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Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?


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She was good as Millie, too. I love the line from the pilot when she puts her heart and soul into calling Loona a bitch.

As for Rogers, yeah. Have you seen that Normal British Couple thing he did with Stella's VA before HB? It's absolute trash. I sat through the gay bird melodrama out of morbid curiosity but I got like two episodes into Normal British Couple before thinking, "Nah, this is shit." and noping out.

E: Actually, is Rogers a Broadway actor? His Wikipedia doesn't mention it.
Well Erika Henningsen was on Broadway. Brandon Rogers has a theater background and radiates theater kid energy the most out of the cast. Nevertheless, good VAs cannot save a show with bad writing. New episode of Helluva Boss in less than a week and I'm not feeling particularly hopeful.
 
I'm honestly kinda pissed that it's just gonna come out with retcon of the pilot, that would probably make Stolas "uwu innocent", and not an exploitative cunt that he was in the actual pilot
Murder Family is still canon though, so they can't erase the fact that Stolas called Blitzø to make the deal, knowing that he was getting shot at and could die. Not to mention all the other times in Season 1 he made Blitzø uncomfortable.
Maybe it would be better if Charlie and Vaggie didn't start out as a couple. Seeing them slowly getting together could be more interesting than what we ended up having.
I think the issue stems, that in the Pilot we were never given any impression of a romance, sure we see how Vaggie worries about Charlie and doesnt want her to embarass herself, but it never gave romantic vibes. More like that they're very good friends or partners in crime who always look out for each other. Quick cut to the Amazon show where they're supposed to be a couple, but they at no point show any actual chemistry with each other.
There's a reason why most shows don't have their main characters already together in a relationship at the beginning of the show. A lot of times it is more interesting to see a romantic relationship come together overtime. Plus it easier to get to know the character's individually without being attached to someone else.

There's also the fact that in the pilot they worked better with each other than in the show. Vaggie had faith in Charlie's ideas, and Charlie would listen to the advice Vaggie would give. But in the actual show Charlie almost never listens to Vaggie, and Vaggie obviously has no faith in Charlie because she kept the secret that she was an exorcist from Charlie the entire time they knew each other.
 
He tries too hard. It's like a person with no natural charisma trying to be entertaining, or smth.
Dude, I could not agree more with you.

You know, you can tell the difference between a talented creator and an untalented creator.

The talent/skilled artists and writers have s natural charisma to them. The artists and writers who have no talent or skill and everything they create is cringed and forced.

There's also the fact that in the pilot they worked better with each other than in the show. Vaggie had faith in Charlie's ideas, and Charlie would listen to the advice Vaggie would give. But in the actual show Charlie almost never listens to Vaggie, and Vaggie obviously has no faith in Charlie because she kept the secret that she was an exorcist from Charlie the entire time they knew each other.
I can see Pilot Charlie and Vaggie being a couple. But I cannot see Show Charlie and Vaggie being a couple.

Honestly, if I were to pair Show Charlie with anyone, it’d probably be Alastor.
 
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25 SSI checks, and few pennies from unemployed people 😭🙏Bros so proud that another low quality money grab is successful
 
I can see Pilot Charlie and Vaggie being a couple. But I cannot see Show Charlie and Vaggie being a couple.

Honestly, if I were to pair Show Charlie with anyone, it’d probably be Alastor.
Pretty much any pairing in the Amazon show I can't see working well because almost no one has chemistry with each other. Everyone is so fucking bland and/or annoying.
 
Dude, you took the words right out of my mouth.

I miss how passionate Vaggie was in the pilot. Her voice actor put a lot of emotion in her Vaggie’s lines.

I also hate how they turned Charlie into a stereotypical quirky girl. The pilot Charlie had a backbone and could stand up for herself.
Generally, the main 4 had such a promising dynamic based on how they were written in the pilot. Charlie had a backbone that was prepared to deal with the inconsiderateness of Hell's denizens, but had the naivety of wanting things to play out like a fairy tale and allows those who could hinder her goals into her life. Vaggie was the most supportive of Charlie, emotionally, although her worrisome concern for Charlie causes her to be overly judgmental to others, even if she has a point. Angel Dust is a loose cannon who does what he sees fit, committing actions that might jeopardize the hotel's image, something he should, and is shown that he's capable of feeling remorse and accountable. And there's Alastor, literally the last person Charlie should trust, a fact she herself knows, but despite what people say about him, and that he himself is openly dickish, is the most similar to Charlie in terms of theatrical showmanship and treating life like a musical, with a joyous personality to boot.

