexual, obese, crass white woman is making it, its executed awfully. I realized this eventually after watching, it feels less like a story and more like a bunch of edgey internet OCs slapped into a very loose “plot”. Basically family guy but furries.
I feel the same. I wasn't here during the HH pilot age, where people had high hopes. It was like six or seven years back, so I can guess sunk cost fallacy is also a factor.
I gave this show a curious watch and it was awful. Then saw the pilot and was astonished how different it was. Would I watch S2? I don't know. But Season 1 was like watching a car crash.
This thread also has tips on what to do and what not to do on writing so it does have bonuses.
 
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This is shit is fucking embarrassing. At this rate, they might as well just officially release the whole season with how bad this is getting

Im literally horrified at the level of cringiness of the Charlie's and Vaggie s song. It s just so fucking pathetic, totally random, fandom material, and i just dont see how shall anybody expect us to take seriously this cartoon anymore. Im sorry, I probably sound very dramatic, but HOLY FUCKING SHIT, you could have suggested this part in a thousand ways (The road to El Dorado scene between Chel and Tulio) and the bed shrinking like a damn the sims moment is so ugly :cryblood:

Someone on 4chan made a rough transcript of the first clip.
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Even with the low audio, the musical number comes off like an adult Disney Channel Original Movie song (like High School Musical or Camp Rock). It's so cringy.
 
Probably because most of South Park was never supposed to be sexy, while this is...even with how unsexy it is. Just seeing Vaggie gyrating for those few seconds has made me laugh more than any of this show's "jokes" that I specifically made a gif of it.View attachment 8063250
I want the theory that some employee's kids leaked this so badly, imagine being in their shoes right now.
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I'm a bit skeptical of this, mainly because Viv can't keep her mouth shut so she would 100% talk about how we would be getting some Angel Dust backstory this season if this is true, plus a couple episodes are boiled down to a single plot point, you think the alleged leaker would at least give more details than that, nevertheless it will be confirmed if Vox's first song is titled 'Once we get up there'.
 
SHE'S GAY
SHE'S TWERKING
SHE'S FLARING HER ASS
This was one of my main gripes with the show. Sure Hell is supposed to be full of depravity, anguish, and misery, but the show treats hell less like….Hell, and more like a quirky high school drama.

Before I knew who was making it, what the genre was, and what age group it pandered to, I genuinely imagined a gritty, raw, and realistic look on the demons of hell desperately trying to redeem themselves in the eyes of god. That’s technically still the premise but it’s overshadowed by stupid shit like the homo-erotic crap, the cringe edgelord tropes, the shit writing, and other inane stupid shit that would not be plot worthy of H E double hockey sticks.
 
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I'm sure Keith David, with his decades of A-list Hollywood experience. can spot a rapist in under a millisecond and at his age likely would not restrain himself from strangling one, which means he is unable to stand on a stage with any of the men in this photo.
As for the women in this photo, they all look like the ones who cover for rapists in the local indie music scene, except for the asian one, who looks like the girl who calls him out then gets blacklisted because all the chicks uglier than her have just been waiting for an excuse.
I went to see a theater show a few months ago and during the preshow announcement a stagehand came out to warn the audience that hecklers or anyone causing disturbances would be asked to leave. And even after that, there were retards literally shouting out memes and TikTok noises in the audience during the show. It was an 18+ show and it made me feel like an ancient motherfucker just being there. It's getting unbearable out there
if only there was a cure for such disorders
 
