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Why is Greta Thunberg so triggering? How can a 16-year-old girl in plaits, who has dedicated herself to the not-exactly sinister, authoritarian plot of trying to save the planet from extinction, inspire such incandescent rage?

Last week, she tweeted that she had arrived into New York after her two week transatlantic voyage: “Finally here. Thank you everyone who came to see me off in Plymouth, and everyone who welcomed me in New York! Now I’m going to rest for a few days, and on Friday I’m going to participate in the strike outside the UN”, before promptly giving a press conference in English. Yes, her second language.

Her remarks were immediately greeted with a barrage of jibes about virtue signalling, and snide remarks about the three crew members who will have to fly out to take the yacht home.

This shouldn’t need to be spelled out, but as some people don’t seem to have grasped it yet, we’ll give it a lash: Thunberg’s trip was an act of protest, not a sacred commandment or an instruction manual for the rest of us. Like all acts of protest, it was designed to be symbolic and provocative. For those who missed the point – and oh, how they missed the point – she retweeted someone else’s “friendly reminder” that: “You don’t need to spend two weeks on a boat to do your part to avert our climate emergency. You just need to do everything you can, with everyone you can, to change everything you can.”

Part of the reason she inspires such rage, of course, is blindingly obvious. Climate change is terrifying. The Amazon is burning. So too is the Savannah. Parts of the Arctic are on fire. Sea levels are rising. There are more vicious storms and wildfires and droughts and floods. Denial is easier than confronting the terrifying truth.

Then there’s the fact that we don’t like being made to feel bad about our life choices. That’s human nature. It’s why we sneer at vegans. It’s why we’re suspicious of sober people at parties. And if anything is likely to make you feel bad about your life choices -- as you jet back home after your third Ryanair European minibreak this season – it’ll be the sight of small-boned child subjecting herself to a fortnight being tossed about on the Atlantic, with only a bucket bearing a “Poo Only Please” sign by way of luxury, in order to make a point about climate change.

But that’s not virtue signalling, which anyone can indulge in. As Meghan Markle, Prince Harry, and their-four-private-jets-in-11-days found recently, virtue practising is a lot harder.

Even for someone who spends a lot of time on Twitter, some of the criticism levelled at Thunberg is astonishing. It is, simultaneously, the most vicious and the most fatuous kind of playground bullying. The Australian conservative climate change denier Andrew Bolt called her “deeply disturbed” and “freakishly influential” (the use of “freakish”, we can assume, was not incidental.) The former UKIP funder, Arron Banks, tweeted “Freaking yacht accidents do happen in August” (as above.) Brendan O’Neill of Spiked called her a “millenarian weirdo” (nope, still not incidental) in a piece that referred nastily to her “monotone voice” and “the look of apocalyptic dread in her eyes”.

But who’s the real freak – the activist whose determination has single-handedly started a powerful global movement for change, or the middle-aged man taunting a child with Asperger syndrome from behind the safety of their computer screens?

And that, of course, is the real reason why Greta Thunberg is so triggering. They can’t admit it even to themselves, so they ridicule her instead. But the truth is that they’re afraid of her. The poor dears are terrified of her as an individual, and of what she stands for – youth, determination, change.

She is part of a generation who won’t be cowed. She isn’t about to be shamed into submission by trolls. That’s not actually a look of apocalyptic dread in her eyes. It’s a look that says “you’re not relevant”.

The reason they taunt her with childish insults is because that’s all they’ve got. They’re out of ideas. They can’t dismantle her arguments, because she has science – and David Attenborough – on her side. They can’t win the debate with the persuasive force of their arguments, because these bargain bin cranks trade in jaded cynicism, not youthful passion. They can harangue her with snide tweets and hot take blogposts, but they won’t get a reaction because, frankly, she has bigger worries on her mind.

That’s not to say that we should accept everything Thunberg says without question. She is an idealist who is young enough to see the world in black and white. We need voices like hers. We should listen to what she has to say, without tuning the more moderate voices of dissent out.

Why is Greta Thunberg so triggering? Because of what she represents. In an age when democracy is under assault, she hints at the emergency of new kind of power, a convergence of youth, popular protest and irrefutable science. And for her loudest detractors, she also represents something else: the sight of their impending obsolescence hurtling towards them.

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Found this thought-provoking indeed.
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I know I've sperged out about it in the past, but she's still wearing those blue shoes that don't have laces.
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Thunberg protests in Stockholm on third anniversary of first school strike​

https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...d-anniversary-first-school-strike-2021-08-20/ (https://archive.ph/YciBK)

Teen climate activist Greta Thunberg was back protesting outside the Swedish parliament on Friday, the three-year anniversary of her first school strike which grew into a global, youth-led protest movement.

