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Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?


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That's how you know Blitz is a wish fufilment character: He has scores of bedmates and partners who loved him so much that they dedicated the remainder of their unending lives to worshipping him. Him, an annoying, shrieking clown who can't go 2 seconds without a sex joke or crying about his self inflicted problems.

I hate Blitzo anyway so that episode in particular just kinda crystalized it and made my reasons much more solid.
Apology Tour is a great example of this where Blitzo apologizes a lot to the people he's wrong yet it doesn't stick, and Stolas dates another dude but it doesn't stick.

Theres also Sinsmas which makes a big deal about Blitzo sparing a gay father with his new husband cause he sees himself in him which by itself I guess could be the start of a character arc but then he kills a dude who has adopted orphaned children without thinking despite seeing the crying orphans.
What compels you people to keep watching this? Every time I check this thread it's like watching people stab themselves with forks and complain about how sharp it is. Is there something that makes it worth it?
 
Sure, though one would've still expected something much more I dunno... powerful and/or menacing-looking? At least in the presentation? Instead it just looks hilariously weak as shit; like they're just average adult animation people rather than these scarily powerful, supernatural beings.

The thing is that Adam is presented more of a "battle mage" in a big robe casting spells and swinging an axe, so for him to fucking bare knuckle punch Charlie (who's holding a weapon) with his lanky arm makes her look more pathetic than normal, as if you watched someone get punched by gandalf.

Charlie simply gets slapped, lands a stab while he's distracted, Adam no sells it and instantly disarms her. Girl is a worse fighter than Alastor but managed to escape fraud watch.
 
What compels you people to keep watching this? Every time I check this thread it's like watching people stab themselves with forks and complain about how sharp it is. Is there something that makes it worth it?
Mild PL but the "gentler take on the Moxxie brain damage" art I posted that was rightly mocked a while ago finally made me curious enough to check out HB after all this time. I just wanted to know more about the characters, especially Moxxie and Millie.
Page 1 of untitled Moxxie brain damage comic by sherbett8
Say what you will about this lunacy, I contend that brain-damaged Moxxie is only slightly more helpless than canon Moxxie.
 
Mild PL but the "gentler take on the Moxxie brain damage" art I posted that was rightly mocked a while ago finally made me curious enough to check out HB after all this time. I just wanted to know more about the characters, especially Moxxie and Millie.
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Say what you will about this lunacy, I contend that brain-damaged Moxxie is only slightly more helpless than canon Moxxie.
I don't know whether to laugh or feel sad?
 
What compels you people to keep watching this? Every time I check this thread it's like watching people stab themselves with forks and complain about how sharp it is. Is there something that makes it worth it?
Sunk Cost Fallacy for me, plus the show genuinely used to be good.

Besides it's fun to talk about
 
Mild PL but the "gentler take on the Moxxie brain damage" art I posted that was rightly mocked a while ago finally made me curious enough to check out HB after all this time. I just wanted to know more about the characters, especially Moxxie and Millie.
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Say what you will about this lunacy, I contend that brain-damaged Moxxie is only slightly more helpless than canon Moxxie.
Having a loved one being reduced to the mental equivalent babbling toddler isn't something you can make cute or touching, especially if it's a spouse. You are now not only deprived of someone you love dearly, but you're now anchored to a shambling parody of them. Good thing Moxxie wasn't the sole breadwinner!

Give him short term memory loss, make him mute, or blind, anything but being reduced to a dribbling retard!
 
Having a loved one being reduced to the mental equivalent babbling toddler isn't something you can make cute or touching, especially if it's a spouse. You are now not only deprived of someone you love dearly, but you're now anchored to a shambling parody of them. Good thing Moxxie wasn't the sole breadwinner!

Give him short term memory loss, make him mute, or blind, anything but being reduced to a dribbling retard!
With how people view mentally retarded people as kids who can't consent. How long will people jump to Pedophilla.
 
What compels you people to keep watching this? Every time I check this thread it's like watching people stab themselves with forks and complain about how sharp it is. Is there something that makes it worth it?
Honestly, it’s like having a lens to view everything wrong in modern story telling with a trifecta (bad morally, thematically, and technically). It’s like a slow motion train wreck. You know you shouldn’t be seeing it, let alone pay attention to it, in fact there have been other train wrecks that you’ve haven’t turned your head towards, but this particular train wreck is so fascinating, so much collateral damage is happening, things are bending in such a way and parts are flying so far into the distance, that you can’t look away.
 
