Grand Theft Auto Grieving Thread - Yep, I've been drinkin' again...

[The Last Stand]

Part 2 of why the "remastered" version of San Andreas is trash. Oversimplified controls being one of them.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=TTxY_S0XD8E
Part 2 of why the "remastered" version of San Andreas is trash. Oversimplified controls being one of them.

Just got done watching it and was coming to post it.

They can't do any re-release right, I swear. Does anyone know if San Andreas PS2 emulates well at least?

 

[Gender: Xenomorph]

I really don't like some choices GTA 5 takes. Cover based shooter makes action scenes boring AF and healing items and restaurants are pointless now. The quick retry is evidence why convenience takes the fun out of gameplay; a lot of missions are forgettable now that you can just retry mid-mission, and most racing missions respawn you at the start of the race with a fully repaired car. Ultimately, you can skip most of Trevor's action scenes like killing the bikers and the meth house brothers, but not the yoga mission? The yoga mission takes too long.

 

[cummytummies]

Just got done watching it and was coming to post it.

They can't do any re-release right, I swear. Does anyone know if San Andreas PS2 emulates well at least?

If you're gonna emulate just pirate the original PC release and maybe throw in a widescreen mod if you want that.

 

[X Pac Heat]

I really don't like some choices GTA 5 takes. Cover based shooter makes action scenes boring AF and healing items and restaurants are pointless now.

The cover system was fine in GTA IV IMO, but it didn't have regenerating health either I think.

If you're gonna emulate just pirate the original PC release and maybe throw in a widescreen mod if you want that.

PC version is inferior to the PS2 version in MANY ways and require mods that are probably already taken down to fix a lot of its issues.

 

[cummytummies]

PC version is inferior to the PS2 version in MANY ways and require mods that are probably already taken down to fix a lot of its issues.

The only remarkable thing inferior in the PC version is the removal of 2-player couch co-op and maybe the moon not having cycles if you're really into watching the moon.

In exchange you get replays, mouse aim, better draw distance, more objects in the environment, much higher resolution and some bug fixes. Anything it needs to run on Windows 10 is packaged into one mod.

e. Here's all you need. You can either run the original release through compability mode (and perhaps do this if needed), or you can just get it off Steam, downgrade it to restore the missing tracks and use the "San Andread Fixer Pack" over at Nexusmods. I haven't tried the Steam version, but that's what people are recommending nowadays.

 

[The Last Stand]

I really don't like some choices GTA 5 takes. Cover based shooter makes action scenes boring AF and healing items and restaurants are pointless now. The quick retry is evidence why convenience takes the fun out of gameplay; a lot of missions are forgettable now that you can just retry mid-mission, and most racing missions respawn you at the start of the race with a fully repaired car. Ultimately, you can skip most of Trevor's action scenes like killing the bikers and the meth house brothers, but not the yoga mission? The yoga mission takes too long.

You can skip through many, if not all missions by failing three times and skip to the next checkpoint. Theoretically, you could "speedrun" through the story that way in a few hours. But, where's the fun in that?

Also, I find it weird that DarkViperAU knows almost every detail in GTA V's single player but when it comes to the 3D era, he's knowingly inept. How did he get into V if he hasn't played prior GTAs?

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

If you're gonna emulate just pirate the original PC release and maybe throw in a widescreen mod if you want that.

I already have it on PC and have enhanced it. I was more speaking for other people if they do end up taking the downgrader down as well as enhancement mods.

Speaking of which



I'm going to just guess that it isn't actually real and dipshit journos are backpeddling now. But if it was real I'd laught that Rockstar can't even get a remaster of a 2 decades old game in time for the anniversary.

At this point normie retards should just get the PC version and mod it before they can't. Anyone should be able to run it. If my store bought Dell PC could run Vice City fine in 2005, and a god damn 100 dollar burner phone can run the mobile versions, surely any old PC or laptop out today should be able to run an enhanced version of the original trilogy.

 

[Gravemind]

"I'm just too pretty to die hahahaha"
"Do you have any friends in this town?!"
"He killed my brother, what do you expect me to do, mow his lawns?"

I fucking loved Lance, it sucks he turned into a snake.

Lance was great during his stronger moments, but (and I really only keyed into this recently when I watched a story compilation video), after the takeover of Diaz's mansion, he just calls Tommy all the time nagging and whining like a needy girlfriend on a regular basis about how Tommy keeps downsizing his role and importance in the organization when, by Tommy's own word alone, Lance ended up content to sit on his laurels and fuck around instead of actually getting business done, and he was really lackluster on the jobs he actually was doing anyway.

