Science Greta Thunberg Megathread - Dax Herrera says he wouldn't have a day ago (I somewhat doubt that)

Why is Greta Thunberg so triggering? How can a 16-year-old girl in plaits, who has dedicated herself to the not-exactly sinister, authoritarian plot of trying to save the planet from extinction, inspire such incandescent rage?

Last week, she tweeted that she had arrived into New York after her two week transatlantic voyage: “Finally here. Thank you everyone who came to see me off in Plymouth, and everyone who welcomed me in New York! Now I’m going to rest for a few days, and on Friday I’m going to participate in the strike outside the UN”, before promptly giving a press conference in English. Yes, her second language.

Her remarks were immediately greeted with a barrage of jibes about virtue signalling, and snide remarks about the three crew members who will have to fly out to take the yacht home.

This shouldn’t need to be spelled out, but as some people don’t seem to have grasped it yet, we’ll give it a lash: Thunberg’s trip was an act of protest, not a sacred commandment or an instruction manual for the rest of us. Like all acts of protest, it was designed to be symbolic and provocative. For those who missed the point – and oh, how they missed the point – she retweeted someone else’s “friendly reminder” that: “You don’t need to spend two weeks on a boat to do your part to avert our climate emergency. You just need to do everything you can, with everyone you can, to change everything you can.”

Part of the reason she inspires such rage, of course, is blindingly obvious. Climate change is terrifying. The Amazon is burning. So too is the Savannah. Parts of the Arctic are on fire. Sea levels are rising. There are more vicious storms and wildfires and droughts and floods. Denial is easier than confronting the terrifying truth.

Then there’s the fact that we don’t like being made to feel bad about our life choices. That’s human nature. It’s why we sneer at vegans. It’s why we’re suspicious of sober people at parties. And if anything is likely to make you feel bad about your life choices -- as you jet back home after your third Ryanair European minibreak this season – it’ll be the sight of small-boned child subjecting herself to a fortnight being tossed about on the Atlantic, with only a bucket bearing a “Poo Only Please” sign by way of luxury, in order to make a point about climate change.

But that’s not virtue signalling, which anyone can indulge in. As Meghan Markle, Prince Harry, and their-four-private-jets-in-11-days found recently, virtue practising is a lot harder.

Even for someone who spends a lot of time on Twitter, some of the criticism levelled at Thunberg is astonishing. It is, simultaneously, the most vicious and the most fatuous kind of playground bullying. The Australian conservative climate change denier Andrew Bolt called her “deeply disturbed” and “freakishly influential” (the use of “freakish”, we can assume, was not incidental.) The former UKIP funder, Arron Banks, tweeted “Freaking yacht accidents do happen in August” (as above.) Brendan O’Neill of Spiked called her a “millenarian weirdo” (nope, still not incidental) in a piece that referred nastily to her “monotone voice” and “the look of apocalyptic dread in her eyes”.

But who’s the real freak – the activist whose determination has single-handedly started a powerful global movement for change, or the middle-aged man taunting a child with Asperger syndrome from behind the safety of their computer screens?

And that, of course, is the real reason why Greta Thunberg is so triggering. They can’t admit it even to themselves, so they ridicule her instead. But the truth is that they’re afraid of her. The poor dears are terrified of her as an individual, and of what she stands for – youth, determination, change.

She is part of a generation who won’t be cowed. She isn’t about to be shamed into submission by trolls. That’s not actually a look of apocalyptic dread in her eyes. It’s a look that says “you’re not relevant”.

The reason they taunt her with childish insults is because that’s all they’ve got. They’re out of ideas. They can’t dismantle her arguments, because she has science – and David Attenborough – on her side. They can’t win the debate with the persuasive force of their arguments, because these bargain bin cranks trade in jaded cynicism, not youthful passion. They can harangue her with snide tweets and hot take blogposts, but they won’t get a reaction because, frankly, she has bigger worries on her mind.

That’s not to say that we should accept everything Thunberg says without question. She is an idealist who is young enough to see the world in black and white. We need voices like hers. We should listen to what she has to say, without tuning the more moderate voices of dissent out.

Why is Greta Thunberg so triggering? Because of what she represents. In an age when democracy is under assault, she hints at the emergency of new kind of power, a convergence of youth, popular protest and irrefutable science. And for her loudest detractors, she also represents something else: the sight of their impending obsolescence hurtling towards them.

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Found this thought-provoking indeed.

