Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

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Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?


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You think this show jumped on the "written by VivziePop" meme?
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Even in this case, where they're commenting on it being overused, it stops being funny and just starts being downright annoying, where you really do just want her to shut her damn mouth.
The sub version of the song is elevated just on the principle of it being humorous that it's entirely sung in Engrish, but even that was done better in Carol and Tuesday.
 
Here's some quality Stella art for all you Stella lovers out there. The beach one looks like it's straight out of the show. @Friendly Primarina @didelphigina et al you know who you are.

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It's hard to say if I like these characters because they're not really even characters. They're just "nice", and that's it. I would say that I like Millie's parents, Joe and Lin, because I see them to be the typical good people according to Hell's standards and cultures.
I like Millie's parents. They're pretty cool.
 
So then she decided that Stella would put a hit on Stolas. Which yeah, not a good thing to do, but our protagonists are killing multiple people so who gives a damn
It also doesnt help, that this was during S1, where it was still was a dark comedy, which means Stella putting out the hit felt like a sort off "They do this almost commonly" due to being from rich families and lets be honest, aside from holy weapons nothing can harm em. Heck, even Stolas wasnt phased and he sat next to Stella at the table as she was making the hit order, it was almost like "Okay, sure dear. Just make sure this guy offers a money back guarantee...ya know I hate paperwork...."
 
I feel like we're beating a dead horse at this point, but what the hell else is there to talk about during the wait for season 3?
When the short before last came out people spent the time discussing the Mr. Rogers guy and whether the ending was funny or not. The last short was so boring we had one page, maybe two, of comments and that was it.
 
I think my major issue with Vivziepop's shows is that she has genuinely good premises (A hotel designed to help redeem the irredeemable, and a bumbling assassination business that goes to Earth to complete contracts) that she clearly has no interest in actually utilizing whatsoever. Everything relating to the core premise of the show is relegated to spinoff material or off-screen implication whereas the inner workings of Hell and homosexual love stories are clearly the tales she actually wants to tell.

The resentment wouldnt be anywhere near as fierce if the core premise was acted on rather than sold to the audience, only for the bait and switch to be a completely different story.
 
I feel like we're beating a dead horse at this point, but what the hell else is there to talk about during the wait for season 3?
Listing more characters we like best, which look to be ones that are dead, ones Vivzie wants the audience to hate, and ones that don't have much of a character and haven't been ruined yet.

Here are my picks.
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Supposed incestuous relationship not withstanding.
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I think my major issue with Vivziepop's shows is that she has genuinely good premises (A hotel designed to help redeem the irredeemable, and a bumbling assassination business that goes to Earth to complete contracts) that she clearly has no interest in actually utilizing whatsoever. Everything relating to the core premise of the show is relegated to spinoff material or off-screen implication whereas the inner workings of Hell and homosexual love stories are clearly the tales she actually wants to tell.

The resentment wouldnt be anywhere near as fierce if the core premise was acted on rather than sold to the audience, only for the bait and switch to be a completely different story.
At least with Hazbin, you can feel Amazon breathing down her neck, forcing her to keep the plot at least somewhat on track, even if the pacing is terrible.
Helluva is clearly just a vanity project that Amazon only acquired because they know fujos are only behind furries when it comes to fandoms willing to shell out money for anything.
 
At least with Hazbin, you can feel Amazon breathing down her neck, forcing her to keep the plot at least somewhat on track, even if the pacing is terrible.
Helluva is clearly just a vanity project that Amazon only acquired because they know fujos are only behind furries when it comes to fandoms willing to shell out money for anything.
I honestly dont get the sense that Amazon is responsible for the terrible pacing of Season 1 at all. It was Vivzie's inability to peel back the scope of her massive setting and cast for one relatively short season that sunk it, which could maybe be excused by her not knowing if she would ever get more seasons, but still.

I dont see Amazon going "No, Vivzie, it is absolutely IMPERATIVE that you have Mimzy get an episode."
 
Listing more characters we like best, which look to be ones that are dead, ones Vivzie wants the audience to hate, and ones that don't have much of a character and haven't been ruined yet.

Here are my picks.
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Supposed incestuous relationship not withstanding.
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All good choices. Glitz and Glam's musical number was one of my favorites of season 2. Haven't heard anything about incest rumors and frankly I don't want to.
 
