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💰 Grifter Hasan Piker / HasanAbi - Young Turk, Twitch Streamer, Stunlocked Brogressive, Cenk's Nephew, only a socialist for the money, abuses his dog by shocking it, Rutgers sex pest
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Also Hasan's argument can be applied to so many countries. He is Turkish, Turkey did not ban Slavery until 1925 so by his logic everything everyone did to Turkey before 1925 was justified.
The Aztecs were very barbaric and a lot like he claims Tibet was. By his logic the Spanish conquering them was justified.
By his logic France conquering Algeria was justified.
Did a little bit of digging where his revenue comes from and what is public.
Revenue overview:
Legend: Accurate, educated guess, wild guess
Estimated revenue per Year with his current metrics:
$4.5 Million
Contract:
He has a non standard contract with Twitch. He is paid to create exlcusive shows for Twitch like Debatelords. I am not sure if he actually got paid or just got a budget I will just assume he doesn't get cash on top from his contract. But according to this he has a 75/25 split with Twitch for his subscriptions the best standard program for partners offers a 70/30 split. And I heard speculations that he also get a bigger cut from the ads than the default 55%. Somehow Twitch got him after his last contract to play more ads. In the past he did play 60s every hour which he was contractually obligated to do. I would assume the only way they got him to play more ads was with more money. But overall I don't think Twitch is paying cash on top for exclusive custom big streamer contracts.
Yearly revenue from Contract: $0
Subscribers:
Without knowing the composition of his viewer base this is a little hard to guess, because subs can vary from 50cent to $10 depending on the regional pricing. Twitch will take only 25% of his subscriber money, thanks to his contract. He averages about 55k Subscriber. At the moment a little more because of the 2024 election. I assume the average he will get from a sub should be around $3
Yearly revenue from Subscribers:
$2M
Ads:
On default Twitch pays between $1 and $10 CPM depending on the audience and time of the year. Hasan will probably get slightly more because of his contract but not a lot. I will assume he'll get $3.50. He runs about 6 ads per hour. He streams about 200h a month to an average of 30K concurrent viewers.
Yearly revenue from Subscribers:
$1.5M
Bounties, Drops etc.:
Twitch has a couple of incentive programs where you can make big money for little effort (i.e. watching a specific trailer on stream). I have watched not enough Hasan content to know if he participates in these programs. I haven't seen him doing them. I will assume he doesn't do them for this analysis.
Yearly revenue from Twitch incentive programs: $0
He has a non standard contract with Twitch. He is paid to create exlcusive shows for Twitch like Debatelords. I am not sure if he actually got paid or just got a budget I will just assume he doesn't get cash on top from his contract. But according to this he has a 75/25 split with Twitch for his subscriptions the best standard program for partners offers a 70/30 split. And I heard speculations that he also get a bigger cut from the ads than the default 55%. Somehow Twitch got him after his last contract to play more ads. In the past he did play 60s every hour which he was contractually obligated to do. I would assume the only way they got him to play more ads was with more money. But overall I don't think Twitch is paying cash on top for exclusive custom big streamer contracts.
Yearly revenue from Contract: $0
Subscribers:
Without knowing the composition of his viewer base this is a little hard to guess, because subs can vary from 50cent to $10 depending on the regional pricing. Twitch will take only 25% of his subscriber money, thanks to his contract. He averages about 55k Subscriber. At the moment a little more because of the 2024 election. I assume the average he will get from a sub should be around $3
Yearly revenue from Subscribers:
$2M
Ads:
On default Twitch pays between $1 and $10 CPM depending on the audience and time of the year. Hasan will probably get slightly more because of his contract but not a lot. I will assume he'll get $3.50. He runs about 6 ads per hour. He streams about 200h a month to an average of 30K concurrent viewers.
Yearly revenue from Subscribers:
$1.5M
Bounties, Drops etc.:
Twitch has a couple of incentive programs where you can make big money for little effort (i.e. watching a specific trailer on stream). I have watched not enough Hasan content to know if he participates in these programs. I haven't seen him doing them. I will assume he doesn't do them for this analysis.
