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Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?

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Grumpy Pickle Rick said:
Meh, I never thought Alastor was all that impressive.

Did I think he was creepy as fuck? Absolutely?

Did I think he was super cool and powerful? Hell no!

Because even with all his power, Alastor was a big fish in an ocean of sharks.

Even with his all powers and contracts, Alastor is still just a sinner. He’s not a member of the seven deadly sin or the king of Hell.
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The one thing I miss from the pilot with Alastor is his more goofy nature. I think it kind of adds on to his more threatening nature when he doesn't take things seriously. One second, he's using his powers to destroy someone, only to immediately turn around and joyfully ask who wants jambalaya. That kind of charm is missing from his show counterpart, so he now comes more off as this tryhard edge-lord.
Doctor of Autism said:
The other Pilot VAs are either just as fine as the ones in the show or improvements (really just Husk and Vaggie)
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I kind of have to disagree with you there. I love Keith David, but I do kind of miss Mick Lauer's scratchy old man drunk version of Husk. And Monica Franco actually gives emotion to her performance with Vaggie, while Stephanie Beatriz most of the time sounds like she's half-assing her lines.

Granted the show's direction for these characters (as well as the other chatacters and the story) is different than the pilot's version I'll say. If the show followed the original pitch Bible, where the structure was more comedic in tone and episodic, than the pilot VAs would have worked much better than what we got.
 
InJailOutSoon said:
I have posted a comparison of the three different designs for Charlie her before but here it is again:

Pilot Charlie
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ADDICT Charlie:
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Show Charlie:
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As mentioned before the hair being tied is that it can be rigged easier like ReRunner mentioned, but this show isn't rigged. The hair being tied up is probably so when Charlie starts transforming into her demon form, there is noticeable dramatic to it where her hair comes undone and loose.

There's also the fact that usually lines with edges are much easier to animate and be more consistent than rounder lines. But besides that there is no other advantage I can see to the show's version compared to the other two. Especially when it comes to the show's hair bang. Just look at any shot with Charlie in the show and you'll see how no one knows what it's supposed to look like. Especially in her side views.

I think the Addict Charlie would have been fine for the show, but I've also seen a fan version of the show's one that was made to be easier for animators and it's not so bad either. Probably cause it looks similar to the Addict version as well.tumblr_a9292975a293a69f6a22054ae6f517a0_7b2a8c6c_1280.jpg
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I really love this re design of the character:
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Strangolapreti said:
The very first line could be interpreted as sexist, but in reality it has less to do with women being inferior and more with the fact that Adam ignored the words of his maker and listened someone that knew even less than him.
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It more or less boils down to the fact that Adam absolutely should've known better and had a responsibility to make sure Eve didn't do something stupid. Instead he was subservient to the desires of his wife AND acted in direct opposition to Gods command.

It's not a "heh women" thing, it's that Eve was literally only there because God understood that Adam would be lonely and start watching Ryan Gosling edits if he was left by himself, and as such it was up to Adam to be the fucking man and keep her on the straight and narrow once she was there. He didn't. That's why God was so much harsher towards him.

He didn't lead, he didn't protect, he didn't stop her. He followed, like a horny idiot.
 
gaysexenjoyer said:
Cute, but there's enough furries in this show as-is.
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She could be more goatlike, or rather have her human appearance be a mask that comes loose when she unleashes herself, the mask itself could he a nice reference to how the devil is portrayed in the stop motion movie "The adventures of Mark Twain", so she can be human and a demonic beast at the same time.

Similarly, Lucifer appearance is less a mask and more that he has 3 heads but can conceal 2, the 1st and more commonly use is the charming figure that was introduced in the show, representing his angelic origin, the 2nd is a snake, representing his role in the bible, who tempted Eve and Lilith and the 3rd form is a giant and grotesque humanoid demon. As a whole, its a reference to all common portrayals of the Devil, but the 3 head concept is also directly taken from la Divina Commedia, a book that Viv should have read.
 
InJailOutSoon said:
The one thing I miss from the pilot with Alastor is his more goofy nature. I think it kind of adds on to his more threatening nature when he doesn't take things seriously. One second, he's using his powers to destroy someone, only to immediately turn around and joyfully ask who wants jambalaya. That kind of charm is missing from his show counterpart, so he now comes more off as this tryhard edge-lord.
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I was thinking this too. Whichever uncredited discord user worked on writing the pilot should return asap. I don't think Alastor told a single joke in two seasons, or at least not anything as memorable as in the pilot. It's likely because Alastor is such a different character from the rest of the cast: his character demands him to be too charismatic and funny for the writers to be able to deliver. They can only write sex jokes and foul language, both of which aren't in character for Alastor.
Saxxon said:
Mr. pay-to-win and the Pre-order demon
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He literally is lolmao. Why is the fanbase so much funnier than the actual show? I could see Vox calling him something like that if Vox was written to actually be funny lol
Gondolindrim said:
Unbelievably massive self own
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That's kinda the problem isn't it? Episodes 3 and 4 made unnecessary tangents where Charlie embarrasses herself on TV and is taken out of context by people she knows get a kick out of hating on her. It did make her look irresponsible and way too naive to the point it's out of character. But it's added because Vivzieslop deals with annoying haters and at the end of the day, HH doesn't exist to tell a good story but to be her self indulgent fanfiction.
 
AI generated waifu said:
I was thinking this too. Whichever uncredited discord user worked on writing the pilot should return asap. I don't think Alastor told a single joke in two seasons, or at least not anything as memorable as in the pilot. It's likely because Alastor is such a different character from the rest of the cast: his character demands him to be too charismatic and funny for the writers to be able to deliver. They can only write sex jokes and foul language, both of which aren't in character for Alastor.
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You can thank KenDraws. They helped Viv with the structure for the pilot, came up with a lot of the visual gags and joke for Alastor, and seemed to have worked on the first draft for the script. It's also rumored that Dave Capdevielle (a writer from the pilot) had a different direction he wanted to take Alastor's character compared to Viv.
 
Mola Ram said:
I have seen no evidence that the people behind this show can read.
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"You are an illiterate and I cannot hire you"
Viv: "I will report you at HR for discriminating the Literacy-challenged and mysoginy! Also I have sexual fantasies of sitting in the cuck chair while 2 gay men fucks, which i bet its somewhere in the lgbt+ spectrum so i'm gonna report your qureephobia as well"
"Here's your blank check, miss, welcome to Amazon prime!"
 
Strangolapreti said:
"You are an illiterate and I cannot hire you"
Viv: "I will report you at HR for discriminating the Literacy-challenged and mysoginy! Also I have sexual fantasies of sitting in the cuck chair while 2 gay men fucks, which i bet its somewhere in the lgbt+ spectrum so i'm gonna report your qureephobia as well"
"Here's your blank check, miss, welcome to Amazon prime!"
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I don't know anything about Viv and I have only the vaguest sense of the fandom drama around her shows, but after watching this show and seeing Charlie is an obvious, obvious self-insert (after a few rounds of Ozempic) I am totally unsurprised to learn this is what she's like.
 
Niggerphobe said:
Do you guys they will delay the next season because the boy final season is coming out next year
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All this is missing is a "saar" at the end, jfc.

Also no, I doubt it. The Boys and HH have zero overlap and they're being produced by the same company. They aren't competitors, views are views and subscriptions are subscriptions.

Hell I think Hazbin is actually the more popular of the two at this point.
 
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