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Found this thought-provoking indeed.
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Found this thought-provoking indeed.
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The #DefundTheBBC campaign just got stronger, and Jed Mercurio is laughing even harder knowing he can now get away with slagging the BBC off even harder on their own channel as the sole writer of quality left there.
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Starting to think that Peppa Pig's slowly losing her mind screeching at everyone about "muh climate change". Give it a few years, she'll have a mental breakdown over a burger.
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At least the mental health issues seem to be a consistent theme with all those young heroines. Also the emphasis on their youth and innocence. Honestly, Greta only works, because she looks twelve and is a sped. Nobody would have given a single fuck about the typical 15 year old sitting in front of the Swedish parliament, documentary crew or not.
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Obviously designed to either be a swansong to the fact they can't use the child excuse anymore, or a desperate attempt for cry for attention with slimy rapey help from the BBC.
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The first episode already aired, didn't it? Has anyone here seen it (I know I am asking for a lot)?
I have only watched the trailer, but Jesus tap dancing Christ are the adults sucking her dick. No wonder she thinks temper tantrums are a valid method to get one's point across.
Edit to add: I think it is the latter. The BBC doesn't want to loose their pet doomsday siren before she completely looses it. And Greta can say "muh privacy" all she wants, she is going to miss the attention and praise for nothing. Especially if she wants to get a degree and has to put in the same amount of work and actually show up.
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‘You need to laugh sometimes’
Greta Thunberg’s impassioned speeches have inspired young and old, including David Attenborough. So why does she think the climate crisis is so hilarious?
Interview by Rebecca Nicholson
IN GRETA THUNBERG’S BBC1 series, A Year to Change the World, there is a moment where it feels as though a baton is being passed: the first in-person meeting between the now 18-year-old environmental campaigner and Sir David Attenborough, 94. The veteran broadcaster tells the young Swedish activist that, while his generation has not done enough for the climate crisis, she has brought real hope, and real change. It is an emotional exchange. “It was,” says Thunberg, warmly. “He’s such a genuinely nice and down-to-earth person. Much more than you can imagine.”
Thunberg is at home in her family’s apartment in Stockholm. After a year of travelling the world, she is back at school, where she is studying social science. She has a piece of embroidery with her as she talks, and is sewing a pretty green border. She prefers to do something with her hands, she explains, or else she starts to fidget. Though Attenborough insists that she has “done such a lot” for the planet, she’s not so sure. “Of course, I don’t agree with that,” she says. She starts many of her sentences with “of course”. “I mean, compared to him, I have done nothing. He is a person who is loved by everyone, and he is using that platform to communicate these things that are very uncomfortable. And I’ve only done this together with the millions of others in the Fridays for Future movement, so it’s not something that I have accomplished, really.”The FFF movement began one day in August 2018. Thunberg, then 15, decided not to go to school, but to sit in front of the Swedish parliament building to protest against the government’s inaction on the climate crisis. Her protest not only went viral, it galvanised a new generation of activists and played a huge part in forcing governments to address the reality of environmental decline.
At 16, SHE BECAME Time’s youngest ever Person of the Year. She only turned 18 in January, but has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize three times. She’s spoken to and in front of many world leaders. Does she really believe she has done nothing?“I mean, it’s just the truth,” she says. “All I’ve done is to write and give speeches and to travel around, and it feels like anyone else could have done the same thing. It’s not that I’m unique in this sense. So that’s just how it is. And yes, I’ve won many prizes, and been nominated for prizes, but that doesn’t really mean anything. That’s not a sign of accomplishment. I don’t think you should measure success in the amount of awards you’ve been given or the amount of money you have made or the amount of followers you have on social media, but rather if you have actually succeeded in shifting the discourse or changing people’s mindsets.”
Her latest step towards accomplishing that goal sees Thunberg taking her persuasive skills to television and fronting A Year to Change the World. The past seven years have been the warmest on record, and the effect of rising temperatures on the planet is increasingly plain. We are seeing more natural disasters, more extreme weather, more food and water insecurity, and greater economic and political disruption. Oceans are acidifying, the Arctic is melting and, after a drop in the early stages of the pandemic, CO2 emissions are increasing. According to the International Energy Agency, global emissions were two percent higher in December 2020 than they were in December 2019. “You can’t fit the whole picture in just three hours,” says Thunberg, but the sense of urgency in the series is unmistakeable.
Before the pandemic took hold, Thunberg wanted to travel, to see some of the devastating effects of the climate crisis for herself and meet the people trying to find solutions. She got around by train, mostly, as she refuses to fly, and travelled to the US and back by boat. For the return leg, this meant crossing the Atlantic on a catamaran, in November, during severe storms. It did make her seasick, she admits, but only for a day.
