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Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?

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InJailOutSoon said:
That's not very hard to do, considering that all the men in Hazbin Hotel are some flavor of gay. I don't think there's one confirmed straight male character in the show.
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The best character in the show - Adam? Unless they retroactively say he fell in love with Lucifuck.
 
InJailOutSoon said:
That's not very hard to do, considering that all the men in Hazbin Hotel are some flavor of gay. I don't think there's one confirmed straight male character in the show.
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I still want to know why Viv can't create one male character who doesn't like dick! When I say that I'm including Alastor because he's obviously in the closet.
 
Sonya-chan said:
>Pentious, Lucifer are not straight
Sure Jan, one is married to a woman, the other is written like a shy straight dork guy, but they are totes not straight though.
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Wait, didn't Pentious ascend to heaven because of his love for a woman? Does this mean you get into heaven when you stop being gay?
 
gay porn is the best porn said:
but I'm not sure about his earlier vids where he rants like a reddit athiest about religion, magic, and vegans behind his dinosaur OC.
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Found it, also included his deleted vids like the one where he said the n word and made a trannyphobic joke or whatever as part of his many autistic reddit tier anti-religion videos with his dinosaur oc.
 
@Whatevermancer sent me this, but refused to share it here after I asked him to. Not sure whether this is a real thing and how old it is, but I chuckled anyway.
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ssaneenah said:
@Whatevermancer sent me this, but refused to share it here after I asked him to. Not sure whether this is a real thing and how old it is, but I chuckled anyway.
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I know it's similar to the 80s Satanic panic for metal music, so basic internet research to these people is like the plague, but the idea that ZERO fact checking went into this and they go so far as to call Charlie "transgender Satan, the Princess of Hell" has me reeling. There's a literal character named Lucifer in HH and they couldn't even be assed to google that.
 
Outer Space Traveller said:
The best character in the show - Adam? Unless they retroactively say he fell in love with Lucifuck.
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1. Not confirmed.
2. He's dead.
3. We as the audience are supposed to hate him. We're supposed to think he's the worst person there, even though he does make some good points and is a lot of ways a tragic figure. Kind of like Stella and Striker...

Isn't it interesting how those three characters are written so overly the top evil, so we as the audience can't sympathize or agree with them in anyway?
 
InJailOutSoon said:
That's not very hard to do, considering that all the men in Hazbin Hotel are some flavor of gay. I don't think there's one confirmed straight male character in the show.
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Chadam? Or did they gay him up too?
 
AnOminous said:
Chadam? Or did they gay him up too?
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I'll just quote my previous response to this:
InJailOutSoon said:
1. Not confirmed.
2. He's dead.
3. We as the audience are supposed to hate him. We're supposed to think he's the worst person there, even though he does make some good points and is a lot of ways a tragic figure. Kind of like Stella and Striker...

Isn't it interesting how those three characters are written so overly the top evil, so we as the audience can't sympathize or agree with them in anyway?
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InJailOutSoon said:
3. We as the audience are supposed to hate him. We're supposed to think he's the worst person there, even though he does make some good points and is a lot of ways a tragic figure. Kind of like Stella and Striker...

Isn't it interesting how those three characters are written so overly the top evil, so we as the audience can't sympathize or agree with them in anyway?
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Lute as well, especially with Adam out of the picture. Based on the leaks, they're going to make her overly maniacal with her quest for vengeance, so not only we the audience can root for the characters to take her out, but to further cement how "enlighten" Sera has become.
 
ssaneenah said:
I guess he’s talking about his dick. By the way, “Sallie May Doesn’t Count” - I agree.
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It's regarding a phrase he said in S1:E5 (Harvest Moon Festival). Still stupid, though. Cramming in literal quotes and calling it merchandise. Blegh. Rarely do quotes in merch look good.

The merch in general are just tongue-in-cheek references to certain episodes. Nothing creative, nothing new. Nothing that actually stands out. Just look at a memorable scene people use for their stupid tenor GIFs, slap $20-40 on it and call it a day. You just know they're like, "Our paypigs—I mean, our loyal, unbiased fanbase—will buy it no matter what. They're already gonna pre-order our pride merchandise, so why stop? Keep feeding them low quality screenshots turned into merch and sell it at a high price with high shipping costs! Just what we needed!".

Retink Retunk said:
Wait, didn't Pentious ascend to heaven because of his love for a woman? Does this mean you get into heaven when you stop being gay?
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"What did Viv mean by this?" counter goes up by 1.

ssaneenah said:
@Whatevermancer sent me this, but refused to share it here after I asked him to. Not sure whether this is a real thing and how old it is, but I chuckled anyway.
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On one hand, this feels like hardcore bait. On the other hand, don't underestimate those Christians who think everything mildly "non christian" as something super satanic that's gonna turn Johnny into a cannibalist or something. Though, they're a bit on the money regarding the whole "making people worship the devil and have a very skewed understanding of actual Hell yada yada yada 'hh/hb fans when they go to hell and feel the force of gnashing teeth instead of having gay sex with the super queer and quirky furries' meme or whatever" sort of assumption.

I feel this is quite old, though. Probably was made when the show was still new or starting to gain attention outside the target audience.
 