Tbh I never really got incest vibes from how Glitz and Glam were portrayed except for that one piece of Valentine's Day merch that was posted here. On the other hand, holy shit did they go out of their way to say it without saying it with that merch. It's as subtle at giving incest vibes as Loona is as furrybait.
 
The Hazbin sub has some shockingly decent takes. It feels like during the long drought between seasons, people who aren't insane Tumblr fangirls can come down from their high and realize how much of a tryhard loser Al is.
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All good choices. Glitz and Glam's musical number was one of my favorites of season 2. Haven't heard anything about incest rumors and frankly I don't want to.
Tbh I never really got incest vibes from how Glitz and Glam were portrayed except for that one piece of Valentine's Day merch that was posted here. On the other hand, holy shit did they go out of their way to say it without saying it with that merch. It's as subtle at giving incest vibes as Loona is as furrybait.
I think they're supposed to appeal to the people who are into twins cause you get "two for the price of one". But yeah, no real vibes of twincest in the actual episode they appear in. It's only in the horny merch that is sold of them. Which in the last mech that was a pirate run, I didn't see that sort of fetish with them.
The Hazbin sub has some shockingly decent takes. It feels like during the long drought between seasons, people who aren't insane Tumblr fangirls can come down from their high and realize how much of a tryhard loser Al is.
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Yeah, if Viv wanted to keep Alastor as this mysterious figure like in the pilot, she really should have just followed through with her original pitch of episodes. Alastor isn't really a forefront character like the other cast in the pitched episodes. There's not really any episode that is focused solely on him, so you really have no idea what kind of a person he is or what his true plans are.

Meanwhile, in the actual show, there is a lot of episodes that focus on him that reveal a lot about his character. So now you don't have the appeal of mystery and unknown about him; which makes him come off less threatening and more of a try hard. Which would be okay, if the show wasn't still trying to sell him as what he was initially in the pilot. Mimzy in the show tells the exactly story that Vaggie did in thr pilot; that Alastor had this immense power and he was defeating countless of other powerful overlords in the process. But then you see that most of the overlords don't really feel threaten by him, so you have these two differing ideas of him that are clashing together.
 
Mimzy in the show tells the exactly story that Vaggie did in thr pilot; that Alastor had this immense power and he was defeating countless of other powerful overlords in the process. But then you see that most of the overlords don't really feel threaten by him, so you have these two differing ideas of him that are clashing together.
Alastor in the S2 leaks outright states that because Rosie/Lilith made him disappear for several years that made him lose all his respect. This is another instance of Viv having no sense of how time works for Sinners, because all the current Overlords are either heavily implied or outright stated to have been in power for decades if not centuries in Zestial's case, so several years isn't actually all that long to them. Which speaking of him, Zestial is the only character who remotely acts or speaks like he's from his era.
 
Alastor in the S2 leaks outright states that because Rosie/Lilith made him disappear for several years that made him lose all his respect. This is another instance of Viv having no sense of how time works for Sinners, because all the current Overlords are either heavily implied or outright stated to have been in power for decades if not centuries in Zestial's case, so several years isn't actually all that long to them. Which speaking of him, Zestial is the only character who remotely acts or speaks like he's from his era.
Vox continually shitting on Alastor was the best part of the S1 finale.
 
Alastor in the S2 leaks outright states that because Rosie/Lilith made him disappear for several years that made him lose all his respect. This is another instance of Viv having no sense of how time works for Sinners, because all the current Overlords are either heavily implied or outright stated to have been in power for decades if not centuries in Zestial's case, so several years isn't actually all that long to them. Which speaking of him, Zestial is the only character who remotely acts or speaks like he's from his era.
And that was only 7 years. Which given to what basically is immortality to Sinners, isn't a lot.
Vox continually shitting on Alastor was the best part of the S1 finale.
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Vox is probably my favorite character in the show so far (minus Keekee). Can't wait for that to change in Season 2 because I know they're going to ruin him. Also, was Velvette's VA sick that day when they were recording the singing for that song? No wonder she feels like a third wheel to the other two men.
 
You know what would have been funny if stolas wife had a side imp like he did and her and blitz ran into each other while running whatever they took from them
 
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