Ground bee removal - Advice sought - I need to genocide these fuckers asap

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Baguette Child

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Since my attempt to seek advice on this matter elsewhere on the internet was met with bleeding heart hippie bullshit about learning to live with nature, I am appealing to my fellow kiwis for help in removing a threat to my animals' quality of life.

My now 7+ acre property has been overrun by a massive quantity of ground bees. Like... way, way more than has ever been normal here. We're talking genuinely concerning quantities of ground bees. If the ((bees)) were simply annoying me I wouldn't give two shits but they are attacking my livestock and harassing my dogs for the better part of every day. They are omnipresent and aggressive and know no fear. My chickens are afraid to leave the coop and my goats are visibly nervous and uncomfortable. As their lord it falls on me to rid the land of this pestilence and restore peace to my fiefdom and its inhabitants.

I dealt with this four years ago; At that time their nest hole was outside my garage, so I simply poured petrol down it and lit a match before filling it in with concrete the next day. This time I am not so lucky as to have found their hive location right off the bat. I've tried getting up extra early to watch where they emerge from; Unfortunately the terrain has made this difficult. Most of my property is rocky hillside and forest. I can't clearly see much more than a vague direction of "somewhere downhill of the house."

TL;DR, I need quick tips for locating a ground bee nest in rocky uneven terrain, and if you have any other advice for combating this foe I would greatly appreciate it. My goats thank you for anything you can contribute.
 
Dump white vinegar and bleach down the hole when you find it. Do not mix anything other than pouring the chemicals directly into the hole. I can't stress this enough, DO NOT MIX THEM ANYWHERE ELSE OTHER THAN IN THE HIVE IN THE GROUND.

Don't loiter tho, but the gas is heavier than air, so it should stay in the hole.

Take that, Jewish ground bees!
 
Try using spinosad. I know since it's "organic" many assume it's weak shit, but I sprayed it in my yard to see if it would help with fleas. Not only did it help with that issue, I also noticed it also killed 3 fire ant mounds and those bastards are tough to kill. Also, there's literally a warning to not use spinosad if there's bees where you're spraying since it kills them.

Alternatively, this guy who keeps bees on youtube shows how to use water and dish soap to kill an aggressive hive.

 
BikeLock said:
Dump white vinegar and bleach down the hole when you find it. Do not mix anything other than pouring the chemicals directly into the hole. I can't stress this enough, DO NOT MIX THEM ANYWHERE ELSE OTHER THAN IN THE HIVE IN THE GROUND.

Don't loiter tho, but the gas is heavier than air, so it should stay in the hole.

Take that, Jewish ground bees!
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Dumping gas and setting it on fire not only seems better for the environment, but safer than your suggestion.
 
Dissolve Styrofoam in a bucket of gasoline until it turns into a nice, sticky sludge, (for some reason I recall someone suggesting mixing in some sort of anticoagulant too but just gas and styrofoam should work) dump it down the hole, then light it up. Redneck napalm.
 
Dish soap and water is extremely effective for bees and hornets. The way the pros do it is to have a shopvac with some soap+water in the vac and just suck them up from the hole, they hit the water and almost instantly die. Presumably you don't have a bee suit and the vacuum noise makes them extremely angry so you'll probably have better luck just mixing up a five gallon bucket and dumping it into the holes if you can find them. If you have a big funnel that will help, it helps you aim, obviously, but it also prevents them from escaping which if you're unprotected that's probably more important. The ratio isn't super important, a big bottle of soap should make a five gallon bucket, a jug of soap will make a bunch. Basically if it lathers up a good bit while you're mixing it you're good

Any volatile petrochem (gasoline, paint thinner, etc. Diesel/kerosene not so much, those will kill on contact but don't have the noxious fumes to kill the ones you miss) will work, the more it stinks the better it works, but that's obviously not ideal for farmland
Catgirl Tyranid said:
Dumping gas and setting it on fire not only seems better for the environment, but safer than your suggestion.
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Be very careful with gas and enclosed spaces when you aren't sure how big the cavern is. If there's too much air that hasn't been displaced by the volatiles it can literally detonate lol. Definitely at least use a gas-trail fuse, my dad and brother nearly blew themselves up one time trying to burn down a huge beaver dam with gasoline. It got into the living space inside, fumes collected but not so much as to displace all the oxygen, and sticks went flying in every direction, I heard it from inside the house about three hundred yards away with plenty of trees between us. Stoichiometry ain't nothin' to fuck with
 
BikeLock said:
Dump white vinegar and bleach down the hole when you find it. Do not mix anything other than pouring the chemicals directly into the hole. I can't stress this enough, DO NOT MIX THEM ANYWHERE ELSE OTHER THAN IN THE HIVE IN THE GROUND.

Don't loiter tho, but the gas is heavier than air, so it should stay in the hole.

Take that, Jewish ground bees!
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Catgirl Tyranid said:
Dumping gas and setting it on fire not only seems better for the environment, but safer than your suggestion.
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Dr. Ricearoni said:
Dissolve Styrofoam in a bucket of gasoline until it turns into a nice, sticky sludge, (for some reason I recall someone suggesting mixing in some sort of anticoagulant too but just gas and styrofoam should work) dump it down the hole, then light it up. Redneck napalm.
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All three, just to be safe.

Should probably repeat it the following weekend.
 
Instead of trying to get the jump on them in the morning, try watching them in the late afternoon or evening when they have collected pollen and are flying back to the nest. Probably easier to get a bead on where they are going than where they are coming from.
 
Once you find them, Sevin dust. Why screw around when the hardware store sells nerve agents?
Catgirl Tyranid said:
Alright, hear me out. Put out a dish of sugar water, big enough that you'll get a lot of bees coming to visit. Then follow the trail of bees back to their hives after they've had their fill.
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Or this, with Sevin on/around the dish once there's plenty of traffic if you can't find the entrance. Won't get them all, But probably most.
 
Tell @Bee Lord to withdraw his forces from your domain forthwith or face the wrath of your goat cavalry.

When I had ground bees, I called an exterminator. You can e-mail them and ask how it affects the cost if you don't know exactly where the holes are, if you're concerned about the hourly rates.
 
Catgirl Tyranid said:
Alright, hear me out. Put out a dish of sugar water, big enough that you'll get a lot of bees coming to visit. Then follow the trail of bees back to their hives after they've had their fill.
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That's actually not a bad plan. Will give this a try and report back tomorrow.


Also loving all the different suggestions here for the murder itself once I find the assholes, always fun to have multiple options.
 
Baguette Child said:
Also loving all the different suggestions here for the murder itself once I find the assholes, always fun to have multiple options.
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Please don't poison yourself with chlorine gas, but whatever you do, please consider taking pictures or a video for the thread's posterity.
 
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