Disaster Grenfell Tower fire & fallout

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...ll-tower-block-white-city-latimer-road-london

A fire has broken out in a tower block in west London with reports that people are trapped in their homes.

The fire in the 24-storey Grenfell Tower in Latimer Road in White City started in the early hours of Wednesday morning.

The fire brigade said on Twitter they were responding to a fire on the Lancaster West Estate. Two hundred fire fighters are at the scene along with forty engines that were called at just after 1.15am.

Photographs and video from the scene showed huge flames engulfing most of the block, with lights on in many windows. The tower contains 120 homes.

Witnesses described hearing shouts for help coming from people inside the tower and walls of the building creaking.

Fabio Bebber tweeted from the scene that the fire had taken over most of the block.

The Metropolitan Police said two people were being treated at the scene for smoke inhalation and cordons were in place. Residents in neighbouring streets were being evacuated.

George Clarke, the presenter of Amazing Spaces, lives nearby. He told Radio 5 Live: “I was in bed and heard ‘beep, beep, beep’ and thought, ‘I’ll get up and run downstairs as quickly as I could’.

“I thought it might be a car alarm outside and saw the glow through the windows.

“I’m getting covered in ash, that’s how bad it is. I’m 100 metres away and I’m absolutely covered in ash.

“It’s so heartbreaking, I’ve seen someone flashing their torches at the top level and they obviously can’t get out.

“The guys are doing an incredible job to try and get people out that building, but it’s truly awful.”

The tower block was built in the 1970s as part of the Lancaster West Estate project.
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Someone posted a floor plan of one of the floors of the building. It contained four, 4 bedroom apartments. If multiple floors were the same then there would have been lots of kids living in that building. The bedrooms are furthest away from the central staircase, so trying to get out would have been terrible as soon as visibility was affected (which would have happened quickly).



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There were some interviews on the BBC yesterday evening about how people in high rise flats are scared now, and some of the messages left on the memorial wall are of anger.

This is what the fire wants, to drive a wedge in our society. We should not give the fire what it wants and instead, come together as one. Look at how many fires offer us support and do us good like warm us up on a cold day, or cook our food.

#NotAllFires
 
I find it rather odd that the tower had a fire fighting system that the fire fighters are now currently using to dampen down the smouldering wreck of the building. Yet everyone is complaining about lack of sprinkler systems and such. In such buildings there are designated people who're supposed to be taught how to use said system until the fire service arrives. Makes you wonder what they were doing or whether there were any such people.
 
Ponderous Pillock said:
I find it rather odd that the tower had a fire fighting system that the fire fighters are now currently using to dampen down the smouldering wreck of the building. Yet everyone is complaining about lack of sprinkler systems and such. In such buildings there are designated people who're supposed to be taught how to use said system until the fire service arrives. Makes you wonder what they were doing or whether there were any such people.
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It's 1:30am in the morning and you wake up in a panic about using the sprinkler system when you see that the whole fucking building is on fire

it's not hard to imagine that some of those trained to do this just fucked off outside of the building. Or never woke up before it was too late and died of smoke inhalation in their sleep
 
The owners of this building should be charged with murder. Their actions, corner-cutting and incompetence led to unnecessary death. They are responsible for the deaths of these people.

It won't happen, though.
 
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It's just going to keep going too.

Expect triple figures guys, and hopefully the council gets a swift kicking from the public.
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400-600 total residents. So minimum... 200 I would estimate.
One article I read said that at least 50 people moved to a top corner apartment out of desperation. No one in that building is alive anymore. It will take awhile to get up there.
200 people just died horribly and a lot were children. Now might be a good time to bring back lynch mobs.
 
DerSandstrom said:
The owners of this building should be charged with murder. Their actions, corner-cutting and incompetence led to unnecessary death. They are responsible for the deaths of these people.

It won't happen, though.
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One bit of credit I have to give to China: they execute niggas over this. These assholes will probably just have to change the name of their company.
 
My semi informed opinion is that there is a non-zero possibility of a corporate manslaughter prosecution over this, but we'll need to see what the inquiry digs up.

Unless the inquiry is stayed until after CPS makes a decision on whether or not to prosecute.

The investigation is going to take bloody forever, mind. Fire investigations generally do.
 
Watched the news earlier, the reporter said that identifying the bodies would be extremely difficult and that they may not even be able to identify all of them. Many of these poor people have been cremated in their own homes.

People who've been hospitalized with smoke inhalation have been spitting up black tar, many will have long-lasting and permanent damage caused to their lungs, noses and throats.
 
White City or "North Kensington" as they are calling it, is an area which is prime for gentrification because places like Notting Hill and (Actual)Kensington are way priced out even for upper middle class people.

I'm guessing there are already some "willing" scapegoats to throw the bus for this.
 
They're showing the photos of the missing (and almost certainly dead) on the news just now.

There are so many kids, you guys. So many kids. There are babies.
 
Yeah the point of the cladding in the first place was mostly to prettify the area (dem house prices ain't gonna raise themselves). Basically all local councils in England are massive corrupt scams where the senior management take home six figure salaries and bonuses all the while massively underinvesting in the actual areas they claim to support.* My heart yearns for a corporate manslaughter conviction but there has only been one successful conviction the whole time the law has been around as the evidence threshold is enormous. :heart-empty:

:powerlevel: *source: as part of my day job in the past I've had to run investigations on them. You'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy
 
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