Science Greta Thunberg Megathread - Dax Herrera says he wouldn't have a day ago (I somewhat doubt that)

Why is Greta Thunberg so triggering? How can a 16-year-old girl in plaits, who has dedicated herself to the not-exactly sinister, authoritarian plot of trying to save the planet from extinction, inspire such incandescent rage?

Last week, she tweeted that she had arrived into New York after her two week transatlantic voyage: “Finally here. Thank you everyone who came to see me off in Plymouth, and everyone who welcomed me in New York! Now I’m going to rest for a few days, and on Friday I’m going to participate in the strike outside the UN”, before promptly giving a press conference in English. Yes, her second language.

Her remarks were immediately greeted with a barrage of jibes about virtue signalling, and snide remarks about the three crew members who will have to fly out to take the yacht home.

This shouldn’t need to be spelled out, but as some people don’t seem to have grasped it yet, we’ll give it a lash: Thunberg’s trip was an act of protest, not a sacred commandment or an instruction manual for the rest of us. Like all acts of protest, it was designed to be symbolic and provocative. For those who missed the point – and oh, how they missed the point – she retweeted someone else’s “friendly reminder” that: “You don’t need to spend two weeks on a boat to do your part to avert our climate emergency. You just need to do everything you can, with everyone you can, to change everything you can.”

Part of the reason she inspires such rage, of course, is blindingly obvious. Climate change is terrifying. The Amazon is burning. So too is the Savannah. Parts of the Arctic are on fire. Sea levels are rising. There are more vicious storms and wildfires and droughts and floods. Denial is easier than confronting the terrifying truth.

Then there’s the fact that we don’t like being made to feel bad about our life choices. That’s human nature. It’s why we sneer at vegans. It’s why we’re suspicious of sober people at parties. And if anything is likely to make you feel bad about your life choices -- as you jet back home after your third Ryanair European minibreak this season – it’ll be the sight of small-boned child subjecting herself to a fortnight being tossed about on the Atlantic, with only a bucket bearing a “Poo Only Please” sign by way of luxury, in order to make a point about climate change.

But that’s not virtue signalling, which anyone can indulge in. As Meghan Markle, Prince Harry, and their-four-private-jets-in-11-days found recently, virtue practising is a lot harder.

Even for someone who spends a lot of time on Twitter, some of the criticism levelled at Thunberg is astonishing. It is, simultaneously, the most vicious and the most fatuous kind of playground bullying. The Australian conservative climate change denier Andrew Bolt called her “deeply disturbed” and “freakishly influential” (the use of “freakish”, we can assume, was not incidental.) The former UKIP funder, Arron Banks, tweeted “Freaking yacht accidents do happen in August” (as above.) Brendan O’Neill of Spiked called her a “millenarian weirdo” (nope, still not incidental) in a piece that referred nastily to her “monotone voice” and “the look of apocalyptic dread in her eyes”.

But who’s the real freak – the activist whose determination has single-handedly started a powerful global movement for change, or the middle-aged man taunting a child with Asperger syndrome from behind the safety of their computer screens?

And that, of course, is the real reason why Greta Thunberg is so triggering. They can’t admit it even to themselves, so they ridicule her instead. But the truth is that they’re afraid of her. The poor dears are terrified of her as an individual, and of what she stands for – youth, determination, change.

She is part of a generation who won’t be cowed. She isn’t about to be shamed into submission by trolls. That’s not actually a look of apocalyptic dread in her eyes. It’s a look that says “you’re not relevant”.

The reason they taunt her with childish insults is because that’s all they’ve got. They’re out of ideas. They can’t dismantle her arguments, because she has science – and David Attenborough – on her side. They can’t win the debate with the persuasive force of their arguments, because these bargain bin cranks trade in jaded cynicism, not youthful passion. They can harangue her with snide tweets and hot take blogposts, but they won’t get a reaction because, frankly, she has bigger worries on her mind.

That’s not to say that we should accept everything Thunberg says without question. She is an idealist who is young enough to see the world in black and white. We need voices like hers. We should listen to what she has to say, without tuning the more moderate voices of dissent out.