Thunberg's grassroot initiative caught on around the world, with millions rallying at weekly "Fridays for Future" protests to call on world leaders to listen to scientists about, and act to stop, climate change, and in 2019 the Time magazine named her person of the year.

Thunberg, who took a sabbatical from school in 2019 before starting high school, told Reuters on Friday her movement was far from achieving its goals.

"In one way of course I haven't achieved anything," she told Reuters. "In another way I have made lots of friends within the movement and we have been able to organise mass protests and it feels like more people are starting to wake up and demand change."

Her first protest outside parliament in August 2018 at the age of 15 "felt quite lonely," she said. "But it also felt very good to be actually doing something."

Thunberg was joined on Friday in Stockholm by several fellow activists who travelled from Europe to mark the day.

"We decided to unite today ... to strike together, to plan, to look at what's up next," said activist Luisa Neubauer, 25, from Germany, where general elections are scheduled for Sept. 26.

"I'm also here in the midst of the German election campaign, so that's a big thing. Germany is a huge player, we have a huge responsibility, and right now all players are failing to live up to that responsibility," Neubauer said.

A recent U.N. climate panel report said global warming was dangerously close to spiralling out of control. read more

During her sabbatical year, which she took to advocate her cause full-time, Thunberg gave a speech to world leaders at a U.N. Climate Action Summit.
 

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Yep, still trying to lie and disguise the fact she's an adult.

Exactly what I thought her alkie attention seeking parents and her handlers would do. Hell, given she's doing this to avoid ever having to do any form of work again, she probably is super desperate to pretend to remain helpless too.
 
Oh, I totally forgot to mention that Greta was on the cover of the scandinavian Vogue. I am not going to quote the articles, since it is the same old drivel that she definitely knew what she was doing and that it absolutely wasn't for money, no sir, and how stunning and brave it was that she did it. It almost veers into parody territory at this point.
Here are a few of the photos of Little Miss Speddington in a glossy fashion magazine:
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Oh, I totally forgot to mention that Greta was on the cover of the scandinavian Vogue. I am not going to quote the articles, since it is the same old drivel that she definitely knew what she was doing and that it absolutely wasn't for money, no sir, and how stunning and brave it was that she did it. It almost veers into parody territory at this point.
Here are a few of the photos of Little Miss Speddington in a glossy fashion magazine:
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Look! She's petting a horse! This obviously shows she is in tune with nature or something.
 
"In one way of course I haven't achieved anything," she told Reuters. "In another way I have made lots of friends within the movement and we have been able to organise mass protests and it feels like more people are starting to wake up and demand change."
Maybe Climate Change was the friends we made along the way.
 
Probably the first time she's even seen a horse.
Nah, according to the documentary she owns a horse. Or at least her family does. Because nothing screams "you ruined my childhood" like living a live 90% of her peers can't even dream of.
I just love the concept of being featured in a glossy fashion magazine that depends on the ever revolving door of designers throwing some new shit on the market and clothes going out of style and being thrown away (thereby causing pollution) because of it. You know, for the environment!
I wonder if they let her keep wearing her tard shoes.
 
Oh, I totally forgot to mention that Greta was on the cover of the scandinavian Vogue. I am not going to quote the articles, since it is the same old drivel that she definitely knew what she was doing and that it absolutely wasn't for money, no sir, and how stunning and brave it was that she did it. It almost veers into parody territory at this point.
Here are a few of the photos of Little Miss Speddington in a glossy fashion magazine:
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lol the wonders? Is she performing faith healings and miracles now?
 
Nah, according to the documentary she owns a horse. Or at least her family does. Because nothing screams "you ruined my childhood" like living a live 90% of her peers can't even dream of.
I just love the concept of being featured in a glossy fashion magazine that depends on the ever revolving door of designers throwing some new shit on the market and clothes going out of style and being thrown away (thereby causing pollution) because of it. You know, for the environment!
I wonder if they let her keep wearing her tard shoes.
And 95% and rising of clothing products in general are composed of oil based products or at least contain some sort of petroleum originating substances, none of which can be recycled effectively and all of which will shed particulate into the environment just over normal use. Microplastics are the 'new' hot button issue in green circles and have been hotly debated to at least cause hormonal imbalances upon getting in the bloodstream but I doubt Greta's crew even cares about that.
 
Oh, I totally forgot to mention that Greta was on the cover of the scandinavian Vogue. I am not going to quote the articles, since it is the same old drivel that she definitely knew what she was doing and that it absolutely wasn't for money, no sir, and how stunning and brave it was that she did it. It almost veers into parody territory at this point.
Here are a few of the photos of Little Miss Speddington in a glossy fashion magazine:
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K18yV5NlKKE
Apologies if posted earlier but I found this funny little skit .
 
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