Yearly revenue from Twitch incentive programs: $0
Adsense:
He did start late. In the beginning he let all his fan channel take his stream content and make Youtube content, because he was too lazy to do it himself. He eventually hired an editor he exploited and didn't pay in the true socialist kind of way.
Today he has three or four Youtube channels depending on how you count the FearAndPodcast channel. I haven't watched a lot but his videos seem to be edited well enough to almost all get monetized. Most of his videos seem to be long videos 20min+ . I assume his audience is mostly american because he does primarily US politics. Taking all this into account I will assume $4 RPM (revenue per mille) which is pretty high but should be apropriate for his audience and expected average watch duration. For shorts I will assume $0.15 they will barely relevant for this anyway. FearAnd Podcast is considered 1/4 for Hasan because as far as I know they have a equal split between all 4 owners.
Yearly revenue by Youtube ads:
$603K
He did start late. In the beginning he let all his fan channel take his stream content and make Youtube content, because he was too lazy to do it himself. He eventually hired an editor he exploited and didn't pay in the true socialist kind of way.
Today he has three or four Youtube channels depending on how you count the FearAndPodcast channel. I haven't watched a lot but his videos seem to be edited well enough to almost all get monetized. Most of his videos seem to be long videos 20min+ . I assume his audience is mostly american because he does primarily US politics. Taking all this into account I will assume $4 RPM (revenue per mille) which is pretty high but should be apropriate for his audience and expected average watch duration. For shorts I will assume $0.15 they will barely relevant for this anyway. FearAnd Podcast is considered 1/4 for Hasan because as far as I know they have a equal split between all 4 owners.
| Channel | Views long per Year | Views short per Year | Ad revenue per Year |
| Hasanabi | 137M | 16M | $550K |
| Hasan | 7.2M | 1.4M | $29K |
| Hasanabi Gaming | 1M | 0.3M | $4K |
| FearAndPodcast | 20M | - | $20K (1/4) |
Yearly revenue by Youtube ads:
$603K
Merch:
I have no idea how much he makes with his merch. He will make some revenue otherwise his shop wouldn't have this many items. But merch is complicated the margin is probably only about 25-30% after production, logistics and VAT. And he has stated in the past, that some of his merch earnings is getting donated. The revenue is more a earnings in this case and a more or less blind guess.
Yearly revenue by Merch:
$100K
I have no idea how much he makes with his merch. He will make some revenue otherwise his shop wouldn't have this many items. But merch is complicated the margin is probably only about 25-30% after production, logistics and VAT. And he has stated in the past, that some of his merch earnings is getting donated. The revenue is more a earnings in this case and a more or less blind guess.
Yearly revenue by Merch:
$100K
FearAndPodcast:
FearAnd is a Podcast with Hasan, Will Neff, Qtcinderella and AustinShow. Supposedly the Patreon is split in equal parts. Which will give him 1/4 of this Patreon. The Patreon currently has 17.935 paying members and makes $88K per month.
Yearly revenue by FearAndPodcast Patreon:
$264K
FearAnd is a Podcast with Hasan, Will Neff, Qtcinderella and AustinShow. Supposedly the Patreon is split in equal parts. Which will give him 1/4 of this Patreon. The Patreon currently has 17.935 paying members and makes $88K per month.
Yearly revenue by FearAndPodcast Patreon:
$264K
Facebook/Instagram:
He seems to have given up on Facebook completely he won't make money there. His Instagram has good engagement for a guy. But even if he has it monetized he doesn't post enough to make significant money on there.
Yearly Revenue from Facebook/Instagram:
$12K
Appearances and Speeches:
Most of themwon't pay anything beside Travel, food and Shelter. Shows like Piers Morgan's won't pay him at all. He might get $10K for speeches at places like colleges. Not sure how often he does it, or if he gets paid. I'm not familiar enough so I will guess low here assuming he is too lazy to do a lot of this.
