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Why is Greta Thunberg so triggering? How can a 16-year-old girl in plaits, who has dedicated herself to the not-exactly sinister, authoritarian plot of trying to save the planet from extinction, inspire such incandescent rage?

Last week, she tweeted that she had arrived into New York after her two week transatlantic voyage: “Finally here. Thank you everyone who came to see me off in Plymouth, and everyone who welcomed me in New York! Now I’m going to rest for a few days, and on Friday I’m going to participate in the strike outside the UN”, before promptly giving a press conference in English. Yes, her second language.

Her remarks were immediately greeted with a barrage of jibes about virtue signalling, and snide remarks about the three crew members who will have to fly out to take the yacht home.

This shouldn’t need to be spelled out, but as some people don’t seem to have grasped it yet, we’ll give it a lash: Thunberg’s trip was an act of protest, not a sacred commandment or an instruction manual for the rest of us. Like all acts of protest, it was designed to be symbolic and provocative. For those who missed the point – and oh, how they missed the point – she retweeted someone else’s “friendly reminder” that: “You don’t need to spend two weeks on a boat to do your part to avert our climate emergency. You just need to do everything you can, with everyone you can, to change everything you can.”

Part of the reason she inspires such rage, of course, is blindingly obvious. Climate change is terrifying. The Amazon is burning. So too is the Savannah. Parts of the Arctic are on fire. Sea levels are rising. There are more vicious storms and wildfires and droughts and floods. Denial is easier than confronting the terrifying truth.

Then there’s the fact that we don’t like being made to feel bad about our life choices. That’s human nature. It’s why we sneer at vegans. It’s why we’re suspicious of sober people at parties. And if anything is likely to make you feel bad about your life choices -- as you jet back home after your third Ryanair European minibreak this season – it’ll be the sight of small-boned child subjecting herself to a fortnight being tossed about on the Atlantic, with only a bucket bearing a “Poo Only Please” sign by way of luxury, in order to make a point about climate change.

But that’s not virtue signalling, which anyone can indulge in. As Meghan Markle, Prince Harry, and their-four-private-jets-in-11-days found recently, virtue practising is a lot harder.

Even for someone who spends a lot of time on Twitter, some of the criticism levelled at Thunberg is astonishing. It is, simultaneously, the most vicious and the most fatuous kind of playground bullying. The Australian conservative climate change denier Andrew Bolt called her “deeply disturbed” and “freakishly influential” (the use of “freakish”, we can assume, was not incidental.) The former UKIP funder, Arron Banks, tweeted “Freaking yacht accidents do happen in August” (as above.) Brendan O’Neill of Spiked called her a “millenarian weirdo” (nope, still not incidental) in a piece that referred nastily to her “monotone voice” and “the look of apocalyptic dread in her eyes”.

But who’s the real freak – the activist whose determination has single-handedly started a powerful global movement for change, or the middle-aged man taunting a child with Asperger syndrome from behind the safety of their computer screens?

And that, of course, is the real reason why Greta Thunberg is so triggering. They can’t admit it even to themselves, so they ridicule her instead. But the truth is that they’re afraid of her. The poor dears are terrified of her as an individual, and of what she stands for – youth, determination, change.

She is part of a generation who won’t be cowed. She isn’t about to be shamed into submission by trolls. That’s not actually a look of apocalyptic dread in her eyes. It’s a look that says “you’re not relevant”.

The reason they taunt her with childish insults is because that’s all they’ve got. They’re out of ideas. They can’t dismantle her arguments, because she has science – and David Attenborough – on her side. They can’t win the debate with the persuasive force of their arguments, because these bargain bin cranks trade in jaded cynicism, not youthful passion. They can harangue her with snide tweets and hot take blogposts, but they won’t get a reaction because, frankly, she has bigger worries on her mind.

That’s not to say that we should accept everything Thunberg says without question. She is an idealist who is young enough to see the world in black and white. We need voices like hers. We should listen to what she has to say, without tuning the more moderate voices of dissent out.

Why is Greta Thunberg so triggering? Because of what she represents. In an age when democracy is under assault, she hints at the emergency of new kind of power, a convergence of youth, popular protest and irrefutable science. And for her loudest detractors, she also represents something else: the sight of their impending obsolescence hurtling towards them.

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Found this thought-provoking indeed.
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Übertroon said:
I think the octopus thing stems from a single old caricature, it's really reaching
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It's definitely not just a single old caricature. Using an octopus in propaganda to show that "<enemy> has the world in its grasp" is an old trope. It's been done about Jews a lot, yes:

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And communists:

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And even the Nazis:

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And /pol/ embraced it:

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IIRC, there was a design submitted to the Kiwifarms patch run that had the same motif as well, but it wasn't picked. Or maybe it was for some different merch, I can't remember now, but it was similar to the /pol/ patch.
 