Fuck that, let's just have Charlie be an optimistic stickler, who because of "villains" like Adam, Sera, and the Vees, is objectively right, with said "villains" being everything wrong with her plans, Vaggie be a talented singer, Alastor be a crybaby who wants all to bow to him, so the only reason why Charlie would ever side with him over Vaggie is if Vaggie hurts her, not because of shared commonalities.

Oh, and Angel Dust is there too, I guess. Can't depict SA victims being bad people in a show about improving bad people.
 
So anyone know anything about the game? Is it one of those things where they just start with some basic game template and then slap trademarked characters into it (it kind of looks like that) or an actual game?

There are literally companies that solely exist to do shit like that, like make CCGs of random shit so long as they're paid to or get a cut.
 
I like to imagine a future for Octavia where she's a happy and successful ruler even just with Stella. The captions tell a story too. She looks so pretty in her regalia. :feels:

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Why do Brandon Rogers lines feel so forced and inauthentic when he's supposed to be a Broadway actor?
Brandon Rodgers content has gotten progressively worse over time; I attribute this to his weight loss which resulted in him going through a late in life demon twink phase. This is most clearly shown in his videos post 2017 where dicks and dildos were flying all over for no real reason or even an attempt at comedy. Had he stuck to videos with the office or neighborhood watch format, I would probably enjoy his shit substantially more.
Vivs is kinda enabling his unfunny behavior a lot more now but at the same time, I wouldn't be surprised if he has slowly started to hate her as any gay man would when stuck in a room with a fujoshit for longer than 10 minutes.
Regardless, this show is shit, the art is shit, the fandom is shit, the VAs are shit, and Vivs is a gay incest loving fujoshit.
 
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25 SSI checks, and few pennies from unemployed people 😭🙏Bros so proud that another low quality money grab is successful
Looking at the kickstarter, seems only reason it got so much cash, and more, is because 1k people picked the Grimore Edition, which is 69$ plus shipping, only 969 went for the collectos version (99$ plus shipping) and 126 for the Retail (29$ ans shipping). Also, I gotta say the stretch goals are very "meh" but expected for game focuses around cards. But, lets factor in, that only around 2453 fans donated money so far. For a show that rakes millions on youtube, kinda seems like small number of donators.
 
So, having checked the beta rules, Im gonna borrow a line from Spoony: "The game is unbalanced trash. But, whats important is context, and in this case its a party game. An at parties, people do many things and it includes getting drunk"

So, basically like I called its a point based game, targets are shuffled and then drawn at random, you can use magic cards or IMP-terruption cards (someone kill me) to screw over other players, theres also summon cards which gets you various characters from the show, each card having their own thing that gives a quick resolve. Game ends after 5 rounds as basically portal closes or if all targets were snuffed out and players calculate who got more points.
 
So, having checked the beta rules, Im gonna borrow a line from Spoony: "The game is unbalanced trash. But, whats important is context, and in this case its a party game. An at parties, people do many things and it includes getting drunk"

So, basically like I called its a point based game, targets are shuffled and then drawn at random, you can use magic cards or IMP-terruption cards (someone kill me) to screw over other players, theres also summon cards which gets you various characters from the show, each card having their own thing that gives a quick resolve. Game ends after 5 rounds as basically portal closes or if all targets were snuffed out and players calculate who got more points.
This sounds like a gacha game but board game.

They could do a hitman styled game but I know they will fuck it up some how
Can you imagine a Yandere Simulator where you play STOLASS while you try and kill for generic senpai (Blitzø)?
 
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This sounds like a gacha game but board game.
Yes and no, it's kinda standard for these games that work around a card system. The reason I used the Spoony quote is because you know this games balance is gonna be up the ass, I predict the Stolas and Satan cards are gonna be the most broken ones. With Stolas maybe you being allowed to use a spell during the opponent's turn (you can only play magic cards during your turn) or heck maybe how players cannot use magic cards against ya. Games like these always fall into trouble of having..mmm..3-4 cards in the deck that will flip a huge middle finger to the other players.
 
Nobody has ever said that Morgana. Not even the most vivid haters of these shows. They just complain about the quality of merch and how overpriced it is. And how it's contributing to consumerism or something.

Morgana you always do this; choose some random statement that nobody had said and proceed to make an argument about it so you can appear to be superior and right. Why you always lying?
 
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