Why is Greta Thunberg so triggering? Because of what she represents. In an age when democracy is under assault, she hints at the emergency of new kind of power, a convergence of youth, popular protest and irrefutable science. And for her loudest detractors, she also represents something else: the sight of their impending obsolescence hurtling towards them.

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Found this thought-provoking indeed.

 

[BrokenWokenBespoken]

She'll be discarded just like David Hogg. These kids get used and get gifted free rides to prestigious universities where they likely stand no chance.

I am more concerned if this emboldens the right to just go "Fuck it, send troops into the amazon, daddy needs a new gold mine built on the bones of these uppity natives who is going to taste 5.56 eviction notices."

 

[Mola Ram]

She'll be discarded just like David Hogg. These kids get used and get gifted free rides to prestigious universities where they likely stand no chance.

At least David Hogg actually finished high school.

 

[AltisticRight]

Gretard is now like Hitler, well done, you played yourself...

Well... the resemblance is there...

 

[AnOminous]

She’s still fading into oblivion. This was the last ditch effort to keep her relevant.
She’s complaining that her protests accomplished nothing. Well, get your bony little butt to a beach and start picking up trash, girl. Your fans will probably follow your lead. There! Now, you’ve accomplished something.

Protests always accomplish nothing you dumb cunt. Other than getting attention, which is what this autistic slut wanted. Apparently the very concept of just going and picking up trash or blowing up an oil refinery or doing anything at all other than making mean faces on TV eludes her.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Sorry if someone had already posted it but Timcast posted a vlog by saying then Time magazine steals Greta's childhood. Did Time had chicken out to China because I think the Hong Kong protestors was a better choice than Greta as person of the year.

Some comments gived me some chuckles.

dcrog69

I think Greta has turned a lot of people off of the environmental movement.

Alpha Approved
This just in, Time’s Person of the Year for 2019 is ManBearPig

 

[Judge Holden]

Crossposting from the Drumpf thread, as the King in Orange has officially told Greta to chill the fuck out and im guessing this will cause an uptick in cultist articles in the coming hours

 

[TowinKarz]

The person who outright said she's failed has accomplished more?

Now I really want to know what color the sky is in Liberal Land, as they clearly aren't inhabiting this plane anymore. It's pink isn't it?

 

[Arkancide Pact]

I am more concerned if this emboldens the right to just go "Fuck it, send troops into the amazon, daddy needs a new gold mine built on the bones of these uppity natives who is going to taste 5.56 eviction notices."

What the fuck are you talking about and what does it have to do with Greta Stupid face?

Gold mines, environmental destruction, and murder are 3 things that have nothing to do with "climate change".

 

[BrokenWokenBespoken]

The person who outright said she's failed has accomplished more?

Now I really want to know what color the sky is in Liberal Land, as they clearly aren't inhabiting this plane anymore. It's pink isn't it?

There is a difference getting a headpat and some environmentalist blowing up an oil refinery or mine to stop climate change. One hurts the economic viability and the other doesnt.

What the fuck are you talking about and what does it have to do with Greta Stupid face?

Gold mines, environmental destruction, and murder are 3 things that have nothing to do with "climate change".

As in Environmentalists taking more direct action to stop people like Bolsanairo and Trump beyond mere protests to deal with climate change. Because protests wont stop the government from raping the environment and continuing the downward spiral because they want more money

 

[AltisticRight]

Crossposting from the Drumpf thread, as the King in Orange has officially told Greta to chill the fuck out and im guessing this will cause an uptick in cultist articles in the coming hours

POZnanSKI has to be the gayest surname to have.
And I object to that retarded statement.
Trump:
- President
- Billionaire, providing numerous with jobs
- Plays tax laws like a fiddle
- Has waifu that speaks 7 languages, 185cm tall
- Sees more pussy than a toilet seat

Greta:
- Can't solve differential equations
- Doesn't know how the world works
- Bitches about dumb shit
- Wants other kids to be as dumb as she is
- Skips schools

Not sure who's more successful. Someone who became the president and gives jobs to 10k+ people, or a stupid kid who wants other easily impressionable and stupid kids to not learn how to do ∫ e^xdx but instead talk about shit they are clueless about.

