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man_made_of_meat said:
I remember Vivzie mentioning she was planning at least 6 to 8 seasons of Hazbin Hotel, if they keep speed running through all major points of conflict as a neverending escalation, what s left? What comes after heaven and hell being openly on the battlefield? When the shows keeps evolving at this speed, they will be done potentially in 4 seasons, I would estimate...
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She def said she wanted least 6 seasons for Hazbin. Most I can imagine her raising the stakes more than the every MCU movie.
 
man_made_of_meat said:
I remember Vivzie mentioning she was planning at least 6 to 8 seasons of Hazbin Hotel, if they keep speed running through all major points of conflict as a neverending escalation, what s left? What comes after heaven and hell being openly on the battlefield? When the shows keeps evolving at this speed, they will be done potentially in 4 seasons, I would estimate...
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The show has been renewed for 4 seasons, but Viv mentioned that she plans for 5 seasons not too long ago, take that as further evidence the second half of S1 was supposed to be S2.
 
Strawberry Kiwi Propel said:
All the more reason why the Exorcists whose names aren't Lute are plot devices that only exist to perform the Exterminations. It'd be nice to know what they're like the other 364 days of the year. If Vaggie's former look is any suggestion, the Exorcists all sported the same hairstyle, and if they still wear their battle gear sans helmet like Lute does, then how do they appear themselves to the rest of Heaven?

Not asking for much, just a little more meat to their bare bone existence. Another thing regarding Lute's audition lines is that there was a chain of command between the Exorcists as one of them had the rank of Major, and was threatened to be demoted. Final product and Lute's pretty much the only authoritative figure after Adam as Vaggie was merely referred to as one his "top girls". The trial scenes in S1E6 and S2E2 could have more weight on the Exorcists' duties in Heaven if more were present, but they're more than likely only going to appear when they getting ready to depart and enter Hell.
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Even with how shit the audition lines were, who would have thought they would have given these characters more character than the actual show.
Smity Werbenjagermanjensen said:
The show has been renewed for 4 seasons, but Viv mentioned that she plans for 5 seasons not too long ago, take that as further evidence the second half of S1 was supposed to be S2.
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I figure Lilith will be the the big thing in season 3 and then Roo for season 4, but what could there possibly be left for a season 5? Unless there is plans to have a season break of "big bads" and season 3 being filler. I know that Viv plans on delving into Angel Dust's family and background. Maybe will get the Von Eldrtich family and see what their deal is about. Maybe will have some Helluva Boss crossovers.
 
InJailOutSoon said:
I figure Lilith will be the the big thing in season 3 and then Roo for season 4, but what could there possibly be left for a season 5? Unless there is plans to have a season break of "big bads" and season 3 being filler. I know that Viv plans on delving into Angel Dust's family and background. Maybe will get the Von Eldrtich family and see what their deal is about. Maybe will have some Helluva Boss crossovers.
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I hope you are right, "Adam Mark II" would sound awesome, but no payoff.
 
Outer Space Traveller said:
I hope you are right, "Adam Mark II" would sound awesome, but no payoff.
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A "Sinner Adam" arc would be interesting and a good parallel to Pentious's redemption. It's also just really popular in the fandom itself. But I doubt Viv wants to make Adam a complex character and just keep him as a one-dimensional bad guy. And even if it was decided to write this arc, it would probably be rushed as hell and just not worth it.
 
InJailOutSoon said:
A "Sinner Adam" arc would be interesting and a good parallel to Pentious's redemption. It's also just really popular in the fandom itself. But I doubt Viv wants to make Adam a complex character and just keep him as a one-dimensional bad guy. And even if it was decided to write this arc, it would probably be rushed as hell and just not worth it.
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Alastroon would annoy the fuck out of him (even though he never heard "Hell is forever"). Perhaps he would be the only one to stand up (lol) to Niffty.
But yes, would be cool, seeing him back to heaven by the end of the series.
 
InJailOutSoon said:
I figure Lilith will be the the big thing in season 3 and then Roo for season 4, but what could there possibly be left for a season 5? Unless there is plans to have a season break of "big bads" and season 3 being filler. I know that Viv plans on delving into Angel Dust's family and background. Maybe will get the Von Eldrtich family and see what their deal is about. Maybe will have some Helluva Boss crossovers.
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Viv has talked about how S3 is the one she's most excited for, there's also the possibility that there will be a main villain who ends up being Lute. Personally though, S3 is probably Viv's most anticipated because most of it will likely end up being Angel/Husk.
 
Smity Werbenjagermanjensen said:
Viv has talked about how S3 is the one she's most excited for, there's also the possibility that there will be a main villain who ends up being Lute. Personally though, S3 is probably Viv's most anticipated because most of it will likely end up being Angel/Husk.
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Season 3 is also the reason why Hazbin got picked up by A24 in the first place.
 
Niggerphobe said:
how long could the helluva cast last against Michael
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Not very.

