Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

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I once again must say I find it weird how she killed off Adam in the first season. Why? Was it literally to try and remove anyone that wasn't a homo or a girlboss? You establish a fun and energetic villain, then kill him off immediately; now you have to do the work of establishing another villain that needs to be as good or better to watch.
Well, supposedly, since they didn't know if they were going to get a Season 2, they speed through the story to get as many plot points as possible.

Now it'd be one thing if she had a dead set vision for these characters, but that leaked episode/comic list proves that isn't the case.
 
Well, supposedly, since they didn't know if they were going to get a Season 2, they speed through the story to get as many plot points as possible.

Now it'd be one thing if she had a dead set vision for these characters, but that leaked episode/comic list proves that isn't the case.
It doesn't matter how many episodes Viv has for Hazbin Hotel; Helluva Boss is proof that she can't pace a story when she has the freedom of length. It's probably a good thing that Hazbin Hotel is probably only going to have 4 seasons with 8 22-minute episodes. HH would have probably become a shitty romance drama if that wasn't the case.

(Also, realized that a similar thing happened with Zoophobia where Viv forget about the initial premise of "counselor with a fear of animals is sent to a school filled with them" to basically a high-school relationship drama)
 
Sort of off topic. Does anyone remember another lolcow who was very adamant about Hazbins abuse/trans issues. I belive their name was Lilly Tino. Where they interviewed Raphelle about the rape scene and defended them so hard because they were both trans? I'm having trouble finding the video as Lilly is having some issues finding their videos for some reason.
 
It doesn't matter how many episodes Viv has for Hazbin Hotel; Helluva Boss is proof that she can't pace a story when she has the freedom of length. It's probably a good thing that Hazbin Hotel is probably only going to have 4 seasons with 8 22-minute episodes. HH would have probably become a shitty romance drama if that wasn't the case.

(Also, realized that a similar thing happened with Zoophobia where Viv forget about the initial premise of "counselor with a fear of animals is sent to a school filled with them" to basically a high-school relationship drama)

Viv is so obsessed with relationship drama. I wonder if she's still bitter about an ex she had. Or worse, she's like Taylor Swift and has a long line of exes.
 
Can't help but feel for Viv here since she really doesn't like that kids are in her panels

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Look, as a kid I watched stuff like South Park, Beavis and Butthead, Drawn Together and other edgy stuff because at the end of the day kids always want to feel like grow ups by watching things they are not supposed to watch, but the difference is that I knew my mom would ban my ass from the tv for watching that stuff which added a sense of danger to what I was doing and made it more fun, not take me to a South Park QnA panel, so that's just bad parenting outside of the control of HB crew. But even if, I bet you Trey and Matt would have handed this situation way better than these dunderheads.

I don't see why they couldn't just reject to answer any question from the kid out of sheer principle, It would have come out as rude but you need to set the example, specially not make the situation worse by then prociding to make inappropriate comments. Very bad look, all of them came out as being scared of putting limits on their own fanbase which reputation is alredy in the gutter and situations like this keep worsening it.
 
Look, as a kid I watched stuff like South Park, Beavis and Butthead, Drawn Together and other edgy stuff because at the end of the day kids always want to feel like grow ups by watching things they are not supposed to watch, but the difference is that I knew my mom would ban my ass from the tv for watching that stuff which added a sense of danger to what I was doing and made it more fun, not take me to a South Park QnA panel, so that's just bad parenting outside of the control of HB crew. But even if, I bet you Trey and Matt would have handed this situation way better than these dunderheads.

I don't see why they couldn't just reject to answer any question from the kid out of sheer principle, It would have come out as rude but you need to set the example, specially not make the situation worse by then prociding to make inappropriate comments. Very bad look, all of them came out as being scared of putting limits on their own fanbase which reputation is alredy in the gutter and situations like this keep worsening it.
I guess that's the thing really. A lot of us consumed media that we shouldn't have when we we younger; the main difference was we usually kept it to ourselves or discussed it with peers around our age, and it felt like the majority of adults were against having kids around and at least tried to put up some boundaries to prevent it. But now, it doesn't feel like they're trying to be neutral or even just ignore it. But are actively encouraging kids to get involved.
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This has been continuing for almost two years at this point, and there hasn't been any change. And, yes it is mainly the guardians fault, but at some point you have to put some blame on the other side. Yes, a parent shouldn't let their kid be drinking alcohol in bar, but the bartender shouldn't be still selling the drinks to the parent to give to the child. Both can be at fault here. (This was probably not a very good comparison, but you get what I mean.)
 
One day she just sounded like a completely different person. For instance was she started saying 'chuckle fucks' (then would apologize for swearing right after) I don't know how else to describe it other than she was trying to talk like him lmao.

For example she was explaining how to play a videogame but she would begin by going "Ok now listen here" like him. It actually took me a while to put it together-- I suspected it was a Rick and Morty character at first because it just seemed so try hard, but the 'chuckle fuck' made me have to rack my brain a little more.

It is really autistic. I hope it's a phase but I'm terrified with the whole 'lol I'm pan' situation. I can only intervene so much because the parents just think it's 'normal teen stuff' but I'm terrified of potential future poon-ing. I mean I have told the parents in grizzly detail about what the queer community can do to a kid but they think I'm absolutely overreacting.
chucklefucks is a pretty common insult phrase last time I checked, the apologizing is weird though. Also how the hell do you take someone opening with saying "listen here" as a rick and morty thing? Why the fuck do they see it as a blitzo thing? This is all very confusing!
 