Yearly Revenue from Appearances and Speeches:
$20K
Sponsors:
As far as I know he brags about having no sponsors and thus can't be corrupted. The truth is it will be almost impossible for him to get sponsors and not get canceled. Even the more alternative sponsors like ground news will probably drop him with the first email campaign sending clips of shit he's said.
Yearly income from sponsors: $0
Others:
He might make some money from spotify, apple podcast, tiktok, twitter. I will blind guess this, because it won't be enough to really matter in his overall revenue.
Yearly revenue from other sources:
$30K
He seems to have given up on Facebook completely he won't make money there. His Instagram has good engagement for a guy. But even if he has it monetized he doesn't post enough to make significant money on there.
Yearly Revenue from Facebook/Instagram:
$12K
Appearances and Speeches:
Most of themwon't pay anything beside Travel, food and Shelter. Shows like Piers Morgan's won't pay him at all. He might get $10K for speeches at places like colleges. Not sure how often he does it, or if he gets paid. I'm not familiar enough so I will guess low here assuming he is too lazy to do a lot of this.
Yearly Revenue from Appearances and Speeches:
$20K
Sponsors:
As far as I know he brags about having no sponsors and thus can't be corrupted. The truth is it will be almost impossible for him to get sponsors and not get canceled. Even the more alternative sponsors like ground news will probably drop him with the first email campaign sending clips of shit he's said.
Yearly income from sponsors: $0
Others:
He might make some money from spotify, apple podcast, tiktok, twitter. I will blind guess this, because it won't be enough to really matter in his overall revenue.
Yearly revenue from other sources:
$30K
Revenue overview:
Legend: Accurate, educated guess, wild guess
| Twitch | $3.5M |
| Youtube | $603K |
| Merch | $100K |
| Patreon | $264K |
| Other Revenue Streams | $62K |
Estimated revenue per Year with his current metrics:
$4.5 Million
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Hassan has the right politics and makes Twitch money that’s why he isn’t banned. Twitch is own and run by leftists he is a leftist. It’s very simple.
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hasan piker would be one of hitlers strongest propagandists if he was alive during the 40.
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The Fuck's Going On Here
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While I think Twitch has Leftists in charge, I think the bigger issue is Hasan is simply just that much profitable to them. Based off of Radon's post, assuming he's getting $3.5 million off the platform, I can very well imagine he's generating a pretty good chunk of money for them as well. If tomorrow, he leaves Twitch for some reason, that's a significant bit of profit leaving their pocket which I doubt they'll want (Significant in the sense of it'll make the people on top raise their heads; not in the sense of it will really hurt the company THAT much). I figure that's why they're being lenient as hell with him, even after repeated violations and other bullshit he's done.
The day he no longer raises so much money for Twitch, the day the money he's bringing in is less than a few hundred thousand or something, I am 100% sure Twitch will boot his ass out the moment he crosses their lines, or angers a more popular streamer or something. But till then, they're gonna go kid-gloves on him, if at all.
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I don't know. Twitch is simultaneously such a large company ($666 million a year) while not being profitable. I doubt that the $1.5 million a year they're making off of Hasan counts for that much, especially since a lot of those viewers would just move on to someone else on their platform if Hasan was banned, I doubt they'd lose even a million a year from Hasan directly... I think they're more afraid of Hasan's fans. For sure they'd make big problems for the platform and harass whichever streamers stayed on the platform, we know that the editor of Kotaku is one of them.
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It's probably not much in the grand scheme of things, but he is inexplicably one of their biggest draws, and there's really no reason to needlessly give him the boot. Twitch didn't create their TOS as a moral crusade or anything like that. And I don't think they ever thought it was a particularly political platform. It took awhile for them to really adapt to all the non-gaming content that ended up getting streamed on there.