Eternal Gopnik said:
And /pol/ embraced it:
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The origin of the pol meme is a legit glownigger mission patch:
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https://twitter.com/ODNIgov/status/408712553179533312 (archive.ph)
NROL-39 is represented by the octopus, a versatile, adaptable, and highly intelligent creature. Emblematically, enemies of the United States can be reached no matter where they choose to hide. 'Nothing is beyond our reach' defines this mission and the value it brings to our nation and the warfighters it supports, who serve valiantly all over the globe, protecting our nation
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA-247 (archive.ph)
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Climate activist Greta Thunberg was arrested by police during a protest outside an oil and gas conference in London.

This is not the first time Thunberg has been detained at a protest, as she has previously been detained in Norway, Sweden, and Germany.

During the protest, Thunberg criticized those in power for their role in climate change and their focus on profits.

The Swedish climate activist was one of over two dozen charged, who collectively attempted to block access to the InterContinental Hotel.

Thunberg said, “It is not a coincidence that we are speeding in the wrong direction.”

“The people in power are knowingly leading us to the end of the precipice,” she continued.

The 20-year-old Swede then accused those “people in power” of “squeezing out profits from a dying planet.”

“The elite of the oil and money conference, they have no intention of transition,” she said. “Their plan is to continue this destructive search of profits.”

“We cannot let this continue,” Thunberg declared.

Local law enforcement eventually moved the protest to a less-crowded area and mentioned that 20 people had been arrested, although it is unclear if Thunberg was among them.

Despite her frequent detainments, Thunberg has not faced any significant legal consequences for her activism.
 
mlanguishi said:
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During the protest, Thunberg criticized those in power for their role in climate change and their focus on profits.
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So, she was standing in front of a mirror, then?

And thought she was actually dressing down some CEO's alcoholic wife?

Seriously, that face looks like the kind you get if you knock on a trailer door at 2am around here.
 
clipartfan92 said:
From the London arrest. She's not very photogenic.
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Police officers detain Swedish climate campaigner Greta Thunberg, during an Oily Money Out and Fossil Free London protest in London, Britain, October 17, 2023. REUTERS/Toby Melville
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Huh, went from looking like a retarded 8 year old, to a retarded 40 year old.
 
They claim the octopus is how autists convey emotions.
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Echoing @Ralph Barnhardt in the MovieBob thread: the overgrown potato had no problem expressing her autistic displeasure in front of the world's leaders, why does she suddenly need a emotion-expression plush?
 
indigoisviolet said:
Nobody gets arrested at these things here in the UK; those photos are entirely performative, and one does have to ask how much money it costs to hire two policemen to pose for photos with you, prominently displaying your NGO's sticker badge?
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It was really stupid. She literally stood in the door of the police car and looked out without anyone even pretending to be bothered. If she just jumped out, I doubt the police would have done anything. She also was back at another protest the very next day. Like in Germany, it was just another photo op.

By the way, I am sure her jacket costs about as much a my rent, but is this early stage crack hobo look trendy right now?
Mikoyan said:
How the fuck is a static puppet supposed to do jack shit for that?!
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It doesn't. It is one of those things the self diagnosed autism-is-my-personality morons on TikTok/Reddit/Twitter came up with to excuse that they like a toy. "It is a sooper valuable tool for my totes real autism you ableist asshole!"
I've worked with completely nonverbal kids and they are usually capable of comunicating good/bad (and if not, the plushie is not going to help, since the faces are just abstract symbols and especially the grumpy face can mean several things).
 
@Quence Greta won't mind China polluting the earth. India, Africa and all the other shitholes can dump their filth into the oceans and choke the skies with smog but it's us naughty white countries living comfortably that make her so very angry!
 
some cunt said:
@Quence Greta won't mind China polluting the earth. India, Africa and all the other shitholes can dump their filth into the oceans and choke the skies with smog but it's us naughty white countries living comfortably that make her so very angry!
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And she herself will pollute our air with exhalations of “How DARE You!” numbering in the millions.
 
Bog-standard Poster said:
You bumped the thread for that? And here's me thinking it was bumped because she was dead or in a porno. Both of which, I can wank to.
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The retarded climate potato will probably live a long and unproductive life of impotently raging against the modern world whilst being feted by all manner of weirdos, perverts, and political hacks that represent the Leftist cult at any given time.
 
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