She's likely going to bring Adam back given how Alex Brightman is still involved in the show through flashbacks or even pander to her fans as she sometimes does.
Might be brought back as a demon and become the shows whipping boy, who knows.

Personally him and Lute were the only characters I really liked, so I'm not sure if one can really carry the villain role alone without the other. Most of the other characters that might become the "main villain" are annoying and gay, so I'd probably skip it.
 
Might be brought back as a demon and become the shows whipping boy, who knows.

Personally him and Lute were the only characters I really liked, so I'm not sure if one can really carry the villain role alone without the other. Most of the other characters that might become the "main villain" are annoying and gay, so I'd probably skip it.
If the leaks anything to go by, he's just gonna be an imaginary friend that appears for Punished Lute to guide her, so really she's pretty much in cooksville and Viv got a good excuse to keep the VA around.
 
If the leaks anything to go by, he's just gonna be an imaginary friend that appears for Punished Lute to guide her, so really she's pretty much in cooksville and Viv got a good excuse to keep the VA around.
Also Alex Brightman voices Sir Pentious, so he's staying around for that at least. Maybe Viv will plan for him to Adam to come back as Sinner in S3 or S4 because it's a popular theory in the fandom. Wouldn't be the first time she's done something like that, ex. Vaggie turning out to be an exorcist.
 
Also Alex Brightman voices Sir Pentious, so he's staying around for that at least. Maybe Viv will plan for him to Adam to come back as Sinner in S3 or S4 because it's a popular theory in the fandom. Wouldn't be the first time she's done something like that, ex. Vaggie turning out to be an exorcist.
Or Lesbian Charlie with Vaggie, or Angels being evil, or all of the other writing she stole from fanfics.
 
Sometimes this thread disappears from my watched threads. Even the thread itself gave up. Love it.
Honestly, most fans are slowly giving up. I would imagine it would be tiring defending every aspect of a show that has more plotholes then a broken condom or swiss cheese. Like, anyone ever wonders how Viv passed High School since English is a required grade to pass. They teach you in school how to write. I gave up on even trying to make sense on this show ages ago. Viv isn't even that interesting, she is like a robot. Repeating the same dead points and retconning parts of her show off platform instead of taking the Ls.
 
Yeah there would be more things to discuss when there's more episodes of her shows, Viv is just not that interesting on her own
 
Yeah there would be more things to discuss when there's more episodes of her shows, Viv is just not that interesting on her own
She's a major lolcow but most of her bullshit is contained to twitter it looks like, so still boring as fuck. Nothing but the same spazzy shit we've already seen.
 
Can't help but feel for Viv here since she really doesn't like that kids are in her panels

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This was posted over in Viv's dedicated thread. It's from a Tumblr anon who claims to work for a con organizer, so take it with a few grains of salt, but tbh it sounds like something Viv would do.

tl;dr, con organizer repeatedly asks if Viv wants to make her HH/HB panels 18+, she says no, it'll be PG-13 at most, then repeatedly rugpulls them with adult content to the point that they've enforced 18+ wristbands on her panels as often as they can ever since.

The first time Viv was at one of our cons, it was a helluva panel, scheduled for 5:30 pm time slot. Viv complained insisting on a 1pm it was more convenient for her team. Someone allowed it, because Viv's team informed us, that while it's an adult show, the panels don't get graphic or they keep it PG or sometimes PG13 which is 'rare.' This is a lie. They played a clip of an upcoming episode right off the bat Blitzo makes a sex joke and there's a lot of language. It raised concerns after some teenagers attended the panel, got a few complaints from parents that took their teens.

Second Con of ours a different one, that approved Viv to be there enforced a later time slot no exceptions, we ask Morgana or whoever it was speaking for Viv if we should make the panel 18+ only considering the last one. They insist that it's not needed, explain what they plan on doing for it, what they'll discuss, and showed us the clip of the episode they planned on playing ahead of time. This clip was tame, it sounded like a PG-13 panel. Panel happens, they switch the clip on us last minute, Brandon takes a question too far, etc. Other cons with us we make Helluva panels later some we're able to get away enforcing 18+ some aren't due to complaints from Viv&co.

2024 hazbin comes out, they want both a Helluva and a Hazbin panel, they have not had a Hazbin panel with us, but this is around the time that one 9 year old asked a question at Galaxy Con, to protect us, we make both wristband only.

TLDR: Cons can manage depending on organizer, usually at guest request, Viv's team lies a lot and prevents it from being done.

If this is true, she has the power to stop this happening anytime she wants, but she whines, complains, and lies her way out of it and then has the temerity to act surprised when people bring their kids in anyway.
 
Is Viv...advocating for children in adult spaces? We know she's "SO AGAINST IT" on her twitter but from an outside POV looking in,..





oof. Not the best look, honey.
 
If this is true, she has the power to stop this happening anytime she wants, but she whines, complains, and lies her way out of it and then has the temerity to act surprised when people bring their kids in anyway.

She's the boss. She should really be restricting this to 18+ and very firmly disallowing people who bring in minors with a stern, hard "no."

Strange for someone who is supposedly aligning with the female empowerment crowd. Being in power requires the ability to say "yes" or "no" and standing your ground.


No wonder she instead made Helluva Boss a drama where Blitzo stays a sex-obsessed freakshow with so many problems instead of acting like an actual boss. I think it's because she herself cannot act like one.
 
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