Science Greta Thunberg Megathread - Dax Herrera says he wouldn't have a day ago (I somewhat doubt that)

Why is Greta Thunberg so triggering? How can a 16-year-old girl in plaits, who has dedicated herself to the not-exactly sinister, authoritarian plot of trying to save the planet from extinction, inspire such incandescent rage?

Last week, she tweeted that she had arrived into New York after her two week transatlantic voyage: “Finally here. Thank you everyone who came to see me off in Plymouth, and everyone who welcomed me in New York! Now I’m going to rest for a few days, and on Friday I’m going to participate in the strike outside the UN”, before promptly giving a press conference in English. Yes, her second language.

Her remarks were immediately greeted with a barrage of jibes about virtue signalling, and snide remarks about the three crew members who will have to fly out to take the yacht home.

This shouldn’t need to be spelled out, but as some people don’t seem to have grasped it yet, we’ll give it a lash: Thunberg’s trip was an act of protest, not a sacred commandment or an instruction manual for the rest of us. Like all acts of protest, it was designed to be symbolic and provocative. For those who missed the point – and oh, how they missed the point – she retweeted someone else’s “friendly reminder” that: “You don’t need to spend two weeks on a boat to do your part to avert our climate emergency. You just need to do everything you can, with everyone you can, to change everything you can.”

Part of the reason she inspires such rage, of course, is blindingly obvious. Climate change is terrifying. The Amazon is burning. So too is the Savannah. Parts of the Arctic are on fire. Sea levels are rising. There are more vicious storms and wildfires and droughts and floods. Denial is easier than confronting the terrifying truth.

Then there’s the fact that we don’t like being made to feel bad about our life choices. That’s human nature. It’s why we sneer at vegans. It’s why we’re suspicious of sober people at parties. And if anything is likely to make you feel bad about your life choices -- as you jet back home after your third Ryanair European minibreak this season – it’ll be the sight of small-boned child subjecting herself to a fortnight being tossed about on the Atlantic, with only a bucket bearing a “Poo Only Please” sign by way of luxury, in order to make a point about climate change.

But that’s not virtue signalling, which anyone can indulge in. As Meghan Markle, Prince Harry, and their-four-private-jets-in-11-days found recently, virtue practising is a lot harder.

Even for someone who spends a lot of time on Twitter, some of the criticism levelled at Thunberg is astonishing. It is, simultaneously, the most vicious and the most fatuous kind of playground bullying. The Australian conservative climate change denier Andrew Bolt called her “deeply disturbed” and “freakishly influential” (the use of “freakish”, we can assume, was not incidental.) The former UKIP funder, Arron Banks, tweeted “Freaking yacht accidents do happen in August” (as above.) Brendan O’Neill of Spiked called her a “millenarian weirdo” (nope, still not incidental) in a piece that referred nastily to her “monotone voice” and “the look of apocalyptic dread in her eyes”.

But who’s the real freak – the activist whose determination has single-handedly started a powerful global movement for change, or the middle-aged man taunting a child with Asperger syndrome from behind the safety of their computer screens?

And that, of course, is the real reason why Greta Thunberg is so triggering. They can’t admit it even to themselves, so they ridicule her instead. But the truth is that they’re afraid of her. The poor dears are terrified of her as an individual, and of what she stands for – youth, determination, change.

She is part of a generation who won’t be cowed. She isn’t about to be shamed into submission by trolls. That’s not actually a look of apocalyptic dread in her eyes. It’s a look that says “you’re not relevant”.

The reason they taunt her with childish insults is because that’s all they’ve got. They’re out of ideas. They can’t dismantle her arguments, because she has science – and David Attenborough – on her side. They can’t win the debate with the persuasive force of their arguments, because these bargain bin cranks trade in jaded cynicism, not youthful passion. They can harangue her with snide tweets and hot take blogposts, but they won’t get a reaction because, frankly, she has bigger worries on her mind.

That’s not to say that we should accept everything Thunberg says without question. She is an idealist who is young enough to see the world in black and white. We need voices like hers. We should listen to what she has to say, without tuning the more moderate voices of dissent out.

Why is Greta Thunberg so triggering? Because of what she represents. In an age when democracy is under assault, she hints at the emergency of new kind of power, a convergence of youth, popular protest and irrefutable science. And for her loudest detractors, she also represents something else: the sight of their impending obsolescence hurtling towards them.

