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Why is Greta Thunberg so triggering? How can a 16-year-old girl in plaits, who has dedicated herself to the not-exactly sinister, authoritarian plot of trying to save the planet from extinction, inspire such incandescent rage?

Last week, she tweeted that she had arrived into New York after her two week transatlantic voyage: “Finally here. Thank you everyone who came to see me off in Plymouth, and everyone who welcomed me in New York! Now I’m going to rest for a few days, and on Friday I’m going to participate in the strike outside the UN”, before promptly giving a press conference in English. Yes, her second language.

Her remarks were immediately greeted with a barrage of jibes about virtue signalling, and snide remarks about the three crew members who will have to fly out to take the yacht home.

This shouldn’t need to be spelled out, but as some people don’t seem to have grasped it yet, we’ll give it a lash: Thunberg’s trip was an act of protest, not a sacred commandment or an instruction manual for the rest of us. Like all acts of protest, it was designed to be symbolic and provocative. For those who missed the point – and oh, how they missed the point – she retweeted someone else’s “friendly reminder” that: “You don’t need to spend two weeks on a boat to do your part to avert our climate emergency. You just need to do everything you can, with everyone you can, to change everything you can.”

Part of the reason she inspires such rage, of course, is blindingly obvious. Climate change is terrifying. The Amazon is burning. So too is the Savannah. Parts of the Arctic are on fire. Sea levels are rising. There are more vicious storms and wildfires and droughts and floods. Denial is easier than confronting the terrifying truth.

Then there’s the fact that we don’t like being made to feel bad about our life choices. That’s human nature. It’s why we sneer at vegans. It’s why we’re suspicious of sober people at parties. And if anything is likely to make you feel bad about your life choices -- as you jet back home after your third Ryanair European minibreak this season – it’ll be the sight of small-boned child subjecting herself to a fortnight being tossed about on the Atlantic, with only a bucket bearing a “Poo Only Please” sign by way of luxury, in order to make a point about climate change.

But that’s not virtue signalling, which anyone can indulge in. As Meghan Markle, Prince Harry, and their-four-private-jets-in-11-days found recently, virtue practising is a lot harder.

Even for someone who spends a lot of time on Twitter, some of the criticism levelled at Thunberg is astonishing. It is, simultaneously, the most vicious and the most fatuous kind of playground bullying. The Australian conservative climate change denier Andrew Bolt called her “deeply disturbed” and “freakishly influential” (the use of “freakish”, we can assume, was not incidental.) The former UKIP funder, Arron Banks, tweeted “Freaking yacht accidents do happen in August” (as above.) Brendan O’Neill of Spiked called her a “millenarian weirdo” (nope, still not incidental) in a piece that referred nastily to her “monotone voice” and “the look of apocalyptic dread in her eyes”.

But who’s the real freak – the activist whose determination has single-handedly started a powerful global movement for change, or the middle-aged man taunting a child with Asperger syndrome from behind the safety of their computer screens?

And that, of course, is the real reason why Greta Thunberg is so triggering. They can’t admit it even to themselves, so they ridicule her instead. But the truth is that they’re afraid of her. The poor dears are terrified of her as an individual, and of what she stands for – youth, determination, change.

She is part of a generation who won’t be cowed. She isn’t about to be shamed into submission by trolls. That’s not actually a look of apocalyptic dread in her eyes. It’s a look that says “you’re not relevant”.

The reason they taunt her with childish insults is because that’s all they’ve got. They’re out of ideas. They can’t dismantle her arguments, because she has science – and David Attenborough – on her side. They can’t win the debate with the persuasive force of their arguments, because these bargain bin cranks trade in jaded cynicism, not youthful passion. They can harangue her with snide tweets and hot take blogposts, but they won’t get a reaction because, frankly, she has bigger worries on her mind.

That’s not to say that we should accept everything Thunberg says without question. She is an idealist who is young enough to see the world in black and white. We need voices like hers. We should listen to what she has to say, without tuning the more moderate voices of dissent out.

Why is Greta Thunberg so triggering? Because of what she represents. In an age when democracy is under assault, she hints at the emergency of new kind of power, a convergence of youth, popular protest and irrefutable science. And for her loudest detractors, she also represents something else: the sight of their impending obsolescence hurtling towards them.

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IAmNotAlpharius said:
Anyone that steps into the political sphere should expect to be mocked and harassed. It doesn’t matter if she was supporting a right or left wing cause.



She looks like a 12 year old because she doesn’t eat.
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There was a period during which she starved herself as the despair inherent to her handler's teachings took hold. Supposedly this shit is the only reason she's not suicidal anymore. They drove a girl nearly to suicide to use her as a hollowed-out vessel for their ideology.
 
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Jarolleon said:
In the other dimension Fox News & co. are propping up Soph and airing her bits on national TV.
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Then there's nowhere to run...

Just let kids be kids for fucks sake. At least soph has a chance to be forgotten, since it's just a yt channel.
 
Jarolleon said:
There was a period during which she starved herself as the despair which her handler's teachings took hold. Supposedly this shit is the only reason she's not suicidal anymore. They drove a girl nearly to suicide to use her as a hollowed-out vessel for their ideology.
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I didn’t know wether to rate that informative or horrifying. What awful people...
 
