Has search gotten worse?

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Is the quality of web search results getting worse?

  • Yes

    Votes: 1,238 94.6%
  • No

    Votes: 19 1.5%
  • IDK

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I looked up a Goebbels quote the other day and all I found were book reviews and articles on antisemitism. I don't want to dig through a whole book for a couple quotes. I just wanted to know if he said a specific thing but I guess I will never find out for sure. Thanks a lot, ADL assholes. Looks like I have no choice but to use Bing and "inspirational" quote sites!
Edit: His words about God are moving. If only he had become a theologian instead of an accessory to the butchery of Europe.
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Youtube's search is aggressively nonfunctional. You can be as specific as you want and it will still include irrelevant bullshit, even if you have something like the de-mainstreamify browser extension. Searching with google using site:youtube.com surprisingly yields much more useful results. Google is, at the end of the day, a search engine for ads and approved propaganda. You have to be nauseatingly specific in what you include and omit to get to anything that requires more than a cursory search and God forbid you try to find anything that may be controversial in the mind of a leftist redditor cuck such as anything that contradicts any aspect of pharma industry propaganda or globalist equity drivel. When the megacorps became infested with leftists and the leftist interest became what we now know as globohomo it was inevitable that the internet, especially search, would largely cease to be useful if you were looking to find neutral/factually correct information.
I literally put in the title of the video and the person who made it and get 30 things not remotely related to it
 
I literally put in the title of the video and the person who made it and get 30 things not remotely related to it
When youtube does this I just add the search modifier "before:2023" soon to be "before:2024" it tends to clean up results a bit. It removes the "suggested" videos from the search results and gives pure results. The results are still garbage compared to what it used to be, but less so.
 
This has been going on for a good while with Google. Before I had access to good academia paper sites, I would try researching obscure interests on Google using a particular set of key words that I thought would help narrow my search for content. Instead I would end up getting recommended pop-sci articles from major websites or blogs that would literally just plagiarize each other for pages on end. I’ve had it with searching up topics on Google, the pages I get recommended are poorly-researched garbage or just a copy-pasted from a half-baked article.
 
Google is, at the end of the day, a search engine for ads and approved propaganda.
Over in the coof thread, @BigO-in-Ohio said that even DuckDuckGo now "fact checks" search results.

I'm trying to look up stats of how many are victims of serious jab side effects, but all I get is "Fact Check" this and "Snopes" that and "Wikipedia" this and "CDC" that.

Even on DuckDuckGo.

edit: but I found this: Mortality - OpenVAERS (from this: Censored COVID Vaccine Victims Demand Answers In Private Facebook Group – Rights and Freedoms)
DDG implemented fact checking over a year ago. For your own good of course.
 
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Google got so bad that I switched to using Yandex both for Russian and English a few years ago.
If you want to try it out, I'd suggest altering the search engine string in your browser by adding &lang=en to the end of it. This will filter out the Russian results you probably don't care about. I have mine set up to default to standard Yandex, and then a copy under "yandex" in latin letters so I can easily search with the English-only filter if I want to.
 
Has anyone scored an invite to the new search engine Kagi?

The beta is free but they'll be charging $10/month when it goes live (which seems suicidal ngl)
They're also doing a macOS-only browser. Makes me think their exit plan is to get acquired by Apple.

It's now open reg with 50 free queries a month, and they claim the browser is coming to other major architectures.

I've only done one or two searches with it so far as I've been too busy to be as methodical about it as I'd like. The sample search results look promising and even a bit exciting -- I haven't seen blogs and similar organic-feeling content come back from a search in a long time. If anyone wants to test some searches compared with Google/DDG/etc. but doesn't want to register, let me know I guess
 
It's now open reg with 50 free queries a month, and they claim the browser is coming to other major architectures.

I've only done one or two searches with it so far as I've been too busy to be as methodical about it as I'd like. The sample search results look promising and even a bit exciting -- I haven't seen blogs and similar organic-feeling content come back from a search in a long time. If anyone wants to test some searches compared with Google/DDG/etc. but doesn't want to register, let me know I guess

You know what, what the hell, I'll offer some search queries for you. We'll start off simple wtih some requests, then some search queries to see what pops up. Don't have any scientific criteria or such methodology to construct any robust searches, but at least this might give something for the average layman to view.


