Science Greta Thunberg Megathread - Dax Herrera says he wouldn't have a day ago (I somewhat doubt that)

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Why is Greta Thunberg so triggering? How can a 16-year-old girl in plaits, who has dedicated herself to the not-exactly sinister, authoritarian plot of trying to save the planet from extinction, inspire such incandescent rage?

Last week, she tweeted that she had arrived into New York after her two week transatlantic voyage: “Finally here. Thank you everyone who came to see me off in Plymouth, and everyone who welcomed me in New York! Now I’m going to rest for a few days, and on Friday I’m going to participate in the strike outside the UN”, before promptly giving a press conference in English. Yes, her second language.

Her remarks were immediately greeted with a barrage of jibes about virtue signalling, and snide remarks about the three crew members who will have to fly out to take the yacht home.

This shouldn’t need to be spelled out, but as some people don’t seem to have grasped it yet, we’ll give it a lash: Thunberg’s trip was an act of protest, not a sacred commandment or an instruction manual for the rest of us. Like all acts of protest, it was designed to be symbolic and provocative. For those who missed the point – and oh, how they missed the point – she retweeted someone else’s “friendly reminder” that: “You don’t need to spend two weeks on a boat to do your part to avert our climate emergency. You just need to do everything you can, with everyone you can, to change everything you can.”

Part of the reason she inspires such rage, of course, is blindingly obvious. Climate change is terrifying. The Amazon is burning. So too is the Savannah. Parts of the Arctic are on fire. Sea levels are rising. There are more vicious storms and wildfires and droughts and floods. Denial is easier than confronting the terrifying truth.

Then there’s the fact that we don’t like being made to feel bad about our life choices. That’s human nature. It’s why we sneer at vegans. It’s why we’re suspicious of sober people at parties. And if anything is likely to make you feel bad about your life choices -- as you jet back home after your third Ryanair European minibreak this season – it’ll be the sight of small-boned child subjecting herself to a fortnight being tossed about on the Atlantic, with only a bucket bearing a “Poo Only Please” sign by way of luxury, in order to make a point about climate change.

But that’s not virtue signalling, which anyone can indulge in. As Meghan Markle, Prince Harry, and their-four-private-jets-in-11-days found recently, virtue practising is a lot harder.

Even for someone who spends a lot of time on Twitter, some of the criticism levelled at Thunberg is astonishing. It is, simultaneously, the most vicious and the most fatuous kind of playground bullying. The Australian conservative climate change denier Andrew Bolt called her “deeply disturbed” and “freakishly influential” (the use of “freakish”, we can assume, was not incidental.) The former UKIP funder, Arron Banks, tweeted “Freaking yacht accidents do happen in August” (as above.) Brendan O’Neill of Spiked called her a “millenarian weirdo” (nope, still not incidental) in a piece that referred nastily to her “monotone voice” and “the look of apocalyptic dread in her eyes”.

But who’s the real freak – the activist whose determination has single-handedly started a powerful global movement for change, or the middle-aged man taunting a child with Asperger syndrome from behind the safety of their computer screens?

And that, of course, is the real reason why Greta Thunberg is so triggering. They can’t admit it even to themselves, so they ridicule her instead. But the truth is that they’re afraid of her. The poor dears are terrified of her as an individual, and of what she stands for – youth, determination, change.

She is part of a generation who won’t be cowed. She isn’t about to be shamed into submission by trolls. That’s not actually a look of apocalyptic dread in her eyes. It’s a look that says “you’re not relevant”.

The reason they taunt her with childish insults is because that’s all they’ve got. They’re out of ideas. They can’t dismantle her arguments, because she has science – and David Attenborough – on her side. They can’t win the debate with the persuasive force of their arguments, because these bargain bin cranks trade in jaded cynicism, not youthful passion. They can harangue her with snide tweets and hot take blogposts, but they won’t get a reaction because, frankly, she has bigger worries on her mind.

That’s not to say that we should accept everything Thunberg says without question. She is an idealist who is young enough to see the world in black and white. We need voices like hers. We should listen to what she has to say, without tuning the more moderate voices of dissent out.

Why is Greta Thunberg so triggering? Because of what she represents. In an age when democracy is under assault, she hints at the emergency of new kind of power, a convergence of youth, popular protest and irrefutable science. And for her loudest detractors, she also represents something else: the sight of their impending obsolescence hurtling towards them.

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Stoneheart said:
She is vegan, thats why she is so short. Swedish woman are normaly pretty huge...
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Late but aspie girls tend to look way younger than they actually are. I have no idea why but it seems to be a trend.

On topic the more attention she gets the more I worry. I don't hate her, I feel sorry for her. She is a clearly sick girl being fed hyperbole about climate change and she is going out of her head about it. Autists have trouble modulating their tone when they speak and emotions. They can work themselves up no problem and that was fully on display at the UN. I have experience with aspie kids and she was displaying all the signs of an aspie kid with zero methods of self moderation you would normally get from some sort of therapy.

She is going to crash and burn hard. Even the most well adjusted aspies have that one banal thing that makes them go ballistic. She is far from well adjusted and the adults propping her up are setting her up for a spectacular mental breakdown. I agree with the other posters, this is child abuse.
 