 

[AnOminous]

Since Greta is 18, that means she can be tried as an adult. How many years in India prison could she get if this falls through?

Like Sweden would extradite to India of all places for doing something that is almost certainly not illegal in Sweden.

 

[Stoneheart]

Like Sweden would extradite to India of all places for doing something that is almost certainly not illegal in Sweden.

Its Sweden, you never know...

 

[soy_king]

Like Sweden would extradite to India of all places for doing something that is almost certainly not illegal in Sweden.

They do have an extradition agreement with India, so it's possible.

 

[Autistic lurker]

Indians often make fun of muslims when they get angry over cartoons, but now indians are mad over a tweet by some autistic person in Sweden.

What does Greta achieve by pissing off indians? Besides proving that she's indeed a puppet designed for stirring up shit in India. It'll bring only violence there.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

 

[soy_king]

Indians often make fun of muslims when they get angry over cartoons, but now indians are mad over a tweet by some autistic person in Sweden.

What does Greta achieve by pissing off indians? Besides proving that she's indeed a puppet designed for stirring up shit in India. It'll bring only violence there.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

That's rich coming from a people who routinely lynch Muslims for allegedly butchering cows.

 

[Yamma Damma]

Indians often make fun of muslims when they get angry over cartoons, but now indians are mad over a tweet by some autistic person in Sweden.

What does Greta achieve by pissing off indians? Besides proving that she's indeed a puppet designed for stirring up shit in India. It'll bring only violence there.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

It's not Greta's tweet that made them mad (I'd laugh at them it if was), it's was the document in the tweet pertaining to their protests that pissed them off. Greta's fuckup revealed India's unrest isn't organic or even just involving Indians. It's roping in any foreign media influencers to pump out misinfo and make a country they've never been to/don't live in even worse than it was while they get more money and power. Since she's not american there's little they can do to protect her whiny ass so I look forward to her being yelled at by adults for a change.

 

[Michael Jacks0n]

I suppose her dreams of climate sperging have really been "stolen" from her now. If she goes to jail in India, she's going to get a wake up call to see how bad pollution is there. Or alternatively, I wouldn't be surprised if Greta just malfunctioned all of a sudden and was revealed to be a robot.

2021 is such a fucking bizarre timeline. Imagine if the Climate Goblin gets sent to an Indian prison, sees the horrors of the extreme pollution in the developing world, becomes super racist against brown people, gets redpilled, and eventually exits prison as a far-right extremist. 4 years from now she'll be streaming her own KillStream clone and marching in white supremacist demonstrations.

This is of course assuming my theory of her being deepfakes is false. I mean, look at these fucking facial expressions (or lack thereof)...this ain't human.

 

[AnOminous]

They do have an extradition agreement with India, so it's possible.

It's not illegal to tweet in Sweden and countries don't extradite for things that aren't also illegal in their country, whether or not they have an extradition agreement.

2021 is such a fucking bizarre timeline. Imagine if the Climate Goblin gets sent to an Indian prison, sees the horrors of the extreme pollution in the developing world, becomes super racist against brown people, gets redpilled, and eventually exits prison as a far-right extremist.

Or instead some wise inmate teaches her the wisdom of Savitri Devi and she leaves prison a devotee of Esoteric Hitlerism.

 

[soy_king]

It's not illegal to tweet in Sweden and countries don't extradite for things that aren't also illegal in their country, whether or not they have an extradition agreement.

Unless I'm mistaken, the criminal complaint is geared towards a seditious conspiracy to topple or otherwise harm the interests of the Indian government. That's a little more serious than mere tweeting.

 

[Miller]

Right on schedule...

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This reminds me of the activists who ask people to flood a hashtag with pictures of cats right after a terrorist attack in Europe.

 

[Stoneheart]

Greta's fuckup revealed India's unrest isn't organic or even just involving Indians.

Well the Unrest is organic, its just used by foreign powers. Indian farmer either pissed or about to drink round-up thats nothing new.
Those farmers want a better future, but foreign powers try to use them to hurt india.

 

[AnOminous]

Unless I'm mistaken, the criminal complaint is geared towards a seditious conspiracy to topple or otherwise harm the interests of the Indian government. That's a little more serious than mere tweeting.

As far as I'm concerned the farmers are getting a raw deal. They're actually there. They know what the fuck they're living through. Blaming it on outside agitators when millions of your own people think they're getting fucked in the ass is bullshit, whether or not such agitators actually exist. Are these farmers mindless automatons? Do they even see fucking tweets from Swedes?