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I'm a bit skeptical of this, mainly because Viv can't keep her mouth shut so she would 100% talk about how we would be getting some Angel Dust backstory this season if this is true, plus a couple episodes are boiled down to a single plot point, you think the alleged leaker would at least give more details than that, nevertheless it will be confirmed if Vox's first song is titled 'Once we get up there'.
But anyway, holy shit there is so much going on in this season. And these are probably just the highlights. I know that apparently not every episode will be a standard 22-minutes but still. I just know a lot of things will either be rushed or serverly underdeveloped, and none of it will have a satisfying conclusion.
The part with Angel Dust is the biggest red flag regarding this leak's legitimacy. In the early stages of Season 2, Viv confirmed we were going to learn Alastor's backstory and why Sir Pentious is in Hell. Hardly anything on Angel Dust. I heard people claim Blake mentioning that Angel and Val's relationship was going to be shown as less black and white, but excluding being Vox's butt buddy, there are no plot points regarding Valentino nor Velvette, despite that they're meant to be this collective force, never mind the rest of the cast. With how bloated the roster is, everyone's gonna be fighting for screen time.
 
I'm sure Keith David, with his decades of A-list Hollywood experience. can spot a rapist in under a millisecond and at his age likely would not restrain himself from strangling one, which means he is unable to stand on a stage with any of the men in this photo.
As for the women in this photo, they all look like the ones who cover for rapists in the local indie music scene, except for the asian one, who looks like the girl who calls him out then gets blacklisted because all the chicks uglier than her have just been waiting for an excuse.

if only there was a cure for such disorders
How long before one of the va’s gets into a controversy of a sexual nature?
 
How long before one of the va’s gets into a controversy of a sexual nature?
Alastor's voice clearly thinks he's smart enough to run a Neil Gaiman scam but he's not. We see him publicly talking to minors with pet names. He's gonna get like...one tit grab in at a San Diego Marriott before it falls apart.
Brandon's much more cunning and will have a good run before anyone squeals.
Purple suit man looks like a regular sex maniac who enjoys autograph time with the fans then goes home to degenerately fuck his normal-aged girlfriend or wife.
Jigsaw Puppet woman in top left is gonna touch a drunk girl.
Horvitz, not creepy but as another lifelong NERRRD I'll wager he has some issues remembering when it's time to take your eyes off the cleavage.
Guy in the Gary Glitter costume on the far left is a complete mystery to me but I guess I should err on the side of caution because why the fuck else would anyone even own a Gary Glitter costume.
 
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How long before one of the va’s gets into a controversy of a sexual nature?
the only thing that's surprising about something like that is that it hasn't happened yet. my money's on Amir. I mean come on. He virtue signals arguably the hardest out of the whole cast AND he's a sandnigger.
 
If she does it will only be to turn him into another villain character to clown on or have killed violently.
To be entirely fair, I don't think Viv is the type to do that. She's a hack writer who can't differentiate yaoi smutfics from an actually positive relationship but she doesn't write people into her show to kill them.
 
the only thing that's surprising about something like that is that it hasn't happened yet. my money's on Amir. I mean come on. He virtue signals arguably the hardest out of the whole cast AND he's a sandnigger.
Whenever a dude leans too hard into the "male feminist" thing it always gives me pause.

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I can see why some farmers here like it, but I also understand why you all hate on it. It’s sort of like the Deltarune fandom on here too actually. There’s some things to like, but there’s a LOT to hate.
Im one of the people that got interested in vivienne s work on hh thanks to the youtube algorithm, back to before she released the pilot. I found all her other work uninteresting and uninspiring tbh, i will respect the amount of work and mastery behind her animations but it stops there. I know that there are a lot of animators out there that work as independent artists, what personally I appreciated of her back then was the dedication to this project and how it gained collaborators that were genuinely interested in making this cartoon happen. It was such a momentum. For someone like me for example that works in art and is a huge lover of comics/animation in general, it was so uplifting to see so many people coming together and having fun with it, and the result is to this day imho wonderful. Perfect? No, but perfection doesnt exist. You can feel the love and care behind the creation of the pilot, and probably this is what made me "fall in love" so hard with it. I can understand that mostly everything that goes from underground to commercial will lose some of its magic, but holy shit this has been a complete trashfire so far.
I honestly wonder if Viv ever takes the time to visit the farms and read our comments, if so, I beg you: allow good screenwriters to do this show, for the love of whatever furry god you look up to.
 
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