(Find website/addon for browsing Youtube that filters anything before 2017/2011. There has to be some website or addon out there that allows you to filter any of that modern shit. God knows I have tried to look, but nothing pops up. No, the Before: XXXX doesn't fucking count, it still shows shit from the modern day.)

(Find hobbyist websites for video game archival projects.)


--Search Queries--
(Some of these are banal and/or obvious, but I want to place a search for them because current search engines are SEO'ed to hell and back with fluff pieces. Hopefully we'll get a few good results from this. They are also a banal mixture of other search fluff that I have made in the past several years to mixed results on the current stack of search engines, or just idle curiosity from years back. Again, mostly just throwing out stuff at random.)

Has the Internet become more homogenized? / Factors for YouTube's sanitation/sterilization of content. / History of YouTube content between 2006-2011 / List of popular YouTube content between 2009-2011

Economic theory for the present day.

AR15 / AK47 Firearm Review 2023

How to make your own aerosolized insecticide for ants and roaches

Barn Owl Population statistics for Texas 2011

Quora/deviantART/reddit frontend.

World Economic Forum conspiracy / World Economic Forum Great Reset

Layman's Nutritional Food Guide.

Wireless Car Vacuum Reviews 2023

History of American Black Ops

Why Eating bug is bad for you. / Why eating bugs is good for you.

Celtic/Scottish/German historical fiction.

History of the Celts and Scots.

List of art websites like deviantART

How to fix login loop for Ubuntu 18.04

History of Star Wars 2002

My Sanctuary AMV

Software for extracting entire forum threads.

COVID Vaccine Side Effects

And that's about it for now off the top of my head. I don't expect you to run off every banal search term here, but it might give us a better understanding for the capabilities of this search engine in comparison to what we have on offer today. I am not gonna hold my breath that it'll be any better than what we have now, but if it is, I might actually start using search engines again like I did for stuff that didn't need a damned quora answer or the like.

If I may make a suggestion, you might want to browse more of the thread here for search queries and the like to see what else pops up. Picking five from this pile would suffice, and contrast the search results for any five with DuckDuckGo, Yandex, Google, and Brave Search.

Below, I have posted one example for COVID Vaccine Side Effects for Brave and Google. As per usual, Google's search results are about what can be expected, and Brave isn't that much better. My hope is this new search engine that has been brought out will allow for more... Off the road sources to come to the top. It's doubtful, but if it does as advertised, it might have a limited future.

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For anyone else here, I'd suggest getting any other pozzed search results and see what comes up on the new engine.

As far as I can tell, there does not appear to be anything too nefarious about the company behind this search engine. That said, I have not done too deep of an investigation into it, and it'll take time to see what dirt pops up *if* this search engine gets popular. With the likes of ChatGPT and other similar AI tools popping up that may potentially supplant, if not outright replace search engines for most people going five years on, I doubt this engine has too much of a future. Still, it pays to observe to see how it develops.

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I decided to bite the bullet and see how the search engine actually fairs, and the results are promising indeed.
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While you have your usual pozzed results up front and center, there actually appears to be some dissenting articles on the first page. How remarkable. I'll have to test this engine a bit further to see what comes up, but if it can keep this up, it *might* actually have a future. I'll keep the other search queries up as a reference, and aif anything interesting pops up, I'll post an update.
 
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Is it me or did Google Nerf their search results during the super bowl
I'm trying to find that clip of Vinesauce Joel LOL'ing at that clip of that one guy droning about Rosalina's supposed eye powers. But all I get is "related" results, both on Google and YT. I was also trying to find an image of the surface of Mimas at sunrise in SpaceEngine, but all I got were NASA images and pics of Mimas from space in SE. It's like Google "can't find it" even if it's there, and instead serves up "related" resultes. I think Google definitely got more nerfed - as if they don't like learning.
 
