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Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?

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Smity Werbenjagermanjensen said:
I did a search and I was severely disappointed I couldn't find the edit that this scene is begging for.
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I tried.
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Smity Werbenjagermanjensen said:
From what I've heard it's going to be 'canon remake' of Helluva's pilot, thing is that won't fix the massive issues that Stolas and Blitzo's relationship in S2 caused because the first season gives absolutely no hint they knew each other before Blitzo tried to steal the book.
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The Nothingness said:
Will the pilot be deleted once the new episode is uploaded? Viv clearly wants it to go away with "fixing" Stolas, Blitzo stopping himself from saying retarded, and removing any dark humor such as having the crew kill a child.
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Saxxon said:
Great, so now we are gonna get the full context (a.k.a retcon) on their relationship, can't wait to see how little sense it makes with what we saw in season 1. I guess making them childhood friends (an even egregious retcon) wasn't enough.
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Well they already changed it back in the first episode of season 2 that Stolas always loved Blitzø from the beginning, so I wouldn't be surprised if they recontextualized the new epsiode to show that Blitzø was just a tsundere trope for Stolas. Because even according to Brandon:
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Blitzø has always loved Stolas from the beginning. 1753398347969435m.webp
These are the faces of a man who is clearly in loved.

Have even the writers forgotten that in the first epsidoe Blitzø was not only annoyed, but downright disgusted when Stolas was "flirting" with him over the phone? Have they forgotten that in Loo Loo Land, Blitzø thought Stolas was calling him to have sex with his daughter?

Can these people not tell the difference between a tsundere and someone who just is completely not interested in another romantically? Well, Viv is a fujo, and the average shit in most BL media can't tell the difference between in it either.
 
InJailOutSoon said:
Well they already changed it back in the first episode of season 2 that Stolas always loved Blitzø from the beginning, so I wouldn't be surprised if they recontextualized the new epsiode to show that Blitzø was just a tsundere trope for Stolas. Because even according to Brandon:
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These are the faces of a man who is clearly in loved.

Have even the writers forgotten that in the first epsidoe Blitzø was not only annoyed, but downright disgusted when Stolas was "flirting" with him over the phone? Have they forgotten that in Loo Loo Land, Blitzø thought Stolas was calling him to have sex with his daughter?

Can these people not tell the difference between a tsundere and someone who just is completely not interested in another romantically? Well, Viv is a fujo, and the average shit in most BL media can't tell the difference between in it either.
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Why does everything Viv touch turn to gayness? Also my god do I wish Stolas was still evil like in the pilot.
 
didelphigina said:
Abel's VA got revealed a few hours ago. Apparently it's some dude from Fall Out Boy named Patrick Stump? Yes, THE Fall Out Boy. The band whose music you've felt you heard in every truck commercial. Ever.

How in the world is the lead vocalist for the most mainstream rock band in the world a VA for a twink version of Abel? Why? Just how much in the millions did Vivziepop pay to cast this dude? Just get Dwayne Johnson to VA in this stupid show atp.

And the voice is what I expected from a twinkified version of a biblical figure, too. God, man.

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It's like they took a look at how much the Mark of Cain arc from Supernatural sucked and said "Hold my beer."
Kid Named Rocket said:
you ever think about how Charlie's full demon form is made out to be such a big deal, to the point she actually gets first blood on Adam, and then he just... knocks her out with one barely-serious punch, and basically manhandles her until Lucifer shows up?
female focused show btw
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Wow, the First Man took Charlie out in one punch. Almost like some kinda... Single Punch Male.
InJailOutSoon said:
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This is apparently an answer to a question asked at the panel.

I thought the new episode was going to be about IMP's first mission together. Before Stolas was ever even on the scene. Why the fuck is going to be here? Is this just going to be a retread on Murder Family? On the pilot?

Why can't I have one episode that doesn't focus on the damn bloody bird Viv?
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You have to wonder if Viv wanted to make the show about Stolas with how obsessed she is with him.
 
Outer Space Traveller said:
LoL, I expect his reveal to be a full shit show. Abel did NOT die however the fuck years ago only to be shipped with Simon Peter - who was a pretty "homophobic" and even somewhat "xenophobic" man.
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This is so very very wrong it feels, and likely is, blasphemous. Not only that, Peter had a wife. Likely he had kids, all things considered. Viv doesn’t want to mention real world events, but this is fair game? Shipping biblical and historical figures? I feel dirty just trying to wrap my head around it about it. I kinda wish they would just make a joke where it’s not Simon Peter, but some other guy named Peter.
(Fun fact for those that don’t know, anyone deceased that has entered Heaven is considered a Saint. This includes angels. This is why on All Saints Day the congregations asks all saints known and unknown to pray for them. So if there has been a Peter that has died, and made it to Heaven, he would be ‘Saint Peter’. Put this into any other show, the joke writes itself but this is a Hell show. Research? Effort? A niche but clever application of technicalities? Can’t have those. Let’s just have gay fun time!)
Ultraman Orb Dark said:
You have to wonder if Viv wanted to make the show about Stolas with how obsessed she is with him.
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Considering how the narrative is treating him, and how all the plot lines relate to him, do we really have to wonder that?
 
