Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

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Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?

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To be honest the idea of redemption kinda falls flat when you take into account that like many people have said, are there for a reason, Child Rapists, Rapists, Mass Murders, Virgins With Rage that turned Mass Murderers... The list goes on and on, if one were to be redeemed, lets say... A Child Rapist, I- Saint Peter in this case would reject them. No one ever thinks about that, but they are willing to defend Val whenever a real Murderer is brought up alongside it.

Edit: My Friend did have an idea for Kids in Heaven that I would share. If anyone would like to hear.
 
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The redemption is limited to traveling to upper levels and to "heaven". Basically gates of heaven are ICE and unworthies get thrown back to hell.
There's no resurrection in this scenario.
 
Doctor of Autism said:
More merch

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Surprised they're dropping more when they still have valentines day stuff unsold. The veroskia daki and valentino stuff, and the mats and posters sold out in days and yet the "sexy spinning acrylic stripper figures" are still avaliable? I wonder if either vivzie and spindlehorse are overstocked because helluva/hazbin is losing its money printing potential, or if the "limited stock" claim is a lie ment to entice buyers. Especially since I think there's still some halloween merch left on clearance at the end pages of the sharkrobot store.
 
A Grey Cat said:
Surprised they're dropping more when they still have valentines day stuff unsold. The veroskia daki and valentino stuff, and the mats and posters sold out in days and yet the "sexy spinning acrylic stripper figures" are still avaliable? I wonder if either vivzie and spindlehorse are overstocked because helluva/hazbin is losing its money printing potential, or if the "limited stock" claim is a lie ment to entice buyers. Especially since I think there's still some halloween merch left on clearance at the end pages of the sharkrobot store.
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I think it's them losing fans/money. I've been buying merch for ages (yes I know I'm an edgy deviantart faggot) and the past two years it's been STEADILY decreasing how fast things sell out. If it's not a sale deal (ex. the 7 pins for the price of 2 or 3 for the price of 1 deals) or the sexyman of the week it stays on for months. I remember stuff used to sell out in a few days max.
 
Something that should confirm that 99.9% of Sinners are massive pieces of shit, even when they first wind up in Hell, is that over 6+ months of Charlie offering not just a chance at redemption but a free room and board (So even if you don't believe redemption into Heaven is possible you still have a reason to go), Charlie only managed to get two Sinners to stay at her Hotel, even if you add S2 it's only confirmed that the guest list adds only two more characters (Cherri and Baxter, and we don't know why Baxter shows up so who knows if he's actually interested in being a better person).

Now I get why, the cast is bloated enough already, but the total lack of no name background Hotel guests really makes Sinners like Angel and Pentious the exception rather than the rule.
 
Going back through the comments on Flazefire's Hazbin video and give me the show with this big twist.
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Smity Werbenjagermanjensen said:
Something that should confirm that 99.9% of Sinners are massive pieces of shit, even when they first wind up in Hell, is that over 6+ months of Charlie offering not just a chance at redemption but a free room and board (So even if you don't believe redemption into Heaven is possible you still have a reason to go), Charlie only managed to get two Sinners to stay at her Hotel, even if you add S2 it's only confirmed that the guest list adds only two more characters (Cherri and Baxter, and we don't know why Baxter shows up so who knows if he's actually interested in being a better person).

Now I get why, the cast is bloated enough already, but the total lack of no name background Hotel guests really makes Sinners like Angel and Pentious the exception rather than the rule.
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Logically, there would be more people than what we got coming to the hotel; either for protection, they're recent Sinners, or they're trying to get to their family or significant other that ended up in Heaven. And maybe they only stay there for a few days before leaving because redeeming oneself is hard and/or they given up hope on going to Heaven.

It's just strange how we don't see one Sinner who has just gotten into Hell try their chance at the Hotel. If anyone was going to take a whack at redemption, it would probably be the person that only has a day experience of Hell instead of the ones who have been there for decades and is used to life down here.
 
