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OK in reality it's revealed to be a strawberry jam cannon, but that's a lot less fun.
Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread
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OK in reality it's revealed to be a strawberry jam cannon, but that's a lot less fun.
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Having the strawberry jam be the only colored element in the comic was an excellent stylistic choice.
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Sweet waffles I forgot how dumb this comic was, also fact that Judy was made to look and sound like Hillary.
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They mentioned that people in Heaven benefited from the technological advancements that he made. Which I can believe because that's very much true to real life. They probably don't know all the shady things he had to do to make such things possible for them.
Loopty-Goopty wanted him dead because he missed his best friend.
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Even in their TV ad he was the one who appeared to do the heavy lifting.
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Yap, I'd say it's this mixed with his nature is what got fans to like him, plus wanting to see more about him. Like, it's not even a big surprise that Collin gets some snazzy art or stories featuring him.
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Or they knew and very much wanted him to stay alive so he wont go to hell just yet.
It's possible that if the Cherubs won and Lyle did what they told him, he might've ended up in heaven because of it.
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If you look closely it appear Moxxie's arms are not even supporting his wife. The creator of this piece would fit perfectly at Spindlehorse.
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Now that you mention it, it looks more like Millie has just collapsed into Moxxie who has his fists clenched in impotent rage. (I mean he's not too impotent since he got Millie pregnant but you know what I mean.)
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Yeah this is something that gets over looked: The entire point of praying for someone isn’t done purely because they’re a good person that needs something or about self improvement, it can be done cause someone else seems irredeemable and awful, but you want them to repent. It’s important to do this especially if they’re the latter and close to death.
If this is Christian Heaven, then angels aren’t looking at them thinking, ‘oh this human is too bad, we can’t help him no matter who prays’, no, if the order comes down, they’re doing their best to save him (end of the day though, the ball is in the human’s court. They need to make the choice because free will) nor are they busting out the champaign when someone gets damned, neither is God. They’re very likely mourning the loss.
Unfortunately, this is HH/HB, so it’s likely we’re talking about So-Cal Heaven, where it’s less eternal paradise basking in the light and love of God, and more akin to a gated Hwite community filled with hypocrites and straw-men (Those hypocrites have a pretty nice and clean city though. You have to wonder if the exclusion works), because God forbid there be a place where good is just good and there’s no subversion.
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I guess you could look at Lyle akin to Scrooge. Perhaps if he had saw the errors of his past, he could have change for the better. And then have been redeemed on Earth to go to Heaven.
Granted I don't know if the Hellaverse could comprehend something like that. They seem to separate the bad people as either: people who are completely bad and don't deserve any sympathy or a chance to be better; or they're not really that bad, just misunderstood and had a troubled life. The only person we have as reference to being redeemed is Sir Pentious. And I'm still not entirely sure how that came to be even with the leaked episode.
Which brings up something that I've been pondering about: Does Charlie even know how her patients got to Hell in the first place? Has she even asked them what their life was like before they got to Hell? I feel like that's the first important step; to acknowledge what the problem is. And all her exercises she had for them never acknowledge that (or even really worked). Which would be fine if that was something Charlie had to learn and grow from; that her current methods aren't working. But everyone around her and the show itself acts like she has done everything well and that she should change absolutely nothing.
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He kind of did, right before he got smashed by a piano.
This show could have greatly benefited from a motif like every show having a "Sinner of the Week" introduced in the opening scene and with their story weaving through the rest of the episode (or multiple episodes) until they are redeemed (or not). Sort of like a Six Feet Under episode.
Gonna get a little autistic here, but since we’re on the topic of Collin, I know I’ve said it before on this thread, but for some of the moments of HB to work, especially as a drama, you need someone with a moral center to them to act as IMP’s Jiminy cricket, at least giving them a reason to have moral quandaries. Collin would fit that role perfectly. (It would even give the fans on twitter a “redemption arc” despite the fact that it’s not like he needs one. I know stealing is brought up often, but I feel like that’s used by people who would argue that anyone poor that steals has not other options, so I wonder why the angels doing it would be any different.)