Was mentioned at the beginning of this thread, but here's a video of her saying "I want you to feel the fear I feel". Totally not authoritarian at all.

Does someone have a video compilation of her 'sperging out? There was this good vid I saw on Twitter that was her being all twitchy after handing off the mic but I can't seem to find it. Her FAS face is like an angler's lure leading me to my doom. I can't look away.
 
Literally who? Yet there's a six page thread already after being posted yesterday.

Am I finally entering boomer dementia or are y'all making a mountain over a molehill.
 
I don’t know why anyone cares what she does but she looks developmentally delayed beyond the autism.
 
Corm said:
@ATaxingWoman might know more about this "lolkor", since they apparently talk about her in the Swedish language thread and she used to be their avatar.
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The biggest lolcow in this case isn't really Greta herself as much as her parents and the other adults surrounding her. @Smaug's Smokey Hole wrote a pretty good summary here (except that the main author of Scenes from the heart was the mother, not the father), and if you can stomach Google Translate's potato English, the Swedish blogger Rebecca Weidmo Uvell has written multiple good blog posts detailing the circus surrounding Greta Thunberg.

(Language side note: "lolkor" is the plural form. The singular form is "lolko")
 
One thing I don't understand is where do these people even find all of these children? I sometimes think some asshole rich person has a breeding pit for children that they pull them out of whenever you need a child to talk about "The Real Issues" to only throw them away when they are too old or their 15 seconds of fame is up. I get angry from this as this isn't the girl that makes me angry, it is the puppeteer who I have sheer piss-boiling rage at.
 
Kyria the Great said:
One thing I don't understand is where do these people even find all of these children? I sometimes think some asshole rich person has a breeding pit for children that they pull them out of whenever you need a child to talk about "The Real Issues" to only throw them away when they are too old or their 15 seconds of fame is up. I get angry from this as this isn't the girl that makes me angry, it is the puppeteer who I have sheer piss-boiling rage at.
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Malena Ernman (Her mother) is (in)famous in Sweden, as in, she's a celebrity. Before she started whoring out her kids she was one of the loudest celebrities in the whole "Refugees Welcome" shit. However, this has also burned her career as only the media/establishment now like her. In households, however, she is largely regarded as a complete cunt due to the severe backlash against immigration. We're talking about a celebrity that didn't hide her disgust for anyone who complained about all of the problems.

So they found the kid essentially through the mother who hired a PR firm and all. It's actually not "surprising" that it's Greta of all kids. Loony mum, a dad who seems like a complete weirdo and they're in the upper crust and politically involved. Makes sense, in a way.

Interestingly enough, I never hear jack-shit about the other daughter that she is using as a prop on musical tours.
 
Krimjob said:
Malena Ernman (Her mother) is (in)famous in Sweden, as in, she's a celebrity. Before she started whoring out her kids she was one of the loudest celebrities in the whole "Refugees Welcome" shit. However, this has also burned her career as only the media/establishment now like her. In households, however, she is largely regarded as a complete cunt due to the severe backlash against immigration. We're talking about a celebrity that didn't hide her disgust for anyone who complained about all of the problems.

So they found the kid essentially through the mother who hired a PR firm and all. It's actually not "surprising" that it's Greta of all kids. Loony mum, a dad who seems like a complete weirdo and they're in the upper crust and politically involved. Makes sense, in a way.

Interestingly enough, I never hear jack-shit about the other daughter that she is using as a prop on musical tours.
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Beata Thunberg Ernman only started receiving a tiny bit of attention after her big sister did. She performed a song on Malou After Tio a few months ago so it's probably only a matter of time before their parents start trying to actively make big bucks off of her as well.

On another note: it's not that weird that both Greta and her sister look much younger than they are considering that their father basically looks like an adult baby:
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ATaxingWoman said:
Beata Thunberg Ernman only started receiving a tiny bit of attention after her big sister did. She performed a song on Malou After Tio a few months ago so it's probably only a matter of time before their parents start trying to actively make big bucks off of her as well.

On another note: it's not that weird that both Greta and her sister look much younger than they are considering that their father basically looks like an adult baby:
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Holy shit, Malena ain't even 50 yet. I guess carrying the weight of the world on your deluded pseudo-socialist shoulders makes you age at warp speed.
 
rocknrollmartian said:
Holy shit, Malena ain't even 50 yet. I guess carrying the weight of the world on your deluded pseudo-socialist shoulders makes you age at warp speed.
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When every single thing you encounter is a problem, every person not exactly like you a devil, and the world is dying all around you by simply existing, is it any wonder your average activist has enough stress to even wrinkle their bones?
 
TowinKarz said:
When every single thing you encounter is a problem, every person not exactly like you a devil, and the world is dying all around you by simply existing, is it any wonder your average activist has enough stress to even wrinkle their bones?
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Yep. I'm sure pretending to care for social media kudos is rather aging as well.
 
And if anything is likely to make you feel bad about your life choices -- as you jet back home after your third Ryanair European minibreak this season
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Uh, author. I think you might be projecting a wee bit here.
 
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