Dr. Dingo DVM said:
She is going to crash and burn hard. Even the most well adjusted aspies have that one banal thing that makes them go ballistic. She is far from well adjusted and the adults propping her up are setting her up for a spectacular mental breakdown.
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And when she does crash and burn, they’ll Chloe Sagal her ass and say it’s the fault of literally everyone else. Namely whoever didn’t look at vegan Jesus and immediately accept her into their lives as their lord and savior.
 
Corm said:
On the topic of doxing (I thought of making this its own thread but it would inevitably get merged in anyway), check out this Buzzfeed!

Teenage Girls Are Leading The Climate Movement — And Getting Attacked For It
A new movement of teenage climate activists — most of whom are girls — are getting dragged, doxed, hacked, and harassed online.
Picture of Zahra Hirji Zahra Hirji BuzzFeed News Reporter
Posted on September 25, 2019, at 3:02 p.m. ET



www.buzzfeednews.com

It's Not Just Greta. Trolls Are Swarming Young Climate Activists Online.

A new movement of teenage climate activists — most of whom are girls — are getting dragged, doxed, hacked, and harassed online.
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No they're not. Scientists are. Teenage girls are being used as tools by the rich to shield them from criticism.


ZehnBoat said:
god her orbiters are more annoying than her

when she's speak they treat her like an adult
YOU HAVE TO LISTEN GUYS SHES MATURE N SHIIIEEETT

but if you talk back
SHES A KID DONT BE MEAN

it's like every idiot and the star wars sequels
GUYS ITS THE BEST MOVIE OF ALL TIME AND IF YOU DONT LIKE IT YOU HATE WAMMYNS AND BLACKS
GUYS ITS JUST MOVIES ABOUT SPACE WIZARDS LOL
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Its because they have to have a shield against criticism and teens and children are the best way to do that. If you put yourself out there, expect to be criticized.
 
Doing this to a child is child abuse. Thats all there is too it. I'm certain her parents have that beauty pageant mom shit going on
 
I too, feel sorry for her and her sister. I watched Null's stream and it's abundantly clear that the mom is using them to get attention for herself. Munchhausen's without the medical, basically.

Powerleveling here but it's relevant-
I'm a female autist. Speaking from literal experience I can guarantee you that Greta is not only being heavily coached in everything she says- (would not be surprised if she gets an earpiece with lines fed to her) but is also being carrot-sticked to do any of this. At 16, she doesn't give a shit about the environment, she's having weekly breakdowns over why she can't be like the other girls or the teens she sees in media. She's being bribed with whatever she wants to make all these appearances and be gawked at by people- example: "We'll go to Disney World if you read this speech at the Capitol", "We'll go to the store and you can buy all the My Little Ponies you want after you attend this meeting and wave to the camera". She absolutely does not run her twitter account, it'd look like Chris Chan's if she did. She likely has no idea what half or more of the sexual things and threats being said/made about her even mean.

Both she and her sister will never be able to have any sort of normal life. Null is absolutely right- she's going to kill herself because of all this, and the fingers will point everywhere but where they matter- her mother. It's utterly disgusting.
 
There's no point in bemoaning the tragedy of Greta being turned into what she is, upon further reflection. It won't help her. It won't make this stop. Nothing will make this stop because no one is both inclined and able to break her mother's grasp on Greta's mind. This is the pinnacle of spectacle and people are lapping it up like it's the cure for all their ills.

Welcome to the brave new world. We have made such fantastic advances and along the way we apparently lost our humanity and decency.
 
Homoerotic Cougar-kun said:
There's no point in bemoaning the tragedy of Greta being turned into what she is, upon further reflection. It won't help her. It won't make this stop. Nothing will make this stop because no one is both inclined and able to break her mother's grasp on Greta's mind. This is the pinnacle of spectacle and people are lapping it up like it's the cure for all their ills.

Welcome to the brave new world. We have made such fantastic advances and along the way we apparently lost our humanity and decency.
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All that I know is that her mother and her handlers are all essentially in the same category as child rapists and I hope to god they all burn in hell like them
 
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Adolf Merkel is gonna kill us all because GERMans are actually incapable of believing anyone would ever want to protest their government.
 
Homoerotic Cougar-kun said:
There's no point in bemoaning the tragedy of Greta being turned into what she is, upon further reflection. It won't help her. It won't make this stop. Nothing will make this stop because no one is both inclined and able to break her mother's grasp on Greta's mind. This is the pinnacle of spectacle and people are lapping it up like it's the cure for all their ills.

Welcome to the brave new world. We have made such fantastic advances and along the way we apparently lost our humanity and decency.
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Quite so, and with Sweden's child safety laws the way they are, she'll never escape that psycho's grasp either.
 
Positron said:
Speaking of that infamous photo, her fans sounds like Peter "It's Never The Consumer's Fault" Coffin:
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This batch of cunts is pathetic and they're exactly the problem. They point their fingers at anyone but themselves. The comparison to that piece of absolute shit Peter Coffin is completely apt.
 
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