Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

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Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?

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Catboi said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=FQ2q0Q9frKE
Update from the Vegas con: Helluva is now also owned by Amazon and crossovers are coming thanks to the legal issues being sorted between the shows. Helluva will still be on youtube for free but will be streaming on Prime a month in advance alongside Hazbin.
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I'd like to see people twist this into somehow still believing Viv actually gives a shit about independent animation.
 
Gondolindrim said:
A Helluva Boss x Hazbin crossover feels super fucking redundant honestly. None of these characters will have anything of value to say to each other.
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Really the only interesting dynamics I can think of is Charlie or Lucifer interacting with the other Deadly Sins and maybe the Cherubs with the Heaven-related characters
 
InJailOutSoon said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=FQ2q0Q9frKE
So Helluva Boss is following a similar path to TADC by coming onto Prime while still letting Viv have full control of the show and still being on Youtube. I guess we now know where the extra money will be coming from.

Two things I took of note from the video; first there will be crossover episodes. I'm not entirely sure who will come onto which one, and how well that will work out. But I'm sure the fans will be happy nonetheless. What they might not be so happy about is that they will have to wait a full month for a Helluva Boss episode to be released on YouTube once it releases on Prime. Bet there will be a lot more pirating when this happens.
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Wait, so Amazon technically has involvement with Helluva? GLITCH/Gooseworx made it perfectly clear that all Netflix is doing with Digital Circus is having it available for their streaming service, but production wise, they air the episodes whenever GLITCH airs it on YouTube, and it's not in any meaningful way financing TADC.

Because if Amazon is funding Helluva and allowing crossovers with Hazbin, then that means they have licensing power over it. It's just that they don't have say over the episode count, runtime and season renewal... you know, the only creative control A24 supposedly had with Hazbin, since Viv wants to constantly claim that A24 pretty much approved any writing decisions she made.
 
I guarantee from now on every side character is gonna be some Broadway actor or at least the vast majority.

It will also be fucking hilarious if Ed Bosco got replaced because Viv's obsession with theatre kids again.
 
Gondolindrim said:
I am fully expecting Charlie to be submissive towards Blitz, or at the very least be "understanding" towards him once he starts going full cunt. He has some kind of energy field around him that removes everyone's spine.
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Would be funny if someone like Kassandra Cage (Johnny Cage & Sonya Blade's daughter) smashed his jaw like in her MKX fatality to make him stop talking, and then took a selfie with him, after splitting his head in two like a "V". He'd become a stoic thinker, then!
Smity Werbenjagermanjensen said:
I guarantee from now on every side character is gonna be some Broadway actor or at least the vast majority.

It will also be fucking hilarious if Ed Bosco got replaced because Viv's obsession with theatre kids again.
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At least he voiced a random UAC scientist, the Marauder and the Icon of Sin in Doom Eternal. He got his work cut out for him in the end.
 
Normally I would say that a megacorp buying out an indie animation project is a bad thing. However, no one in the entire history of creative writing has ever needed a stodgy corporate middle management tard wrangler more than Viv does.
 
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A part of me wants to say I saw it coming, considering how Helluva boss was just as popular if not more than Hazbin; at the same time I don't expect the quality to improve even with the backing of corpo. I expect S3 and beyond to be an absolute mess of gay melodrama; the original premise already died long ago and its corpse was dug up and shot again when Blitz refused to kill a faggot because it reminded him of "uwu gay owl".

Maybe the animation and production might be better, the scale of things and all that but thats being really 🌈, at the end of the day its going to be an absolute fucking mess, but it will at least be a shiny turd.
 
Lord of the Large Pants said:
Normally I would say that a megacorp buying out an indie animation project is a bad thing. However, no one in the entire history of creative writing has ever needed a stodgy corporate middle management tard wrangler more than Viv does.
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They didn't tard wrangle Viv on Hazbin, what makes you think they'd do so for Helluva?
Islamic Jihad Rocket said:
Maybe the animation and production might be better, the scale of things and all that but thats being really 🌈, at the end of the day its going to be an absolute fucking mess, but it will at least be a shiny turd.
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If anything, I expect the animation production to get cheapened and worse, just like it did when Hazbin went from indie pilot to Amazon - expect less background details, stiffer and less fluid action scenes, etc.
 
didelphigina said:
Because you can't expect consistency and logic—that even a non-fan of the show would probably piece together and wonder—from Vivziepop. You'd think there'd be some divide between the Hellborn and Sinners considering Sinners are powerful and immortal, while Hellborn, especially the imps, are peasants beyond peasants. But oh no, they couldn't cause of, whatever reason! But now they're able to. And that's gonna make the worldbuilding unrecoverable.

Completely unsalvagable cause now there's 200x more unanswered questions that will forever be tossed aside for, what I feel, will become low brow fan service rather than an actual understanding of how two entirely different shows will counteract with each other.
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Sinners being more powerful than hellborn sounds totally ass backwards anyway.

