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Disaster Grenfell Tower fire & fallout
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So the usual suspects are coming to play.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ty-fear-day-rage-protest-could-descend-riots/
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/81...demn-Day-of-Rage-protest-Queens-Speech-London
Corbyn and co are pushing for a 'Day of Rage' where loads of far left groups will come to Parliament and shout very loudly to get May to resign.
This is despite the fact that May resigning does not mean that Corbyn gets into power. He does not have the ability to form a majority government. He does not have the ability to do anything without help from every other party in Parliament. Good luck nationalising everything with that sort of problem.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ty-fear-day-rage-protest-could-descend-riots/
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/81...demn-Day-of-Rage-protest-Queens-Speech-London
Corbyn and co are pushing for a 'Day of Rage' where loads of far left groups will come to Parliament and shout very loudly to get May to resign.
This is despite the fact that May resigning does not mean that Corbyn gets into power. He does not have the ability to form a majority government. He does not have the ability to do anything without help from every other party in Parliament. Good luck nationalising everything with that sort of problem.
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When I hear "Day of Rage" what I hear is "Day of Dumb."
How about a "Day of Rationality." Or a "Day of not being a complete fucking idiot."
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Did Corbyn pick up some strategies from the Clinton campaign? Winning even though you lost?
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Clinton at least got three million more votes than Trump. Corbyn lost by 1 million votes. There is no universe where he has the ability to form a government.
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Which is great to watch as even the DUP would rather see democracy itself end in this country than see Corbyn into Number 10. He's 65 seats short of even being level with May's battered Tories. They're working on her apparent weakness as a PM (and reports and tattling in Westminster grows daily, it's not a good sign) there's even signs that Labour are 3% ahead now in opinion polls as every pollster rushes back to their old models which always vastly overstated Labours support because one pollster lucked out this time around.
It's obvious May's a dead duck and her handling of Grenfell has been absolutely crap. She's clearly tone deaf to a lot of situations going on around her due to obsessive micro-managing.
I expect that by autumn we'll have a new PM again and it'll be either David Davis or BoJo. BoJo can reach the "common man" and would've done a lot had he not been locked in a cupboard with everyone else in the cabinet, while Davis has been quietly proving himself quite the statesman in the opening salvos of the Brexit negotiations and has run for the leadership previously (he got through to the final round against David Cameron).
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Johnson won the mayorship in London, a VERY impressive feat for a Conservative. I won't pretend that I like the man, I don't and I see his buffoon act as hiding a cunning mind, but he at least could get voters to come back to the Tories.
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Having a manifesto not made of cyanide would help too.
And written entirely by Boris with all his foibles.
"WHAT HO CHAPS! BORIS BIKES FOR ALL TOWNS AND CITIES BY 2025!"
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Boris is known for Bikes and the Olympics. Ken and Sadiq had terrorist attacks happen on their watches. It's a bit unfortunate for the two of them, but certainly of the three mayors we've had, Boris has come off better.
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That would be the one of the first days that this would ever happen in the history of mankind.
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Where the fuck are they supposed to go?
I know a woman who owns some property, she's having a house built. She and her husband have lived in a mobile home, and were told they couldn't live on the property (which is 3 acres btw) while the house was built. She had to go to court over staying on their mobile home while they built her actual house and claim serious harm ( she does have a number of dogs) to stay there. How the hell can they evict a bunch of low income people assuming they can find housing immediately for shits and giggles?
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I wonder if they'll compensate them for this? They find luxury accommodation for the survivors of Grenfell but these people have to live in shitty temp accommodation for the crime of living in a building that has been poorly maintained by the cheap and money grubbing councils and local governments?
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I don't know. It triples the number of households needing to be relocated. It's not necessarily the wrong move, but it's the kind of thing which normally takes many months - sometimes even years - of extremely careful planning and a lot of consultation with the families being relocated.
I honestly wonder if it's just an excuse to get people out of those blocks. Will they now be sold because some consultant says it will cost too much money to bring them up to scratch and have the displaced families return? It smells an awful lot like they were just waiting for an "acceptable" reason to move those people elsewhere.
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Knowing what a clusterfuck the distribution of publicly raised funds usually ends up being, I think the government funds are all anyone can be guaranteed to receive. It's kind of petty to begrudge them that. They sure as hell didn't move into Grenfell Tower looking for a payday.
Sometimes people benefit financially from tragedy. I'm perfectly OK with that (after all, it's why insurance and compensation exist) as long as they didn't engineer the tragedy - and these people most certainly did not.
It's one year's average income. Nobody's going to be buying a yacht with it. At best, it will buy people some time to reorganise their lives.
I'm not trying to begrudge them at all. I think that payoff is a pittance, I'm angry that this happened and the government thinks they can pay people off, and likely nothing will change.
I don't care if the people were on welfare or they were the wrong kind of people. They were people and they died in a horrifying way, in a first world country.
I'm just angry at everything that allowed this to happen.
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I bet he would have shared the photos all over social media for attention. Maybe try to see them to the media first. I'm sure that an unauthorized person opening a sealed body bag carries some nasty penalty.