Like most companies, they more or less take a stand on things when customers are upset. Online communities just tend to get upset with right wing content more than lefty stuff, so they presumably respond to more reports about that. Even then, I don't think they'd issue lifelong bans or anything, I think a lot of content creators just see the writing is on the wall if they get a temporary ban and decide it isn't worth it and end up going someplace else, where they don't have to worry about suddenly losing their platform. I don't think that's what Twitch is aiming for, in their world, they'd rather get the PR credit, then wait a few days for things to die down, then go on passively collecting revenue when the person comes back. I mean, it happened with Hasan himself when he was reported for hate speech, they slapped him on the wrist with a temporary ban, then by the end of the month were back to collecting all his sub revenue. Heck, they probably got a decent bump when he returned due to an increase in people subbing/sending bits or whatever to celebrate Hasan's return.
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Great research, but I think you left out a massive source of revenue for him; a Twitch deal. Check out the eye-watering numbers in this article from last year.
“For context, Nick revealed that his Twitch deal was "life-changing" and was the biggest of all time after topping Ninja's $30 million Mixer deal.”
“Although an exact figure wasn't disclosed during the conversation, Adin's agreement is rumored to be worth up to $150 million, according to several reports. Nonetheless, this amount hasn't been officially verified as of yet.”
If Kick is doing it you can guarantee Twitch is, otherwise he’d be streaming on Kick. I couldn’t find any specifics about any deal Hasan has but I’d be shocked if he didn’t have something in the 10’s of millions with Twitch.
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So Hasan and suspended were trending together on twitter and I thought for a second Hasan got suspended lol
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hassan could literally murder school children and he still wouldnt get suspended.
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I know right
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It baffles me how much of a grip he has around that entire company
Twitch doesn't have Cash on top contracts anymore as far as I know Hasan even mentioned it. He gets a better sub and maybe ad split than other partnered streamers but that's it. Twitch gets pressured at the moment to get profitable by Amazon. They did let go 400 in 2023 and 500 in 2024. To my knowledge all big platforms have stopped giving big cash incentive contracts. Facebook stopped in 2021, Youtube stopped in 2022, Twitch stopped in 2023, Kick stopped with the introduction of KCIP (Kick Creator Incentive Program) at the beginning of 2024. The only platform that might pay big cash money to sign or keep streamer at the moment might be rumble.
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I'm going to guess that Roach's role isn't strictly monetary as much as it is social. He has a carefully crafted persona that management has groomed and provided with resources to thrive and conduct the most influential group in the platform (poggers) that doesn't necessarily provide the biggest donations or prestige through gameplay.
Roach and his ilk are simply social builders, they exist to facilitate what management wants and as an important asset in the pursuit of turning e-celebs into real celebs by organizing events and cuddling up with what remains of the traditional media. Roach isn't valuable because he is good at what he does but because he has been chosen to do what he does. Roach is allowed to exist and continue existing because he is an investment for Twitch. Like most things related to showbiz and the Interwebs today, the actual numbers are inflated so what Roach can actually do for this gamble is as tangible as NFTs are.
What Roach does is not unique, original or something only he can do. He is ageing but you can tell they want to turn him into their version of Phillip De Franco and that by virtue of waiting long enough they can cash on Twitch News.
Roach and his ilk are simply social builders, they exist to facilitate what management wants and as an important asset in the pursuit of turning e-celebs into real celebs by organizing events and cuddling up with what remains of the traditional media. Roach isn't valuable because he is good at what he does but because he has been chosen to do what he does. Roach is allowed to exist and continue existing because he is an investment for Twitch. Like most things related to showbiz and the Interwebs today, the actual numbers are inflated so what Roach can actually do for this gamble is as tangible as NFTs are.
What Roach does is not unique, original or something only he can do. He is ageing but you can tell they want to turn him into their version of Phillip De Franco and that by virtue of waiting long enough they can cash on Twitch News.
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So Twitch just banned everyone in Israel.
This is big, I know we joke that Hasan did this but let's be honest even Hasan doesn't have enough power to do that. I am not like morally outraged or even upset this happened but like how did this happen ?