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https://web.archive.org/web/2019090...certain-men-1.4002264?localLinksEnabled=false
Found this thought-provoking indeed.

 

[Freddy Freaker]

I love that Hogg is basically forgotten at this point.

It's only a matter of time until he's caught doing gay porn now.

David Hogg in: Squeal Like a Piggy. Can this activist Twink for Tomorrow handle 7 big, black ASSault rifles at once?

 

[NOT Sword Fighter Super]

She really doesn't look like an average 16 year old, her vegan diet is probably partly to blame.
Does this look like a healthy 16 year old girl?

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Shes 16 but her chest is as flat as a 10 year old. Are we sure she's a true and honest girl?

 

[TheJelqster]

Thunberg needs a good batista bomb at this point.

 

[Dynastier]

Shes 16 but her chest is as flat as a 10 year old. Are we sure she's a true and honest girl?

She's a 16 year old girl with birth defects and developmental disorders, on top of being incredibly malnourished.

 

[vertexwindi]

Nah, nobody's getting triggered by an autistic child. She's the puppet of climate change activists and will get bored in a few years and find something else to obsess over, like Lego.

She's also gone and changed the description on her Twitter account to the famous "very young child looking forward to a bright and wonderful future" quote. Heh.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Triggered by a little girl in pigtails being turned into a handpuppet for ecopolitics, I think.

Triggered by a little girl being callously used as a pawn by major corporations

 

[DidYouJustSayThat]

Copied from a youtube comment under a Greta video verbatim:

backed by Luisa-Marie Neubauer of the influential Reemtsma family PR Handler Ingmar Rentzhog Greta has a very professional publicity team. As for greta, she doesn't actually care about the environment. The organization she does PR for (We Dont Have Time) is trying to make bank from carbon credit trading. Their 2-step business model* involves: 1) passing legislation to create a cap-and-trade marketplace 2) building a social media/rating system to evaluate public and private sector entities on their carbon footprint. Those who rate poorly will have to choose between getting carbon-taxed to death, or paying for carbon-offset credits. their promotional video: @ Since Greta's handlers will control both the carbon credit market AND the social media that ranks everyone, they'll always win and can do shakedown operations whenever they want. @t *This scheme only works on liberal Western democracies. Countries like China or India would just laugh Greta out of the building.

 

[NOT Sword Fighter Super]

She really doesn't look like an average 16 year old, her vegan diet is probably partly to blame.
Does this look like a healthy 16 year old girl?

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Shes 16 but her chest is as flat as a 10 year old. Are we sure she's a true and honest girl?

 

[TerribleIdeas™]

Have sex.

I'll have to get your moms' number off the truckstop shitter wall. Again.

Because they don't want a workable solution. They want their solution. The one that curtails consumption, reduces production, cripples trade, and makes most economic aspects of modern society untenable. All in favor of energy impoverished feudal serfdom where all of us peasants are incredibly limited in what and how we consume because of heavy restrictions on energy production. All ran and controlled by them, our betters, the eco-gatekeepers.

Workable solutions that allow things to continue mostly as they are throw a monkey wrench into the works. They want people in restrictive teeny-tiny energy boxes. Hence why their on-paper fantasy energy plans are always really heavy on "conservation" (read: stop doing shit we are doing now) and light on "making shit work as it did before".

>Eat bugs. Or people. Or starve. Whatever.
>Stop having children
>Live in this $2000/mo, 500sq ft subdivided seacan
>Take approved, poorly designed public transit
>Support the abusive schemes of ride-share companies, because we're pricing cars out of the reach of the common people
>Use these shitty paper straws, and say goodbye to all single-use plastic
>Participate in a service-based, all-subscription, entirely digital economy, where you own nothing, and can have it all taken away instantly.
>Don't wrongthink, or we'll tell the banks and financial service providers to yeet you.

What bothers me the most about this is the fact that it is literally accomplishes nothing. you get a poor downy girl to get up and yell at the U.N and literally nothing happens. Western Europe is introducing policies to be more environmentally conscious what else do you want from them? The U.S pretends to care about the environment but actually introducing green policies would be going against the status quo and scares our politicians. Poor ass Asian and African countries cant do anything about it because their infant mortality rate is still 10%. And it ends up being grandstanding to an audience you know can't or dosen't want to do anything about it.