Peeps, I’ve been out of the Vivziepop loop for like a month and just found out that those fucks are remaking the pilot episode as a Season 3 opener. What the hell is going on out there?!
 
Since we're picking on "All 2 U" my favorite part is where it cuts to Blitzo and he's making this face:
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Probably the most mood-killing reaction to someone singing since A Clockwork Orange.

God, that party was such a loser convention I'm surprised Moxxie didn't show up out of instinct.
 
Clancee said:
Makes you wonder, how in the world did they manage to make Moxxie, the show's punching bag and the butt of jokes, seem like less of a loser than all of Blitzo's exes?
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Probably because the one time we see Moxxie dealing with an ex he doesn't curl up in the fetal position and cry like the partygoers. If Blitz genuinely ruined their lives e.g. leaving them with a ton of debt like Verosika I could understand them bearing a grudge. But I'd expect them to be cold and resolute about it like Verosika. People deal with grief differently, I suppose, but they just come off as lame.

Stolas does point out how stupid and petty it is but I can't give him full credit for it since he still showed up.
 
Clancee said:
Makes you wonder, how in the world did they manage to make Moxxie, the show's punching bag and the butt of jokes, seem like less of a loser than all of Blitzo's exes?
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Probably because the majority of them wouldn't even be considered an ex. We see that one guy Blitzø was making out with at Beezlebub's party. Why the fuck is he even here? Why are so many people still hung up about this guy? MV5BYzQwMTdlZjQtZGE0Ny00MWNmLWIxMGYtZWZjMmNhOWE2MTExXkEyXkFqcGc@._V1_.webp
These people are crying over this fugly-looking asshole. Dude doesn't even have any hair. What's so great about here? I mean the show says he has a big dick and is great in bed so maybe that's the reason? But at the same time will say he's shit in bed, so who knows!? I don't get the appeal!
 
FK009 said:
This is so very very wrong it feels, and likely is, blasphemous. Not only that, Peter had a wife. Likely he had kids, all things considered. Viv doesn’t want to mention real world events, but this is fair game? Shipping biblical and historical figures? I feel dirty just trying to wrap my head around it about it. I kinda wish they would just make a joke where it’s not Simon Peter, but some other guy named Peter.
(Fun fact for those that don’t know, anyone deceased that has entered Heaven is considered a Saint. This includes angels. This is why on All Saints Day the congregations asks all saints known and unknown to pray for them. So if there has been a Peter that has died, and made it to Heaven, he would be ‘Saint Peter’. Put this into any other show, the joke writes itself but this is a Hell show. Research? Effort? A niche but clever application of technicalities? Can’t have those. Let’s just have gay fun time!)
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I wouldn't doubt it somewhat has slants on it being blasphemous. Simon Peter having a wife equalled him having children, no doubt. He was a fisherman, a hard worker in his trade. I have no idea who thinks that translated into "stepford grin showman". If the real Peter saw this fagman, he would give a biblical beating.

Also, Vivianne's critics are no better "Blonde man JEWISH!!! WRONG!!!". First of all, there were 3 provinces in today's Palestine: Judaea, Samaria and Galilee, where Peter was from. Plus, all the apostles were Judaean (much like today they would be theoretically "American") - yet they were from the tribe of Benjamin, including Saul/Paul. (With the exception of Judas Iscariot). This includes the misnomer of calling Flavius Josephus a "Jew"; he was from the tribe of Levi as he stated himself, yet was from province of Judaea (so, a Judaean).
InJailOutSoon said:
Probably because the majority of them wouldn't even be considered an ex. We see that one guy Blitzø was making out with at Beezlebub's party. Why the fuck is he even here? Why are so many people still hung up about this guy?View attachment 7699395
These people are crying over this fugly-looking asshole. Dude doesn't even have any hair. What's so great about here? I mean the show says he has a big dick and is great in bed so maybe that's the reason? But at the same time will say he's shit in bed, so who knows!? I don't get the appeal!
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An OC, probably. So as long as he is bashed and not the "bestest evar", he isn't a Gary Stu.
 
Outer Space Traveller said:
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I wouldn't doubt it somewhat has slants on it being blasphemous. Simon Peter having a wife equalled him having children, no doubt. He was a fisherman, a hard worker in his trade. I have no idea who thinks that translated into "stepford grin showman". If the real Peter saw this fagman, he would give a biblical beating.
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Like I doubt they're going to have Peter mention his wife in the show, because she is a woman and you know how this universe treats them. But surely they wouldn't make Abel and Peter an actual relationship in the show.

...right?
 
The tired cat said:
Huh, lead singer of Fall Out Boy? Im kinda impressed, though pretty sure the band disbanded so I kinda doubt the dude would charge that much, he aint on that huge popularity level like said Keith David is.

Edit: Though, no wait him being a rockstar he would actually charge more like Kesha did.
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This is not unprecedented. He voiced (and, I believe, also sang) a guest character in Star VS the Forces of Evil.
 
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