She was supposed to take the Trans-Siberian railway to China, but the trip was cancelled as the pandemic spread. By the time she got back to Stockholm, she and her father Svante, who was travelling with her, both fell sick with what she believes was probably Covid. “It wasn’t that serious,” she says. “We got a bit ill. I wasn’t allowed to test myself because I was a minor at the time, but he did it and he had antibodies.” The pandemic has shown the world what it means to confront a crisis, she says, and that has made it clear that the climate crisis has never actually been treated as a crisis. “It shows that we can change social norms very quickly. If I were to go up to someone and shake their hand today, that would be completely socially unacceptable. But if I would have done it a bit over a year ago, that would have been the normal thing to do. So it really shows how these kinds of things can change, which is very hopeful.”
When Thunberg was younger, she wanted to be a scientist working in a lab, but now she believes she is more useful as a political activist. After her school strike became famous and her tactics adopted by children around the world, Thunberg went on to make powerful speeches to the UN and at the World Economic Forum at Davos in Switzerland. But the paradox of her new and vast fame meant that sometimes, the science she wanted to spotlight would be underreported in favour of a photograph, for example, of her glaring at Donald Trump.
Was this series a way to put the science, and scientists, at the front? “I think that is the reason why I chose to start this project. This was mainly to give science a voice and to really go more in depth. So that people don’t just see the surface, but focus a bit on the content, as well.”
Against a bleak backdrop of melting glaciers, forest fires and starving animals, Thunberg meets coal miners in Poland who fully accept the need to move away from fossil fuels. She visits an “air capture facility” in Switzerland, which removes carbon dioxide from the air, though the scale is still small. She hears that every country has the means to create renewable energy.
Everyone wants to know if Thunberg is hopeful. “One thing I think is hopeful is the fact that nothing is happening and we are still in the same place, or even moving in the wrong direc-tion,” she says, acknowledging that this might surprise people. “Because right now, the science is becoming more and more clear. A few years ago, you could still say, ‘Well, according to this, we are moving in the right direction.’ You can’t do that today. The gap between what we are saying and what needs to be done is growing. You can still ignore it by focusing on other things, but you can’t deny it any more. And that, I think, is hopeful.”
(ATLANTIC CROSSING with her father Svante Thunberg aboard the catamaran La Vagabonde)
People often assume that Thunberg has the answers. “Of course, I don’t have all the solutions. No one has. But when we ask that question, we need to think about: solutions to what? Solutions to the climate crisis, or solutions that allow us to go on like today? Because right now, we are looking for solutions that allow us to go on like today.”
She’s impatient with targets and pledges because they are abstract promises of future action, rather than action itself. She says that, ultimately, change won’t come from summits or conferences or governments. “The changes necessary will come from the streets. They will come from breakfast tables, they will come from schools. They will come from the people. Because in a democracy, which is the only way forward, the people are the ones who have the power. If people become aware, then we can create change. If people don’t put pressure on our elected officials, then of course they won’t do anything. So that is the solution, to make people become aware and to create these social norms, this critical mass that will be impossible for people to ignore.”
Thunberg has needled plenty of politicians.
She has been criticised by Putin, by Bolsonaro, by Trump, yet they seem incapable of getting to her in return. How? “Because I know that it’s a political game and they’re using me to gain popularity.” This, she acknowledges, applies to both those politicians supportive of her agenda and her most vocal detractors. “Whether it is by whether it is by calling me…” – she pauses, then settles for the higher ground – “things, or criticising me. I mean, both these teams are using me for different purposes and in different ways, but they are still using me to gain popularity.”
In last year’s feature-length documentary, I Am Greta (currently available on BBC iPlayer) and in the new BBC series, it becomes clear just how often Thunberg is stopped and asked for selfies. Does she mind it? “I would maybe be happy if they didn’t do that,” she says, sweetly. “But of course, I also recognise that the fact that they are doing it is a proof that the message is getting across, that I am reaching people. You have to see it from the bright side.” Besides, at home in Sweden, it doesn’t happen much, owing to the cultural phenomenon of Jantelagen. “The Law of Jante, you will translate it to. It’s like, ‘OK, so what, you’re famous, I don’t really care.’ Which is quite nice.”
Thunberg was diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome when she was 12. On Autism Awareness Day, on 2 April, she wrote a Twitter thread calling for more awareness of autism and support for those with the condition, and said how proud she is that she is different. When she became famous, she frequently found herself in big, noisy crowds, jostled, pushed and shouted at. These sorts of envi-ronments did become easier for her to handle over time, she says. “That’s also a very beautiful and important part of the story itself. Before, I wasn’t able to speak to anyone. Going outside was hard. I was in a class of five people in school, because I couldn’t be around too many people and I couldn’t handle the noise.”
