Science Greta Thunberg Megathread - Dax Herrera says he wouldn't have a day ago (I somewhat doubt that)

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Why is Greta Thunberg so triggering? How can a 16-year-old girl in plaits, who has dedicated herself to the not-exactly sinister, authoritarian plot of trying to save the planet from extinction, inspire such incandescent rage?

Last week, she tweeted that she had arrived into New York after her two week transatlantic voyage: “Finally here. Thank you everyone who came to see me off in Plymouth, and everyone who welcomed me in New York! Now I’m going to rest for a few days, and on Friday I’m going to participate in the strike outside the UN”, before promptly giving a press conference in English. Yes, her second language.

Her remarks were immediately greeted with a barrage of jibes about virtue signalling, and snide remarks about the three crew members who will have to fly out to take the yacht home.

This shouldn’t need to be spelled out, but as some people don’t seem to have grasped it yet, we’ll give it a lash: Thunberg’s trip was an act of protest, not a sacred commandment or an instruction manual for the rest of us. Like all acts of protest, it was designed to be symbolic and provocative. For those who missed the point – and oh, how they missed the point – she retweeted someone else’s “friendly reminder” that: “You don’t need to spend two weeks on a boat to do your part to avert our climate emergency. You just need to do everything you can, with everyone you can, to change everything you can.”

Part of the reason she inspires such rage, of course, is blindingly obvious. Climate change is terrifying. The Amazon is burning. So too is the Savannah. Parts of the Arctic are on fire. Sea levels are rising. There are more vicious storms and wildfires and droughts and floods. Denial is easier than confronting the terrifying truth.

Then there’s the fact that we don’t like being made to feel bad about our life choices. That’s human nature. It’s why we sneer at vegans. It’s why we’re suspicious of sober people at parties. And if anything is likely to make you feel bad about your life choices -- as you jet back home after your third Ryanair European minibreak this season – it’ll be the sight of small-boned child subjecting herself to a fortnight being tossed about on the Atlantic, with only a bucket bearing a “Poo Only Please” sign by way of luxury, in order to make a point about climate change.

But that’s not virtue signalling, which anyone can indulge in. As Meghan Markle, Prince Harry, and their-four-private-jets-in-11-days found recently, virtue practising is a lot harder.

Even for someone who spends a lot of time on Twitter, some of the criticism levelled at Thunberg is astonishing. It is, simultaneously, the most vicious and the most fatuous kind of playground bullying. The Australian conservative climate change denier Andrew Bolt called her “deeply disturbed” and “freakishly influential” (the use of “freakish”, we can assume, was not incidental.) The former UKIP funder, Arron Banks, tweeted “Freaking yacht accidents do happen in August” (as above.) Brendan O’Neill of Spiked called her a “millenarian weirdo” (nope, still not incidental) in a piece that referred nastily to her “monotone voice” and “the look of apocalyptic dread in her eyes”.

But who’s the real freak – the activist whose determination has single-handedly started a powerful global movement for change, or the middle-aged man taunting a child with Asperger syndrome from behind the safety of their computer screens?

And that, of course, is the real reason why Greta Thunberg is so triggering. They can’t admit it even to themselves, so they ridicule her instead. But the truth is that they’re afraid of her. The poor dears are terrified of her as an individual, and of what she stands for – youth, determination, change.

She is part of a generation who won’t be cowed. She isn’t about to be shamed into submission by trolls. That’s not actually a look of apocalyptic dread in her eyes. It’s a look that says “you’re not relevant”.

The reason they taunt her with childish insults is because that’s all they’ve got. They’re out of ideas. They can’t dismantle her arguments, because she has science – and David Attenborough – on her side. They can’t win the debate with the persuasive force of their arguments, because these bargain bin cranks trade in jaded cynicism, not youthful passion. They can harangue her with snide tweets and hot take blogposts, but they won’t get a reaction because, frankly, she has bigger worries on her mind.

That’s not to say that we should accept everything Thunberg says without question. She is an idealist who is young enough to see the world in black and white. We need voices like hers. We should listen to what she has to say, without tuning the more moderate voices of dissent out.

Why is Greta Thunberg so triggering? Because of what she represents. In an age when democracy is under assault, she hints at the emergency of new kind of power, a convergence of youth, popular protest and irrefutable science. And for her loudest detractors, she also represents something else: the sight of their impending obsolescence hurtling towards them.

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Found this thought-provoking indeed.
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Maybe it's confirmation bias here, but this little brat ALSO looks fake and possibly created via deepfakes. She looks like a composite image of Joseph Gordon-Levitt and some Asian girl. This is getting fucking weird.
Hey, Joseph Gorton Fisherman is a handsome Boi, don't lump him in with this abomination for fucks sake.
 