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What compels you people to keep watching this? Every time I check this thread it's like watching people stab themselves with forks and complain about how sharp it is. Is there something that makes it worth it?
This insinuates that I hate talking about the show and I personally don't, I like talking and discussing it, I just don't think it's particularly well made.
 
What compels you people to keep watching this? Every time I check this thread it's like watching people stab themselves with forks and complain about how sharp it is. Is there something that makes it worth it?
I got sucked into the fandom in 2019, when things were still very exciting as this was one of the first major indie animation productions to rack up millions of views. The falloff from its initial potential was brutal. Yeah it's pretty much sunk cost fallacy at this point. That and I kinda like watching/reading critiques of it so I can get better at my own writing. The animation is very pretty and I actually kind of like Viv's style (though a lot of the character designs do suck) so it isn't too hard for me to keep watching both shows.
 
Honestly, it’s like having a lens to view everything wrong in modern story telling’s trifecta (morally, thematically, and technically). It’s like a slow motion train wreck. You know you shouldn’t be seeing it, let alone pay attention to it, in fact there have been other train wrecks that you’ve haven’t turned your head towards, but this particular train wreck is so fascinating, so much collateral damage is happening, things are bending in such a way and parts are flying so far into the distance, that you can’t look away.
I think I understand what you mean. I've only seen the Chaz episode, and I remarked at the time how he's a worse character than I thought was possible to write—to the point where my brain can only interpret him as a sort of metanarrative angel of merciful death. He's like a gentle voice saying, "it's ok, you can stop watching now: you're free."
 
Pilot Charlie being superior once again.
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It's still red but not reddish enough to be blend in with the other characters, also shows that despite living in hell, she's not as evil as the rest of the cast.

I'm not an graphic designer, and yet I somehow know this shit.
I’ve been wanting to say this for a while, it is unbelievable how they fumbled Charlie’s design for the series when they already had this one that was good, if not great. The character is cute, the colors are pleasing. If I was forced to see more of this, I would want to look at it (General rule for characters I have: If you have to look at it for 2+ hours, make sure its nice to look at.) but for some reason they updated it a bright red that honestly is hard to look at, not just because of blending in with other characters, but because it starts to hurt the eyes after a couple of minutes. I don’t know who suggested the change, but just put them side by side and it should have been obvious which was better.
Even the revamped design for the ADDICT music video is better than what we got in the actual show itself.
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What compels you people to keep watching this? Every time I check this thread it's like watching people stab themselves with forks and complain about how sharp it is. Is there something that makes it worth it?
One my professors taught us this: if you want to make good media you can't just engage with the good shit; you also have to take the bad shit as well. And you also have to figure what makes something good and what makes something bad. That way you know what to do to make a good product, and what easy mistakes are made that you should avoid.
 
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I'm surprised they never used the f slur in the show, considering how some gays want the word reclaimed on top of the joke of Blitzø nearly saying retard in one episode.
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Simple. The word "retarded" was used in the pilot and people got upset over that. So now they have to make sure they don't go over the line of being too offensive in their show set in fucking Hell. That's why Blitzø almost called someone a retard in season 2 but stopped himself and instead said "really can't say that anymore". It's a reference to the backlash that they received from using the word in the pilot. They do want to say the word, but know they can't; otherwise Viv will get canceled.
FUCKING SAME. Something I never get from those Hatedom idiots is how focus they are on Stolas being awful when Blitzo is way way WAY worse.
Again, another simple answer. It's because Blitzø will get called out for being an awful person, while Stolas never does. And there's also the fact that Blitzø gets shit on for...rejecting Stolas. That was the point for the entire episode of Apology Tour. Not for Blitzø to learn how he should treats others better; but for him to learn how to treat Stolas better. The guy that basically treated him pretty much like a sex toy for the majority of their time together.
 
FUCKING SAME. Something I never get from those Hatedom idiots is how focus they are on Stolas being awful when Blitzo is way way WAY worse.
It's because the show is more aware of Blitzo being an asshole while Stolas is never called out for any of his shitty actions yet the show wants to treat him as this pure misunderstood guy. When anyone has a problem with him, it's always their fault whether it be Blitzo or Octavia despite the fact that Stolas is the one in the wrong.
 
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