Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

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Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?

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I wish my friend had never introduced me to HH or HB. Obviously, when he introduced them to me, they were just the pilot episodes at the time, so he had no way of knowing how fucking awful it would get. I think I mentioned earlier in this thread just how heartbroken he was over HH being ruined.

Don’t get me wrong, the pilots were fine and I actually like some of the characters (especially Rosie and Mayberry because they remind me of two people I personally know and Stella for being sympathetic), but both shows got raped as hard as Sinfest.
 
Prophetic Spirit said:
Do i need to consider your opinion? Your reaction score is more negative than my hopes of life. Lol.
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The question you need to ask yourself is if you're not having lifeless ween faggots hate stalking your posts/comments to give them negative reacts then is your opinion worth listening to in the first place?
 
The Cringe Connoisseur said:
Woah you hate something that's popular? God damn you would have been a revolutionary thinker if this was the internet circa 1999.

Cringey losers who make hating popular things their entire personality are insufferable one note dumbasses who are incapable of saying anything interesting or intelligent, they're the ones who need to "get over it".
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I don't hate it. I just like making fun of it.
That being said, I apologize. As a true connoisseur of cringe I feel I've offended you for mocking a true piece of cringe art. I'm not gonna stop but I'm still sorry.
 
Christ, you know it's bad when even the biggest Spindle horse dick suckers like iox and ayylmao recognize the show has declined.

Also, glad that he acknowledged that the views have dropped as this whole show goes on.

Remember that in the few weeks of "Murder Family" it made about several ten million views in less than a week (about 50-70 billion if I remember correctly. Checking the Wayback Machine it made more than 10 Million on its premiere. Compare that to the recent "Apology Tour" episode, which took about a month to make 10 Million views. You could just say it's because it's not the hottest trend anymore so YouTube ain't promoting it as much anymore, but it's more likely that viewers have just gotten tired of the gay bird sailor swear opera pumping out more repetitive shit than a Disneyland ride jingle so they checked out because they know that this episodes' plots are gonna be the same thing over and over again.

By Season 3, the show will probably struggle to even make episodes reaching 10 Million views. By Season 4, episodes won't crack more than 5 Million if they're lucky.
 
perry 23 tack said:
By Season 3, the show will probably struggle to even make episodes reaching 10 Million views. By Season 4, episodes won't crack more than 5 Million if they're lucky.
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Vivziepop has to be dense.
How is that woman still ignoring all flaws and pushing her shit through without thinking that people will lose interest if your show has no substance. We have 2 shows constantly in our faces one that was made to keep fans afloat to not leave hazbin hype and what now? It's clearly dragging itself in the mud with whatever is left of it and it clearly shows helluva couldn't have been drama but no she has to make it so she can make one good moment that works isolated.
I believe viv switched the premise because she can't make comedy. If someone pointed gun at her she couldn't do 5 funny gags to save her life. She has massive ego and argues on twitter so imagine her trying to make comedy show primarily, she'd get bombarded with more trash about bad humor faster than now as it's main focus and she being egotistical bitch would throw sissy fit arguing with random nobody's to prove she's right.
 
perry 23 tack said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=kMJuVZv0D5kChrist, you know it's bad when even the biggest Spindle horse dick suckers like iox and ayylmao recognize the show has declined.

Also, glad that he acknowledged that the views have dropped as this whole show goes on.

Remember that in the few weeks of "Murder Family" it made about several ten million views in less than a week (about 50-70 billion if I remember correctly. Checking the Wayback Machine it made more than 10 Million on its premiere. Compare that to the recent "Apology Tour" episode, which took about a month to make 10 Million views. You could just say it's because it's not the hottest trend anymore so YouTube ain't promoting it as much anymore, but it's more likely that viewers have just gotten tired of the gay bird sailor swear opera pumping out more repetitive shit than a Disneyland ride jingle so they checked out because they know that this episodes' plots are gonna be the same thing over and over again.

By Season 3, the show will probably struggle to even make episodes reaching 10 Million views. By Season 4, episodes won't crack more than 5 Million if they're lucky.
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OK correction. The episode that took a month to gain 10 Million was "The Full Moon" not "Apology Tour" as the latter has only been out for about a week. But my point stands, 10/11 Million views after 1 month when your videos used to make about twice that numbers in a day? That's just a blatant decline in interest.
 
The funniest part about the "oh people will lose interest if it stuck to assassinations and will be repetetive argument" is that there are plenty of shows that are formulaic that are still beloved like Scooby Doo and Tom & Jerry which have stuck with people for generations and recently with Smiling Friends.
 
Guys, I have the funniest but also saddest speculation that might be unlikely cause Sam Hack already said there will be more songs for the next season but, imagine if Season 2 of Hazbin will be so fucking lazy that all they're gonna do is just reuse the same songs from the first season but just have other characters sing them and change the lyrics a bit.

Think the fucking MilkyyMelodies rewrites but they unironically use those as the soundtrack. I think even the fans would call them out if they did this.
 
perry 23 tack said:
Guys, I have the funniest but also saddest speculation that might be unlikely cause Sam Hack already said there will be more songs for the next season but, imagine if Season 2 of Hazbin will be so fucking lazy that all they're gonna do is just reuse the same songs from the first season but just have other characters sing them and change the lyrics a bit.