When she became a climate activist, everything changed. “All that basically disappeared and a purpose. And that just made me feel much better. I had more resistance to with-stand the situation, which is a very good thing. But then again, I’m still very different. I am not like everyone else. It’s still much harder for me than for others to be in these environments. But I just think that, OK, this is for a good cause. And then it doesn’t really bother me that much.”
Anyone who follows Thunberg on Twitter will know she can be funny. In person, she is much lighter than you might expect, if you had only heard snippets of those fierce speeches. “People think that I’m angry or that I’m sad or scared or worried, but that’s a misunderstanding that people have. I just laugh at everything all the time.”
Is humour a useful tool? “Of course, it could be, and even if not, I don’t care. You need to be able to laugh sometimes. The climate crisis is actually hilarious, if you think of it. It’s just the absurdity of the situation. Someone recently asked me, if I could describe the climate crisis with an emoji, what emoji would I use? And the first thing that came to my mind was the laugh-ing emoji with tears in the eyes. That’s the way I see it. I mean, if you’re doing everything you and say, OK, there’s nothing more I can do, so then you just have to laugh at it.”
In one recent tweet, she reposted a report that penis sizes may be shrinking due to pollution. “See you all at the next climate strike,” she wrote, with a smile emoji. When Trump raged about losing the presidential election, she turned what he had said about her back on him, urging him to “Chill, Donald, chill”. Does she enjoy joking around? “That is nothing,” she says. “If I were to write however I wanted to, then people would not take me seriously any more because I would just joke [about] everything and be sarcastic all the time.”
The University of Winchester recently erected a bronze statue of Thunberg to celebrate her as a role model, though students there have complained that the money could have been better spent. Has she seen it? “I have seen pictures.” What does she make of it? “I mean, I don’t really care,” she says, politely. “I try to stay out of these things as much as possible. Of course, it’s very strange. But I try not to soak those things in or to really grasp those kinds of things. If you would do that, and if you would actually believe those things that people say about you, then you would develop some kind of ego that would not be very healthy.” And not very popular in Sweden, by the sound of things. “Ha! No,” she says – with a laugh.
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Man, they're really trying to force her as a celebrity and it's obvious they're trying to rebrand after chimping didn't work.
I guess this is her parents trying to change the brand label now with Rapey BBC advice now that the Creepy Indian Man is focused on that Indian child he found as his new human shield.
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Hell, we had a US president who was crippled with polio and sat in a wheelchair, yet he was flaunted in the media as an invincible larger than life figure then died in office before his last term ended.
EDIT: And to show I'm not being biased in owning the libs, fine, let's go with Ronnie Raygun, too -- the dude was old as dirt and suffered with Alzheimer's in his 2ns term, and the media filled his mouth with jellybeans to make him look human.
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These pictures don’t instill humor or happiness.
It makes it look like she’s confronting me as if I did something wrong, and I don’t remember what I did.
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"Autism and fame"
Actually, she looks like she's about to perform cock & ball torture with that face. And is it just me, or does anyone else find it disturbing how she doesn't change facial expression? She's worse than a PS2 character.
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That's pretty standard for an autist.
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Greta in radiotimes? I know her head looks like a satellite dish but can she get FM or AM stations?
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Her expression is identical. Are we sure that isn't a greta sex doll that they posed for pictures?
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The eyes are too dull and lifeless for that.
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Saw this on Facebook. Puts a whole new meaning to "Greta on the BBC"!
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I saw this face in teachers', administrators', and counselors' offices frequently when I was 15-18. I also knew that if I was old enough to drive a shitty truck I shouldn't be surprised to be buttfucked for smoking weed in it in the school parking lot, or whatever. I was never under the impression that being a teen would protect me from people casting judgement on my retard behavior.
I don't know if the parallel I'm trying to draw here works but my point is I was similarly retarded but would have loved to have gotten myself autistically high, gone and glared at world leaders, and have nobody call me out for being a fucking mong.
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Greta is a perfect microcosm of SocJus. She's unhappy with the way of the world, so the world needs to shape up to suit her desires--and only hers. If you refuse her, she'll throw an autistic tantrum, and it will be your fault, because you are doing evil in making her throw a tantrum. And of course, like all SJWs, she's happy to trade whatever credibility or integrity she has for e-fame or money.
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Maybe I'm overthinking this too much, but why are her pupils so dilated in these particular photos -- especially in that large one shared by Ron Jeremy Stan? Do you think her handlers are pumping her with amphetamines?
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She looks like an Oblivion NPC
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Jesus, her expression really is one you'd see where they get "permanently barely legal" chicks who are like 4'8 to get rammed by 6 black dudes for "the first time".