Strawberry Kiwi Propel said:
Lute as well, especially with Adam out of the picture. Based on the leaks, they're going to make her overly maniacal with her quest for vengeance, so not only we the audience can root for the characters to take her out, but to further cement how "enlighten" Sera has become.
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They'll flanderise - and worse, humiliate - the only damn good character left in the series. The actual person who should be fucking cracking skulls and smashing everyone up. Sad!
didelphigina said:
On one hand, this feels like hardcore bait. On the other hand, don't underestimate those Christians who think everything mildly "non christian" as something super satanic that's gonna turn Johnny into a cannibalist or something. Though, they're a bit on the money regarding the whole "making people worship the devil and have a very skewed understanding of actual Hell yada yada yada 'hh/hb fans when they go to hell and feel the force of gnashing teeth instead of having gay sex with the super queer and quirky furries' meme or whatever" sort of assumption.

I feel this is quite old, though. Probably was made when the show was still new or starting to gain attention outside the target audience.
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It has to be some bait, to mock the Q public.
 
InJailOutSoon said:
I'll just quote my previous response to this:
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Isn't it interesting how those three characters are written so overly the top evil, so we as the audience can't sympathize or agree with them in anyway?
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Except even before this went over the top, I was already sympathizing with Stella. Even early on, Stolas had done so much narcissistic bullshit that I thought Stella had totally comprehensible reasons for hating his guts. That's before Vivz even just retconned it so she always just hated him literally for no reason, even though he was in the same awful forced marriage situation.

I think it would have been a more complex and intelligent plot design to have them have a falling out not because they were in a loveless royal marriage, but because Stella preferred propriety and keeping up appearances and Stolas was a flamboyant imp-fucker and was embarrassing her.

In my initial view, her problem wasn't that he was fucking other people, even peasants like imps, but that he was making a mockery of her and her social position instead of keeping it on the down-low, you know, like actual royalty did back in the day.

That would require a little complexity, though, and there's nothing like a little complexity to get in the way of a fujoshit schlicking to her delectable gayboys.
 
AnOminous said:
Except even before this went over the top, I was already sympathizing with Stella. Even early on, Stolas had done so much narcissistic bullshit that I thought Stella had totally comprehensible reasons for hating his guts. That's before Vivz even just retconned it so she always just hated him literally for no reason, even though he was in the same awful forced marriage situation.

I think it would have been a more complex and intelligent plot design to have them have a falling out not because they were in a loveless royal marriage, but because Stella preferred propriety and keeping up appearances and Stolas was a flamboyant imp-fucker and was embarrassing her.

In my initial view, her problem wasn't that he was fucking other people, even peasants like imps, but that he was making a mockery of her and her social position instead of keeping it on the down-low, you know, like actual royalty did back in the day.

That would require a little complexity, though, and there's nothing like a little complexity to get in the way of a fujoshit schlicking to her delectable gayboys.
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I do find it funny that the more Viv tries to get us to hate Stella, the more sympathetic she becomes. She has no status or power to her own name; it all comes from the men in her life. Even her own daughter has got more worth than she does.

There was actually a point in time when I did also have sympathy for Stolas. Back in the first season, when I thought he was this ancient being that is over a millenia. The song he sung to Octavia when she was little made it sound that way, and that he knew he was going to die soon. So him getting into a fling with an imp makes sense, because he doesn't really care. He's already done it all. But then he slowly starts to see the consequences of his actions. How they not affect only him, but other people as well. As the end of the first season, you think he's going to start taking responsibility.

But then when season 2 comes out, it's actually none of his fault. Him cheating on Stella? Well, that's her fault for being such a big meanie to him in this arranged marriage that his father forced upon him. The deal he made with Blitzø for the grimoire? Well, that's because this is his "childhood friend" that he feel in love with at first sight. And Blitzø was the one to initiate sex first so, it's really his fault for leading Stolas on. Stolas not being there for his daughter? Well, I'm sure they'll find someone to blame that's not Stolas. Besides, Stolas has been such a good father up until recently. It's not like Octavia's entire is crumbling around her because of what Stolas did...

And even when he took responsibility for something he did in Mastermind, it was on something that he actually didn't do. It was all a big dumb lie that Andrealphus came up with, and Stolas just came in and said "Yep, that was all me. I'm the mastermind" even though that didn't make any sense. And everyone believed that because they're stupid and don't care.
 
AnOminous said:
I think it would have been a more complex and intelligent plot design to have them have a falling out not because they were in a loveless royal marriage, but because Stella preferred propriety and keeping up appearances and Stolas was a flamboyant imp-fucker and was embarrassing her.

In my initial view, her problem wasn't that he was fucking other people, even peasants like imps, but that he was making a mockery of her and her social position instead of keeping it on the down-low, you know, like actual royalty did back in the day.
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I believe there is a Voxtagram post that predated Murder Family (as it incorporated Stella's pilot design), that alluded to that proposed plot line. Stolas and Stella were out having tea, with Stella squeezing Stolas' hand while smiling, and Stolas' text was along the lines of "Having a lovely afternoon with my wife" despite appearing to have a disgruntled face. This gave off the impression that the conflict in their relationship is Stella wanting to keep up with her royal appearances, where as Stolas wanting a more lax lifestyle, doing his little fling with his imp, even if it means potentially jeapordizing their reputation.

Of course, that would require making Stolas more accountable with his actions, but we can't have that now, can we?
 
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