Saxxon said:
Like how about 66 dollars plus tax and shipping for a giant piece of cardboard with your favorite gay spider on it?
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Thanks Viv, but I can make my own harem of a hundred gay spiders, for roughly half a dollar per one gay spider.

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Edit: didn’t see that it was a life-sized standee… which is still a scam, because 72 inches is exactly 6 feet, while Angel is canonically 7 to 8 feet tall, depending on if you count his hair and whether he’s wearing heels.
 
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GoodWinSon said:
Not with those shipping charges.
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Local second hand marketplaces and thrift stores in decently populated towns sell plenty of usable twenty-dollar printers. I had to use something for the reference.
Vyse Inglebard said:
just because you can doesn't mean you should
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Thanks for the heads up, boss, but if I’ll do it anyway, I’m sending you a few.
 
Oh boy. So someone posted a list of highlights from some con where Viv, Sam, and a lot of the VAs were at a panel. Besides the many...many cringe responses, I do like how Viv basically said that she hates all her past friends but admits she wouldn't be where she was today without them.
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God, why do these grown adults who are either in their thirties or older act like fucking pre-teens? No wonder Keith David doesn't want to hang around these people.
 
InJailOutSoon said:
It's just strange how we don't see one Sinner who has just gotten into Hell try their chance at the Hotel. If anyone was going to take a whack at redemption, it would probably be the person that only has a day experience of Hell instead of the ones who have been there for decades and is used to life down here.
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Forget a day of experience in Hell, there's not one character who is confirmed to have died in the 21st century, Vaggie was originally going to have died in 2013, but with her being an exorcist now, unless I'm forgetting someone, the character newest to Hell is Cherri who died in the 1980s.

Not that what era a character is from even remotely matters in this show, the only character Viv even tried to make it matter is Zestial, and that's only just because he says thy and thou.
 
InJailOutSoon said:
Oh boy. So someone posted a list of highlights from some con where Viv, Sam, and a lot of the VAs were at a panel. Besides the many...many cringe responses, I do like how Viv basically said that she hates all her past friends but admits she wouldn't be where she was today without them.
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God, why do these grown adults who are either in their thirties or older act like fucking pre-teens? No wonder Keith David doesn't want to hang around these people.
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of course, the correct answer is the "joke answer".
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"I cannot say what I wanna say." Charlastor, Viv. You know it, I know it, we all know it. Stop being a coward.
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I just thought up of something fun: whenever someone crows about "REPRESENTASHUN" I'm going to advise them to never use that offensive R-word around me ever again.
 
Vyse Inglebard said:
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of course, the correct answer is the "joke answer".
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"I cannot say what I wanna say." Charlastor, Viv. You know it, I know it, we all know it. Stop being a coward.
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I just thought up of something fun: whenever someone crows about "REPRESENTASHUN" I'm going to advise them to never use that offensive R-word around me ever again.
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I am p sure Brandons might be Stolitz.
 
Doctor of Autism said:
I mean we discussed before in this thread that Brandon pushed it with Viv, it's just Brandon probably would've paced it better than Miss Wattpad
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That I can agree on. She always talks about slow burn but most of this isn't slowburn. It's only ever accepted in fanfiction because it's not expected to become canon. While you're making a show for Amazon pacing needs to be done. That goes for Hazbin but Helluva has no excuse.

Can anyone tell me or give me a proper example of a show or media that has good slowburn or pacing, doesn't have to be indie or canon. Hell it can be a fanfic for all I give a fuck.
 
SatansBoot said:
Can anyone tell me or give me a proper example of a show or media that has good slowburn or pacing
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Avatar: The Last Airbender. 3 meticulously plotted seasons, each with ever-heightening stakes, until the proper, satisfying conclusion. And then they had to shit all over it with Korra and the live-action bullshit (both the Shyamalan movie and the Netflix "remake")
 
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