Like imagine the comedy of a lone angel desperately trying to reign in a group of dysfunctional demons that can’t seem to get their shit together, be it their interpersonal relationships, or just not murdering people. Sometimes he’s successful, sometimes he joins in the mayhem when the target turns out to be a demon/demons or if he just sees that it’s just time to go Old Testament on a human. Even better: Imagine the poor guy learning about Stolitz and becoming increasingly more horrified the more he learns.
And it can make sense as to why he’s there with cannon:
First option) He’s a hostage that they took to keep the other angels and DHORKS off their backs (this plan is not going to work, and Collin knows it), but now, everyone keeps going to with their problems because he’s an angel, he has to have some good advise if he was being sent to save humans. Meanwhile he’s wondering how these assassins managed to beat them when they can’t grasp a concept as simple as ‘Don’t be a dick to everyone you meet’. He tries to get them to be moral, but there’s only so much that he can actually do.
Second option) Collin’s goes there of his own free will to try and convince them to stop, because bullets and battles sure as hell aren’t working, maybe words will. He figures that if he stops IMP, maybe he can be let back into Heaven and see his family again. He knows it stupid. He knows it’s a long-shot. He knows that more likely than not, someone will turn him into mutton by the end of the week, but by jove will he give it his best try. What’s he have to lose? He’s already banished from Heaven. Stolas thinks he’s adorable, treating him more like a stray pet than a person and even asking Blitzo if he can keep it, promising to feed and clean up after it. The others are convinced someone, probably Loona if she gets a little hungry, will turn him into mutton by the end of the week, so of course they let him stay because they want front row seats to that. And from there it’s just him witnessing a slow motion train wreck that is IMP and Stolitz.
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It's not a terrible idea in concept. The only issue I see is Collin isn't shown to have much in the way of agency or independence at this point in the show and it would be more likely for the writers to add some new retarded character to serve a similar purpose. Gotta create buzz and content for all the fan's video essays! (Many of which I've watched.)
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Dr. Prima has detected dangerously low levels of Stolas suffering in recent pages:
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Snoot Game did something similar where feather plucking was analogous for self harm. That's the vibe I'm getting here. Personally I doubt Loona would be that invested in Stolas' well being, considering they've barely interacted and she has more of a relationship with Octavia than any of the Goetias.
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This was my exact thought. I can't imagine she'd want to see Stolas dead for Blitzo's sake - she did risk her life for him with the rest of I.M.P., after all. But if she walked in on him doing this she'd probably just say, "Ugh, don't clog the drain with those fucking feathers."
Millie had to practically beg her for one tiny favor, when she didn't even have anything better to do. Just saying.
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The early Moxxie was shaping up to be like that. He was the only member of the team who seemed to have any ethical qualms about what they were doing (although the most prominent example involved him being completely wrong).
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Even the concept itself is very utopic and imposible: Really Charlie thinks a serial killer, a pedophile, a dictator or even the Satan Itself can be redemed to go to heaven?
If Charlie is pure and a good person, why she isn't in the heaven?
If there are sinners in the hell, it's because there is a reason in first place. Charlie Goals doesn't make sense, worst if you read the bible and you learn the concept of "Sheol" mentioned in the Bible.
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Actually not even the crime of betraying Christ himself is unforgivable. The ultimate cardinal sin of Judas was not even betraying Jesus. It was committing suicide in despair, believing that he had committed a crime so vile that not even God could forgive it.
There is no sin that God cannot forgive, and believing you have committed such a sin is an insult to God. It is a form of arrogance where you believe your own ability to sin is beyond the ability of God to forgive.
Charlie is actually right on that issue, but perhaps not on the issue of whether she's the person to do it.