I feel like it's going to have to be a combination of Google dorking to get anything relevant, Google would rather serve you bullshit ads that aren't relevant based on the keywords then give you anything meaningful. Boomers that refuse to learn the technology have no chance.
The nuclear option is always appending + "site:reddit.com" to the search but that can only be used in last minute tactical desperation. I feel as if this is far more deliberate then most people would think. If you flood the entirety of Google with pajeet SEO WordPress blogs with affiliate links and keyword spam that has nothing to do with your topic you'll force people to have to go to content arbiters like Plebbit where the information can be controlled and manipulated even further. I have been terminally online for all of my known existence and I never remember search being this bad. Especially when it comes to reverse image search. The only reliable reverse image search now is Yandex. Google has delibaretly destroyed their reverse image search function for god knows what reason. Likewise Tineye which was always reliable in the past no longer works.
 
I'm trying to find that clip of Vinesauce Joel LOL'ing at that clip of that one guy droning about Rosalina's supposed eye powers. But all I get is "related" results, both on Google and YT. I was also trying to find an image of the surface of Mimas at sunrise in SpaceEngine, but all I got were NASA images and pics of Mimas from space in SE. It's like Google "can't find it" even if it's there, and instead serves up "related" resultes. I think Google definitely got more nerfed - as if they don't like learning.
Well, I noticed during the super bowl any kind of search results to it directly took you to paid official results and any kind of illegal streams just didn't seem to show up
 
This has been going on for a good while with Google. Before I had access to good academia paper sites, I would try researching obscure interests on Google using a particular set of key words that I thought would help narrow my search for content. Instead I would end up getting recommended pop-sci articles from major websites or blogs that would literally just plagiarize each other for pages on end. I’ve had it with searching up topics on Google, the pages I get recommended are poorly-researched garbage or just a copy-pasted from a half-baked article.

The fundamental problem with large, complex, coupled systems, whether we are talking about anything from search engines to weather simulations, is that manual intervention at any point in the system will have surprising, uncontrollable side effects. These side effects are innumerable and unpredictable.

Google's artificial up-ranking of approved sources might not have affected people who just use Google as a frontend to Wikipedia and CNN.com, but it's ruined its effectiveness for people like you and me, who use web search to try to ferret out obscure technical references and the like. DDG used to be the best search, but its owner is a Jewish neolib who decided to fuck up his algorithm to "prevent COVID-19 misinformation from spreading" or some dumb bullshit like that.
 
Has anyone scored an invite to the new search engine Kagi?

The beta is free but they'll be charging $10/month when it goes live (which seems suicidal ngl)
They're also doing a macOS-only browser. Makes me think their exit plan is to get acquired by Apple.
It seems like some tech venture capitalists are recognizing this reopening niche in the market and are trying to barge in with subscription-based, purportedly better search engines. Just earlier this month I've heard of Neeva, which seems to be the same thing, only "AI-powered" (whatever that means).
 
I've heard of people attempting to use chatbot ais like chatgpt to search things for them but I find it an odd task since with the way they're made they cannot keep relearning things. Chatgpt only has data up to some point in 2021 and can't just access the internet for more info (plus most of the major free ais that are hosted only on someone else's server are censored to shit).
 
I was looking for some old memes, fairly popular at the time. And they just would not appear. Google especially, the image results hard stopped at like 20. End of results. So I know theres a backend lock happening. Bing gave a bit more leeway, but still, the specific memes would just not show up.

Typed the exact same queries into Yandex. They showed up on the first page.

Maybe you are wondering what I was looking for.

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I was looking for some old memes, fairly popular at the time. And they just would not appear. Google especially, the image results hard stopped at like 20. End of results. So I know theres a backend lock happening. Bing gave a bit more leeway, but still, the specific memes would just not show up.

Typed the exact same queries into Yandex. They showed up on the first page.

Maybe you are wondering what I was looking for.

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Google images is turbo cucked. I have better luck either coming here or trawling 4 chan or wikis if it isn't normie enough.
 
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