You know what's really funny? A bunch of leftist adults got jealous that all the kids got to skip school, so they had a bunch of Shutdown protests of their own, interrupting traffic, which left people idling their cars in traffic, and business to lose money because they were paying overhead to light and climate control their offices, with zero return on the investment.

And they dumped glitter everywhere, while twerking in the streets, because that's somehow "protesting", now.

https://twitter.com/Strikebot9/status/1176170205141196801?s=20
https://twitter.com/SweeneyABC/status/1176135848045285378?s=20
https://twitter.com/DevynFromOregon/status/1176120557047296000?s=20

Bets on how long it takes for this Carlos Maza wannabe to be outed as some kind of deviant lolcow, in his own right?

 

[neverendingmidi]

And they dumped glitter everywhere, while twerking in the streets, because that's somehow "protesting", now.

https://twitter.com/Strikebot9/status/1176170205141196801?s=20
https://twitter.com/SweeneyABC/status/1176135848045285378?s=20
https://twitter.com/DevynFromOregon/status/1176120557047296000?s=20

Holy shit. You're telling me the ones screeching about microplastics in the environment, deliberately released a fuckload of them for funzies?

Congrats, the environmentalists have made me care so little about the environment I think I'll go set a stack of tires on fire after pouring bleach on a vulnerable tropic reef.

 

[Tour of Italy]

Lets ignore any discussion about her sincerity, or the people backing her. Let’s be charitable and assume she’s just a well-intentioned, motivated activist. If that’s the case, there’s nothing wrong with that, and it’s miles more than what most people are willing to achieve.

The thing that makes the situation seem fucked to me is how her message it’s being propogated. It’s not being used to elevate discussion on the climate, it’s being used to build panic, urgency and mindless devotion to the current orthodoxy of “solutions”. It’s being used to build a case for empowering the institutions she’s addressing to a dangerous degree.

People are treating her message as an excuse to oversimplify an unimaginably complex problem into an emotional appeal, without thinking about the consequences. It’s politics as usual, and some people are just being asshole about it, but I wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss anyone wanting to peel back the bullshit as just being butthurt about a little blonde girl.

 

[SiccDicc]

I'm just here to mention that I think she looks like Bean from Even Stevens.




Agree? Y/N?

 

[TerribleIdeas™]

Holy shit. You're telling me the ones screeching about microplastics in the environment, deliberately released a fuckload of them for funzies?

Congrats, the environmentalists have made me care so little about the environment I think I'll go set a stack of tires on fire after pouring bleach on a vulnerable tropic reef.

I don't remember which "Climate Shutdown" protest march it was, but one of them literally had an overturned dumpster set on fire in the middle of an intersection.

Keep in mind, the most useful faggot in this whole "Climate Crisis" situation has been Scott Pressler, who's organized TWO MASSIVE VOLUNTEER GHETTO CLEANUPS. It isn't the twerking tool in the booty shorts, that's for goddamned sure.

After Trump’s tweets, conservative activist leads neighborhood cleanup in West Baltimore

Scott Presler, a pro-Trump activist who lives in northern Virginia, started a Baltimore cleanup with a series of tweets after President Donald Trump's comments about the city and Rep. Elijah Cummings.

www.baltimoresun.com

Conservative Activists Clean Up 50 TONS Of Garbage In Liberal Los Angeles; Media Silent

In August, a group of Trump supporters led by conservative activist Scott Presler went to West Baltimore for a massive clean-up operation following tweets sent by President Donald Trump highlighting the dire conditions in the area. Keeping to his promises, Presler has since led clean-up efforts...

www.dailywire.com

 

[Captain Ahab]

Shes 16 but her chest is as flat as a 10 year old. Are we sure she's a true and honest girl?

Looks like the global elites have finally managed to breed a permanent loli.

 

[Positron]

carbon credit trading

Ah, the 21st-century counterpart to indulgence.

This scheme only works on liberal Western democracies. Countries like China or India would just laugh Greta out of the building.

You can only sell indulgence to people who already consider themselves sinners.

 

[Freddy Freaker]

Looks like the global elites have finally managed to breed a permanent loli.

So the Illuminati are trying to make Dokuro-chan real?