Think the fucking MilkyyMelodies rewrites but they unironically use those as the soundtrack. I think even the fans would call them out if they did this.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=DDDUU6rsOgUhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=73x8V1LrEwIhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=Dyc_BxnzZIU
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Wait, Lilith finally has a voice actress now? I thought all she did was appear as a concept so far.
 
HH and HB characters in a nutshell:


didelphigina said:
Yeah, I should've expected. I was half tired when seeing that post so I was a bit autism to not see what the post actually meant.
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Don't blame yourself. I also thought the comic was meant as a jab at the current year's identity stuff, until you specified in your previous post what the author's true intent was. I guess people who aren't terminally online don't have to do mental gymnastics on a day-to-day basis and view the world in a plain and simple fashion.

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SpindleHorse, Vivienne's company that animates HB, announced today that they're shortstaffed and are hiring new clean-up animators. Seems like Vivzie is losing animators left and right. It's as if the people working there know that the show is going downhill and they're jumping ship.
 
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Doctor of Autism said:
The funniest part about the "oh people will lose interest if it stuck to assassinations and will be repetetive argument" is that there are plenty of shows that are formulaic that are still beloved like Scooby Doo and Tom & Jerry which have stuck with people for generations and recently with Smiling Friends.
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It's not like you can't be formulaic without being soft-episodic either. Scooby doo mystery INC has a mystery per episode AND a long term narrative AND relationship drama but it ties all those things together, to questionable results maybe but it tries.

Helluva (and hazbin) cant even tie the main plotpoint with characters and themes. Wether blitzo does his job or not doesnt matter because no one in hell actually cares. In fact, i dont even know why the fuck Blitzo chose to become a Hitman which feels really weird in hindsight.

Imagine a Scooby Doo episode where there is no mystery, 4/5 of the main cast don't appear and instead it's 100% Scooby hanging out with his gay and traumatized childhood friend. That's Helluva boss unironically.

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SpindleHorse, Vivienne's company that animates HB, announced today that they're shortstaffed and are hiring new clean-up animators. Seems like Vivzie is losing animators left and right. It's as if the people working there know that the show is going downhill and they're jumping ship.
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Considering full moon was finished less than 24 hours before release (or was it the last episode), its sounding like some other Helluva boss episodes are unfinished and we might get delays...
 
I’ll give Hazbin this, while it’s premise can lend itself to a episodic series, it never at any point marketed itself or had episodes that made you think it would be episodic compared to Helluva Boss which had a pilot and 6 episodes that were really episodic until Ozzie’s.

It still also had its main plot at least connect with the idea of the whole idea of trying to stop the extermination.

Though I think that’s more on the nature of being an 8 episode season on Amazon where Vivzie can’t take most of the focus away to focus on Angel and Husk having romantic drama and then having an episode be all about a character not even in the core cast.
 
Hammersmith said:
Seems like Vivzie is losing animators left and right. It's as if the people working there know that the show is going downhill and they're jumping ship.
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Or more like Vivz herself is a Helluva Boss and pays peanuts.
 
LucasSomething said:
Imagine a Scooby Doo episode where there is no mystery, 4/5 of the main cast don't appear and instead it's 100% Scooby hanging out with his gay and traumatized childhood friend.
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Hammersmith said:
SpindleHorse, Vivienne's company that animates HB, announced today that they're shortstaffed and are hiring new clean-up animators. Seems like Vivzie is losing animators left and right. It's as if the people working there know that the show is going downhill and they're jumping ship.
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AnOminous said:
Or more like Vivz herself is a Helluva Boss and pays peanuts.
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Reminder that the NDAs over working conditions on the show expire this month.
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Found this video recently and has become one of my favorite examples of Viv/Hazbin antis being just as if not more lolcow than the stans.
 
perry 23 tack said:
Found this video recently and has become one of my favorite examples of Viv/Hazbin antis being just as if not more lolcow than the stans.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ilrfI44iwBc
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This man is unhinged and a self proclaimed sonic fan but he raises a few good points.

1-The finale doesnt actually have a sense of finality and it makes no sense to tease the Vees. He thinks this was a midseason finale but amazon wanted 2 seasons. He doesnt know season 2 will be about Vees (normies probably dont read the leaks).

2-Pentius never actually got his own episode or even his own plot, he just kissed cherri and died and we're supposed to feel bad. Cherri also suddendly hugging charlie when she's first presented as a bad influence who doesnt care about the hotel.

3-There is no "character arc", there is only conflict -> resolution. Charlie and Vaggie conflict wasnt solved between them, it was break up into reconciliation. Lucifer changes his mind in the middle of a song. Charlie forgives Pentious and he is nice to Alastor now. There is no inbetween or progression.

4-Angel's episode is the ONLY EPISODE with an A plot and no B plot thus the only actually effective episode. It's about angel from start to finish, when no other episode is like this. Vaggie's episode isnt hers because she has to share with exterminator reveal to overlord plot.

Overall ok rant but it's not even that spergy, 4/10. I liked the part where he literally leaves the room for like 20 seconds and then comes back and thinks in silence for more 10 with no explanation. Like, its just so silly it got me chuckling.
 
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