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It is kinda weird that Michael hasnt popped up yet. Like kinda weird we get Mettatron in S2, but not Michael. You'd think hed pop up and ask "Wait, who killed Adam? You sure it wasnt my brother?"
 
The tired cat said:
It is kinda weird that Michael hasnt popped up yet. Like kinda weird we get Mettatron in S2, but not Michael. You'd think hed pop up and ask "Wait, who killed Adam? You sure it wasnt my brother?"
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You expect the creators to know anything about the Bible or Angels, plus Michael is far to cool for either shows and would not tolerate any of it. You toss Michael into the plot when you just want to end everything.
 
This topic is likely been repeated a couple times in the thread but I do agree that its weird to base a show about Heaven and Hell, but not have the typical top characters in it. If there was nobody having the names of them or the show is based only in Hell, then you have a lot of leeway, but Lucifer and Heaven exists. So that means God exists. You can't have one or the other, unless Lucifer is in Heaven instead since that is before the downfall. Then Viv fucked herself off that too, because Peter existing, means Jesus exists. And Jesus existing means God exists.
And then you have the S1 villain be Adam. The other seasons wouldn't exist after his death because Heaven now has a big reason to annihilate Hell. Adam fits as the second-to-last or last season villain, not the first.
Its possible to have the big top characters be simply background or non-important characters that are interacted every once in a while, but when Adam met Lucifer and then is killed, all bets are off.

I'm know I'm screaming into the void since everyone can do their spin of biblical motifs but the hierarchy is already baked into it. Viv breaks it completely to think shes smart but nothing makes sense and nothing is consistent because its obvious she barely put any thoughts on it other than that.
 
Aib Ld said:
This topic is likely been repeated a couple times in the thread but I do agree that its weird to base a show about Heaven and Hell, but not have the typical top characters in it. If there was nobody having the names of them or the show is based only in Hell, then you have a lot of leeway, but Lucifer and Heaven exists. So that means God exists. You can't have one or the other, unless Lucifer is in Heaven instead since that is before the downfall. Then Viv fucked herself off that too, because Peter existing, means Jesus exists. And Jesus existing means God exists.
And then you have the S1 villain be Adam. The other seasons wouldn't exist after his death because Heaven now has a big reason to annihilate Hell. Adam fits as the second-to-last or last season villain, not the first.
Its possible to have the big top characters be simply background or non-important characters that are interacted every once in a while, but when Adam met Lucifer and then is killed, all bets are off.

I'm know I'm screaming into the void since everyone can do their spin of biblical motifs but the hierarchy is already baked into it. Viv breaks it completely to think shes smart but nothing makes sense and nothing is consistent because its obvious she barely put any thoughts on it other than that.
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I would rather read all of you guys essays about the topic, than overdose on copium about the outcome of this show. If there is something that I caught early on, is that KF collects within itself quite a number of people that know what they are talking about. This is the reason why I decided to join this conversation in the first place.

Tldr; thank you everybody, im glad i can dive in into such considerations, do not stop. 🌈
 
The tired cat said:
It is kinda weird that Michael hasnt popped up yet. Like kinda weird we get Mettatron in S2, but not Michael. You'd think hed pop up and ask "Wait, who killed Adam? You sure it wasnt my brother?"
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No one tell Vivzie there's an angel equivalent of Ars Goetia.
 
Aib Ld said:
This topic is likely been repeated a couple times in the thread but I do agree that its weird to base a show about Heaven and Hell, but not have the typical top characters in it. If there was nobody having the names of them or the show is based only in Hell, then you have a lot of leeway, but Lucifer and Heaven exists. So that means God exists. You can't have one or the other, unless Lucifer is in Heaven instead since that is before the downfall. Then Viv fucked herself off that too, because Peter existing, means Jesus exists. And Jesus existing means God exists.
And then you have the S1 villain be Adam. The other seasons wouldn't exist after his death because Heaven now has a big reason to annihilate Hell. Adam fits as the second-to-last or last season villain, not the first.
Its possible to have the big top characters be simply background or non-important characters that are interacted every once in a while, but when Adam met Lucifer and then is killed, all bets are off.

I'm know I'm screaming into the void since everyone can do their spin of biblical motifs but the hierarchy is already baked into it. Viv breaks it completely to think shes smart but nothing makes sense and nothing is consistent because its obvious she barely put any thoughts on it other than that.
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Sorry. Double-posting.

I understand your frustration. Heck, Vox even drops the word "gods" in the new trailer, so it's like... the concept of gods exists but do they not exist themselves in this universe of gay furries?

Vivzie is simply uses heaven and hell as backdrops to roleplay her OCs. You could change the names of heaven and hell, and not much would be affected. It'd probably improve, tbh.

The world of Hellaverse could be rich and much more compelling than what it is. Alas, fujoshis are famously reluctant to world build when their interests lie solely in drawing out shallow melodrama.
 
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