There is video of her and her sister, she is indeed real. She is also 19 or 20 (born in 2001), so she's even older than Greta.
Deepfakes can be done with video, too. I wonder when the first completely made-up figurehead of a movement appears... And when it would be noticed. The media, if they agree with that figurehead, will of course defend said figurehead to the last against all the evil conspiracy theorists who are all just misogynerds and so on. So it might take a while to figure it out, wouldn't it? Prolong the Coof indefinitely and you have the perfect time to just make up your perfect little spokesgirl that you never have to worry going off-script about, and with the perfect excuse to never being seen with others.
Not that this is gonna happen anytime soon, but it's a funny thought.
 
Climate activist Greta Thunberg at Klaus Schwab's @WEF: "Your house is on fire. You've had more than 3 decades of blah, blah, blah."
 
And what are her suggestions to fix this other than being trotted out every other month to remind us how messed up her existence is?
She's getting older. We're also waiting for the day that she "opens up" about the numerous times she was sexually exploited by her handlers.

I have to admit that I laughed at the whole, “You would just wait 10, 20, 30 years later to call the fire department while people were trying to wake you up.”

Now you care about people’s homes being on fire? Don’t you live in a sweet apartment that looks more expensive and homely looking than any other place I’ve seen to date? How’s that working out for you? :story:

and it says a whole lot that she doesn’t even know about the idea of having, or trying to create the technology, to have fireproof homes
 
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Climate activist Greta Thunberg at Klaus Schwab's @WEF: "Your house is on fire. You've had more than 3 decades of blah, blah, blah."
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This is pretty much the exact same stuff she's been saying for over two years now. Even the sentence structure and metaphors are literally the same. minus the panic and plus the extremely imaginative "blah blah blah" (lol wut?).
Has anyone watched the interviews on the daily show, Stephen Colbert or Ellen? I am kind of curious how rehearsed it sounds, but I can't bring myself to watch ten minutes of doomerspeak while the adults are crawling up her asshole.
 
Greta Thunberg is a perfect example of how you can gaslight thousands of people into an obvious marketing tactic who spews nothing but hot air. It's remarkable how easily manipulated people will be if you convince them they're part of an epic story by supporting her.

You see, when I was Greta's age I absolutely despised it when journalists fawned over some new wunderkind we were supposed to worship, or else we were melanin deficient heterosexual one percenter scrotums according to their telepathic wisdom.

It was as though every adult involved worshiping these contrived mannequins was vicariously living out their fantasies of being a world saving child hero through us.

I knew the self gratifying larp bullshit they were up to and hated them for the fact they didn't even notice it, and the cocksucking cowardly propagandists who encouraged their delusions and sneered at anyone who felt the least bit cynical.

I'm all for reduction of emissions and burying co2, but I absolutely despise propaganda tactics, disingenuousness, psychological and semantic tricks, and most of all, hero worship.
 
Climate activist Greta Thunberg at Klaus Schwab's @WEF: "Your house is on fire. You've had more than 3 decades of blah, blah, blah."
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Lol, she's so far past being relevant at this point. Her popularity was largely driven by a media cycle wherein everyone was obsessed with climate change. Then a bunch of other things happened and most of us collectively forgot about both it and Greta.
 
Lol, she's so far past being relevant at this point. Her popularity was largely driven by a media cycle wherein everyone was obsessed with climate change. Then a bunch of other things happened and most of us collectively forgot about both it and Greta.
In retrospect, she'll either be hailed as a hero, or just a puppet for the people of the late twentytens to pretend they did something good in their hollow, empty lives. And as an opportunity for disingenuous, cowardly scumfuck journalists to keep on pushing their bullshit narrative. They keep what remains of their readership hooked by insinuating that by yelling the right words and worshiping the right golden calfs, they're making history.

Either way, their insinuations continue to reinforce their readers' delusions that every single child in the universe is one monumental hive mind chanting the will of Gaia ad nauseam, and the only people who doubt this are evil industrialists. They use all sorts of scummy, underhanded semantic tactics: they state perfectly valid, plausible concerns about her legitimacy in a mocking way without attacking the argument.

It's like she's been deified. Just as gods are personifications of concepts, she's become the personification of nature. And that's something we can't afford in the 21st century. "Oh, you hate the actions of this priest? You must hate God!", That kind of thing.

I don't admire Paolini, because not only is he a shit writer, but his rich parents propped him up. I have the same kind of cynical attitude towards Greta. But anyhow, the media needs reverence, because they're well aware that their sacred cows will get mocked by anyone. This is because they are human and have human flaws, so they need to use the narrative to create a godlike figure that the proles will worship. Rebellious, underdog girl. Check. Incredibly obvious ideals nobody could go against. Check.

So the only thing they can do is get their cronies to insinuate that you're an idiot and probably white for thinking there had to be any amount of string pulling to get her where she was.

Funny enough, her defenders are millennials and boomers who've spent so long on social media, yet have remained so blind to how internet culture works, they legitimately believe they're fighting a cosmic battle against evil. I suspect she's just an excuse for these kinds of people to feel good about themselves and buy her books.
 
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Finally, she did something useful for the society (even if by mistake).
 
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