 

[FierceBrosnan]

Don't know if this has been posted yet and I don't care. Have this massive fucking copypasta fresh from the pot.



greta thunberg needs to get fucked

imagine being in alabama with this preachy prissy mumble munchkin

you pull up to the candlewood suites in a fucking dodge challenger with aftermarket headers and parts that get you 11 miles per gallon

one rev of the engine and she's already getting inexplicably moist in her room from the sound of your massive fuel-guzzling V8 roadboat

you get out and take a minibike running on a lawnmower engine through the parking lot and into the lobby of the hotel because FUCK walking, we didn't invent internal combustion to scuttle around with our dicks on our hands

moonwalk down the hallway to the elevator while turning every thermostat you see on full blast and spraying CFC-saturated aerosol air fresheners everywhere

check your phone in the elevator and hit up your broker app really quick to buy a thousand more shares of exxon, bp, and shell stocks while shorting anything that has to do with solar and wind because solar panels look fucking gay and windmills are for dipshits

reach greta's floor, backflip into her door, breaking that shit down and sending splinters flying everywhere setting off fucking car alarms and barking dogs

her primal scandinavian woman survival instinct kicks in and she immediately presents herself to you from all the viking raping and pillaging burned into her nordic DNA

you put a plastic non-biodegradable bag from walmart over her muppet face, set a cooked rack of barbecue ribs on the small of her back, and go to town, throwing the cleaned rib bones at the back of her stupid cantaloupe head in between thrusts

after blowing your load and covering the room in non-vegan protein, you wipe your monolithic dong on her priceless handmade native american uber-sustainable fairtrade honestly sourced hippie sweater

jump out the fucking window into a formula 1 race car and cover the hotel in black rubber as you burn out and blaze off into another american night

global warm deez nuts, bitch

 

[Sīn the Moon Daddy]

She's a 16 year old girl with birth defects and developmental disorders, on top of being incredibly malnourished.

Did you see the picture of AOC towering over this girl? AOC is 5'4

 

[NOT Sword Fighter Super]

...Since when is anyone suspicious of sober people at parties? I usually only have one drink at most, never been an issue. What the fuck is this woman smoking?

Tbh the brief period where I didn't drink at all I noticed some people would get downright aggressively annoyed with me for it.

I even had one person tell me something like "you not drinking makes me feel bad for doing it". Granted, it was a small minority of people who made a big deal about it, but they're still out there.

 

[TerribleIdeas™]

Don't know if this has been posted yet and I don't care. Have this massive fucking copypasta fresh from the pot.



greta thunberg needs to get fucked

imagine being in alabama with this preachy prissy mumble munchkin

you pull up to the candlewood suites in a fucking dodge challenger with aftermarket headers and parts that get you 11 miles per gallon

one rev of the engine and she's already getting inexplicably moist in her room from the sound of your massive fuel-guzzling V8 roadboat

you get out and take a minibike running on a lawnmower engine through the parking lot and into the lobby of the hotel because FUCK walking, we didn't invent internal combustion to scuttle around with our dicks on our hands

moonwalk down the hallway to the elevator while turning every thermostat you see on full blast and spraying CFC-saturated aerosol air fresheners everywhere

check your phone in the elevator and hit up your broker app really quick to buy a thousand more shares of exxon, bp, and shell stocks while shorting anything that has to do with solar and wind because solar panels look fucking gay and windmills are for dipshits

reach greta's floor, backflip into her door, breaking that shit down and sending splinters flying everywhere setting off fucking car alarms and barking dogs

her primal scandinavian woman survival instinct kicks in and she immediately presents herself to you from all the viking raping and pillaging burned into her nordic DNA

you put a plastic non-biodegradable bag from walmart over her muppet face, set a cooked rack of barbecue ribs on the small of her back, and go to town, throwing the cleaned rib bones at the back of her stupid cantaloupe head in between thrusts

after blowing your load and covering the room in non-vegan protein, you wipe your monolithic dong on her priceless handmade native american uber-sustainable fairtrade honestly sourced hippie sweater

jump out the fucking window into a formula 1 race car and cover the hotel in black rubber as you burn out and blaze off into another american night

global warm deez nuts, bitch

There's gotta be a couple lines in there worth picking for random toptext, @Null.