As we all know Amazon has been crackling the whip to increase profitability, with the economic downturn and higher interest rates tech companies need to make money now more then ever.
Banning a country like this is already a business loss
However Israel specifically is Jewish, as we all know Jews are quite powerful. They are especially powerful in finance and as mentioned above Amazon and Twitch rely on low interest debt. So I think if that if one elite Jew like say Steve Schwarzman,BillAckerman or Larry fink were to Crack the whip Amazon would listen. I think Amazon's current CEO is Jewish to.
What could happen is Dan Clancy getting removed from CEO and it's speculated that Dan is the reason Hasan has gotten this far.
Also supposedly there is a campaign forming to attack Twitch's sponsors and for Jewish NGOs to condemn Hasan. I don't know how to feel about this. On one hand I usually hate these kind of campaigns and will not take part in or support this one.
On the other hand. Hasan supports this tactic. He supported Lucas during Drop Kiwi farms. Hasan does not care about the free speech of me or anyone on this forum so why should we care about his ? If he gets a taste of his own medicine then maybe leftist will stop using this tactic out of fear of reprisal.
I admit I don't know what to think and this delves into larger discussions on free speech and principles. I know Null talked about this on MATI one time but part of the reason why free Speech got less popular ( I think millennials were the first generation to have the majority not support free speech) is because there was no selfish incentive to support free speech. If you supported censorship then you had the advantage of deciding who should be censored, if you have a platform you could have people mass report pages of people you dislike and you know full well that the free speech supporters would always defend your right to do it.
Obviously I support free speech on principle and I am sure most people here do but the fact is most people don't think like us.
This is big, I know we joke that Hasan did this but let's be honest even Hasan doesn't have enough power to do that. I am not like morally outraged or even upset this happened but like how did this happen ?
As we all know Amazon has been crackling the whip to increase profitability, with the economic downturn and higher interest rates tech companies need to make money now more then ever.
Banning a country like this is already a business loss
However Israel specifically is Jewish, as we all know Jews are quite powerful. They are especially powerful in finance and as mentioned above Amazon and Twitch rely on low interest debt. So I think if that if one elite Jew like say Steve Schwarzman,BillAckerman or Larry fink were to Crack the whip Amazon would listen. I think Amazon's current CEO is Jewish to.
What could happen is Dan Clancy getting removed from CEO and it's speculated that Dan is the reason Hasan has gotten this far.
Also supposedly there is a campaign forming to attack Twitch's sponsors and for Jewish NGOs to condemn Hasan. I don't know how to feel about this. On one hand I usually hate these kind of campaigns and will not take part in or support this one.
On the other hand. Hasan supports this tactic. He supported Lucas during Drop Kiwi farms. Hasan does not care about the free speech of me or anyone on this forum so why should we care about his ? If he gets a taste of his own medicine then maybe leftist will stop using this tactic out of fear of reprisal.
I admit I don't know what to think and this delves into larger discussions on free speech and principles. I know Null talked about this on MATI one time but part of the reason why free Speech got less popular ( I think millennials were the first generation to have the majority not support free speech) is because there was no selfish incentive to support free speech. If you supported censorship then you had the advantage of deciding who should be censored, if you have a platform you could have people mass report pages of people you dislike and you know full well that the free speech supporters would always defend your right to do it.
Obviously I support free speech on principle and I am sure most people here do but the fact is most people don't think like us.
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whats going on?
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Twitch banned anyone in Israel from making new accounts. Apparently people who have accounts can keep them
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Definitely an interesting development but the main question is "why though"? Did anyone really expect Twitch to take a side in a conflict that has no direct effect on them?
Apologies for double-post but as soon as I said the word development, it implies progression from something and towards something. Unless we become privy to their thought process anytime soon, it just seems like taking a stand that nobody asked for.
Apologies for double-post but as soon as I said the word development, it implies progression from something and towards something. Unless we become privy to their thought process anytime soon, it just seems like taking a stand that nobody asked for.
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