 

[Silence of the Troons]

Crossposting from the Drumpf thread, as the King in Orange has officially told Greta to chill the fuck out and im guessing this will cause an uptick in cultist articles in the coming hours

And she changed her Twitter bio again

 

[Mola Ram]

And she changed her Twitter bio again
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It's amazing to me how easily Trump gets a rise out of absolutely everyone, though I suppose one shouldn't expect any better from a grumpy autistic high school dropout.

 

[Arkancide Pact]

There is a difference getting a headpat and some environmentalist blowing up an oil refinery or mine to stop climate change. One hurts the economic viability and the other doesnt.



As in Environmentalists taking more direct action to stop people like Bolsanairo and Trump beyond mere protests to deal with climate change. Because protests wont stop the government from raping the environment and continuing the downward spiral because they want more money

Greta thurnburg talks about climate change and co2, not environmentalism or destruction of nature. You're just spouting off vague environmentalist bullshit that doesn't relate to this at all. CO2 is not "dirty air". Wtf does Trump have to do with Brazil or gold mines?

You're a perfect representative of the global warming useful idiot. You don't know anything about the subject you act so passionate about because it gives you a feeling that you are "doing something" and all the enviro-scolds in the media tell you this is the thing to be mad about.

 

[Water-T]

It's hilarious that all she's doing is parroting Trump, and NPCs are lining up like trained seals to congratulate her for making a sick burn. If she wasn't actually bothered by Trump's remark, she wouldn't even be responding to that at all.

 

[The Gag Knuckle]

Greta Thunberg's a potato faced weirdo, but the actual President of the USA is engaging in a twitter beef with a literal teenage girl.

Cunt needs necked. What a fucking shambles of a man.

 

[icecait]

Greta thurnburg talks about climate change and co2

No she doesn't.

It is a crisis of human rights, of justice, and of political will. Colonial, racist, and patriarchal systems of oppression have created and fueled it. We need to dismantle them all.

She's a downy jew marxist who will happily go tell the White countries that they should destroy their economies, but she doesn't dare speak about the actual problem (africans reproducing like rabbits, overpopulation is the actual problem, or india/china being mass polluters.) No she's a left bitch who should fuck off and die, as well as anybody who even remotely defends the cunt.

 

[Arkancide Pact]

No she doesn't.



She's a downy jew marxist who will happily go tell the White countries that they should destroy their economies, but she doesn't dare speak about the actual problem (africans reproducing like rabbits, overpopulation is the actual problem, or india/china being mass polluters.) No she's a left bitch who should fuck off and die, as well as anybody who even remotely defends the cunt.

Ok ok fair enough, yeah, global warming is a trojan horse for full on global socialism. But she pretends that it's all about solving climate change.

 

[BrokenWokenBespoken]

Greta thurnburg talks about climate change and co2, not environmentalism or destruction of nature. You're just spouting off vague environmentalist bullshit that doesn't relate to this at all. CO2 is not "dirty air". Wtf does Trump have to do with Brazil or gold mines?

You're a perfect representative of the global warming useful idiot. You don't know anything about the subject you act so passionate about because it gives you a feeling that you are "doing something" and all the enviro-scolds in the media tell you this is the thing to be mad about.

What I am saying is Trump and Brazil is not only denying climate change but also enabling the offenders by polluting the environment by pushig for anti climate change measures just to make her feel powerless to see the world die from climate change while they are chowing down on well done brazilian steak cackling.

And I am only mildly symapthetic to thurnberg's plight only cause people around wont fucking shut up about. Let the tanks roll down the amazon and industry smog choke the earth if it means Greta gets a dose of reality.

 

[Freddy Freaker]

What I am saying is Trump and Brazil is not only denying climate change but also enabling the offenders by polluting the environment by pushig for anti climate change measures just to make her feel powerless to see the world die from climate change while they are chowing down on well done brazilian steak cackling.

"Drumpftler and Bolsollini are literal Captain Planet villains who want to kill us all with pollution to make the poor downy girl cry!"

 

[BrokenWokenBespoken]

"Drumpftler and Bolsollini are literal Captain Planet villains who want to kill us all with pollution to make the poor downy girl cry!"

Well they are not doing anyone any favors so may as well go fuck it and let them go ham on the environment since they have the power and Greta dont.