If it had been the other way around, the hotel would serve a double purpose of not only saving the sinners from the exterminations, but from hell itself, but you can't have that when your hell is basically a sodomite paradise I guess
 
GilaCutter said:
Sinners being more powerful than hellborn sounds totally ass backwards anyway.
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I could see it working in universe, given how it's basically a bastardized amalgamation of the story of creation and works related to it. It's been said that God intended for Humans to surpass even angels (hence the reason for Lucifer's jealousy), so with that in mind its easy to see how a human soul in the afterlife can be a truly powerful entity that surpasses both Hell and Heavenborn. It would also explain why Adam was so friggin powerful and why he was the leader of the Exorcists.
 
make_it_so said:
They didn't tard wrangle Viv on Hazbin, what makes you think they'd do so for Helluva?
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Hell look at other Amazon shows that have more retarded people running them like The Boys. Bezos gives zero fucks.

make_it_so said:
If anything, I expect the animation production to get cheapened and worse, just like it did when Hazbin went from indie pilot to Amazon - expect less background details, stiffer and less fluid action scenes, etc.
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I feel like it depends if Spindle Horse is still going to primarily animate Helluva Boss which seems likely as Hazbin's production is likely done all at once given the first season releases multiple episodes at a time while Helluva Boss has bigger gaps between episodes
 
Doctor of Autism said:
I feel like it depends if Spindle Horse is still going to primarily animate Helluva Boss which seems likely as Hazbin's production is likely done all at once given the first season releases multiple episodes at a time while Helluva Boss has bigger gaps between episodes
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Yeah, Spindlehorse is going to still be animating Helluva Boss, while Bento Box is animating Hazbin Hotel. It will be interesting to see how the characters will look in the other show they're not in.

I do wonder how the crossovers are going to work. I doubt that Helluva Boss characters are going to make that much of an impact on Hazbin Hotel since that show is a serialized story with a limited amount of episodes. At best I could see maybe HB characters in the background or making a cameo. Helluva Boss would probably work better with have a full on episode with the Hazbin Hotel cast since HB is supposedly more episodic in nature.
 
InJailOutSoon said:
Yeah, Spindlehorse is going to still be animating Helluva Boss, while Bento Box is animating Hazbin Hotel. It will be interesting to see how the characters will look in the other show they're not in.

I do wonder how the crossovers are going to work. I doubt that Helluva Boss characters are going to make that much of an impact on Hazbin Hotel since that show is a serialized story with a limited amount of episodes. At best I could see maybe HB characters in the background or making a cameo. Helluva Boss would probably work better with have a full on episode with the Hazbin Hotel cast since HB is supposedly more episodic in nature.
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I think the only Helluva Boss characters I can see be relevant to Hazbin Hotel are the Deadly Sins especially Satan given he keeps acting like he's in charge of Hell.

But I bet that will be done in the inevitable crossover episode that will be all about Stolas getting his powers back

I'm going to admit I enjoy the Hazbin cast more so the inevitable dickriding of the worst Helluva Boss characters makes me cringe like the feeling of knowing a natural disaster will hit but nothing can be done
 
GilaCutter said:
If it had been the other way around, the hotel would serve a double purpose of not only saving the sinners from the exterminations, but from hell itself, but you can't have that when your hell is basically a sodomite paradise I guess
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Isn't that the point, though? Having Hell essentially be paradise for Sinners has it so the conflict of their redemption comes from whether or not they want to change as it means giving up what makes them happy. But nah, the reason why Sinners are struggling with redemption is simply because of the evil supervillains' evil plans. This is going to be blatant in Season 2 since according to leaks, the Sinners are being hypnotizzzeeeed by Vox, and that's why Charlie can't redeem them.

That was the nuance in Angel's character. Val made Hell insufferable for him, which is why he came to the Hotel, but he is shown to be a degenerate outside of Val from self employed prostitution and partaking in turf wars as he enjoys those types of things. If I put a bullet in moth spic's head, what the hell is Angel's problem as a person? He seems like a slightly annoying, but otherwise decent guy, with Episode 6 showing that's he's now Mother Theresa, and the question on why he's not in Heaven, is because the angels don't know and won't question their bigoted leaders.
 
Strawberry Kiwi Propel said:
This is going to be blatant in Season 2 since according to leaks, the Sinners are being hypnotizzzeeeed by Vox, and that's why Charlie can't redeem them.
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Right, but if Vox only died and went to hell in the 1950's, then what the fuck was stopping Sinners from being redeemed before then? Was Alastor hard at work brainwashing motherfuckers over the airwaves? Did the weird-ass spider guy that speaks in Shakespearian English keep the Sinner brotha down, or what?
 
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