There is absolutely nothing illegal about saying the Indian government is corrupt as fuck, maybe even more corrupt than the Gandhi regime it replaced, and therefore, it is not illegal to "conspire" to do something completely legal, i.e. criticize the fucking government, whether or not that leads people to want to overthrow it.

 

[Syikeblade]

This is the woman who was editing the document.

https://twitter.com/marinapatt?lang=en

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I don't know why the fuck these white vegan bitches think it's ok to incite violent insurrection in foreign countries.

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She's here on why she joined some eco-terrorist group:

Facebook

www.facebook.com

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She's taken down her LinkedIn

https://uk.linkedin.com/in/marina-patterson-168a30137

https://www.vegfest.co.uk/speakers/marina-patterson/ (https://archive.fo/eAmlR)

The average Indian consumes less animal products than her anyway.

They should deport these kind of people to India. Let them whine from there.

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Why is veganism so popular with narcissistic white people?

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

Well this akward

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This is the woman who was editing the document.

https://twitter.com/marinapatt?lang=en

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I don't know why the fuck these white vegan bitches think it's ok to incite violent insurrection in foreign countries.

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She's here on why she joined some eco-terrorist group:

Facebook

www.facebook.com

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She's taken down her LinkedIn

https://uk.linkedin.com/in/marina-patterson-168a30137

https://www.vegfest.co.uk/speakers/marina-patterson/ (https://archive.fo/eAmlR)

The average Indian consumes less animal products than her anyway.

They should deport these kind of people to India. Let them whine from there.

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Karma's a bitch, Ms. Thumb-Sperg. And she's in heat right now.

 

[soy_king]

As far as I'm concerned the farmers are getting a raw deal. They're actually there. They know what the fuck they're living through. Blaming it on outside agitators when millions of your own people think they're getting fucked in the ass is bullshit, whether or not such agitators actually exist. Are these farmers mindless automatons? Do they even see fucking tweets from Swedes?

There is absolutely nothing illegal about saying the Indian government is corrupt as fuck, maybe even more corrupt than the Gandhi regime it replaced, and therefore, it is not illegal to "conspire" to do something completely legal, i.e. criticize the fucking government, whether or not that leads people to want to overthrow it.

No one is disagreeing with you, at least on a personal level. However, those documents clearly demonstrated coordination with outside agitators, which should at least be viewed with suspicion, and if it's illegal in a particular jurisdiction, you should get the book thrown at you.

A lot of this also has to do with the fact that Modi doesn't give a fuck and is basically Indian Trump, and the amount of hate these neoliberals have against him or any politician who goes against the grain is absurd. No rational person here would disagree with you that people should have a right to air their grievances with the government, but a lot of people want stuck-up, privileged harpies like the Swedish goblin to get what's coming to her, and that in this case is a legal reckoning from Superpower 2020. Jai Hind!

 

[The Door]

The western elites have instigated riots in many “corrupt” countries. It was called the Arab Springs. Formerly stable countries became wartorn hellholes in the name of liberal democracy. Even now, are these countries trying to pick up the pieces.

These elites on the other hand? Never have to live through the hell they caused. Just find more countries to destroy.

Do the farmers have it bad? Sure. But should the Indians be happy to see some out of touch influencers turn their country into a bloodbath, just so said influencers could feel like righteous champions of the liberal democratic cause?

 

[AnOminous]

However, those documents clearly demonstrated coordination with outside agitators, which should at least be viewed with suspicion, and if it's illegal in a particular jurisdiction, you should get the book thrown at you.

So if I say Mohammed was a pedophile, I should be dragged to Iran to be stoned? Fuck that noise.

 

[Salubrious]

Why is veganism so popular with narcissistic white people?

"Better than thou" mentality.

 

[soy_king]

So if I say Mohammed was a pedophile, I should be dragged to Iran to be stoned? Fuck that noise.

If you said that and then decided to coordinate with globalists to coordinate protests in an effort to take down the government, I would not shed a tear for you.

If you said that and then decided to coordinate with globalists to coordinate protests in an effort to take down the government, I would not shed a tear for you.

Slight correction: Iran's a little different because it's government can't be voted out, but if you pulled shit like that in Malaysia, then yeah, don't feel bad.

 

[XYZpdq]

yeah it's not about saying "lol take the poo to the loo" it's about "whoops here's our secret plans to destabilize the government of India"