It would've been a hell of a lot more effective to actually SHOW Lance fucking up more than once (or twice, I guess, if you consider the ending), but the context is at least established during those optional cell phone calls.

 

[The Last Stand]

It would've been a hell of a lot more effective to actually SHOW Lance fucking up more than once (or twice, I guess, if you consider the ending), but the context is at least established during those optional cell phone calls.

They're not "optional" in Vice City; you cannot hang up or speed up the call like in San Andreas and beyond.

Agreed, Tommy was relatively patient with Lance given Tommy's personality and situation. Lance in Vice City would be best described as a macho guy. He wants everything handed to him, but often makes the situation worse. Tommy even shows a bit of regret killing Lance at the end, but realized it had to be done. He betrayed him at the end to his former backstabbing boss.

Vice City Stories empathizes Lance's tendency to screw up with his drug addiction, ambition and immaturity against Vic's firm stance to get things done. One recton I do not understand is Lance embracing his name, Lance Vance in VCS but hiding it in Vice City. Although, his given name of Quentin makes sense.

 

[Maurice Caine]

I had the opportunity to play this build of relcs (links are in description) and I can say it's a pretty good port of LCS to PC, even with all bugs considered. I think it'll be pretty great when they finish it.

 

[Vault Boy]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=TTxY_S0XD8E
Part 2 of why the "remastered" version of San Andreas is trash. Oversimplified controls being one of them.

I swear to god, if that remake rumor is true, they better not butcher this game for a second time.

I feel tempted to pick up the GTA Trilogy bundle on PlayStation just in case they get delisted for busted remakes.

 

[The Last Stand]

San Andreas is my least favorite GTA, but Vadim M makes a convincing point about San Andreas' scope and attention to detail.

Vegetation on the ground, button inputs, reactive environment, weather effects, rendering, even CJ's interactions, a lot of care and attention was put in almost every aspect of San Andreas. Do not forget that this is running on sixth generation hardware pushing Renderware to its limits.

I didn't even know about how extensive the heat haze effect goes beyond the humid, sunny days. That alone makes the PS2 version the superior version by default. What was intended to mask engine limitations is an underappericated characteristic of the world.

I'm surprised it runs as well as it does in its original state, even with the imperfections found on the PC/Xbox versions.

 

[Captain Syrup]

Lance was great during his stronger moments

Well, you know, I always considered Vice City an expansion pack for 3. It's incredibly unpolished, and you can tell R* had no idea how to write a compelling story. Vice Beach promises a lot of depth which Downtown doesn't really deliver on. Vance doesn't start taking stupid pills until Downtown opens up.

 

[X Pac Heat]

Well, you know, I always considered Vice City an expansion pack for 3.

I mean, that's what it started out as I believe. I think the only reason it quickly became a stand alone game was because they weren't able to make it work as an expansion on PS2.

 

[The Last Stand]

Well, you know, I always considered Vice City an expansion pack for 3. It's incredibly unpolished, and you can tell R* had no idea how to write a compelling story. Vice Beach promises a lot of depth which Downtown doesn't really deliver on. Vance doesn't start taking stupid pills until Downtown opens up.

I heard Downtown was made in a rush. The second island in particular.

 

[The Last Stand]

Well, you know, I always considered Vice City an expansion pack for 3. It's incredibly unpolished, and you can tell R* had no idea how to write a compelling story. Vice Beach promises a lot of depth which Downtown doesn't really deliver on. Vance doesn't start taking stupid pills until Downtown opens up.

It was intended to be an expansion pack to III. However, they ran with it and made it into its own game. Smart choice. I guess that explains all that neon in VCS.

It makes the taxi/vigilante missions stupidly easy. That's one benefit.

I did the vigilante in the second island. I still haven't done the taxi missions. Ironically, Little Haiti has more detail and character than Downtown. An impoverished section of the city is more detailed than a downtown area with stock buildings.

 

[Captain Syrup]

Little Haiti has more detail and character than Downtown. An impoverished section of the city is more detailed than a downtown area with stock buildings.

This is where VC falls down the hardest. It's an interesting ethnic group, but not explored too well. Tommy is enslaved by Miss Cleo's voodoo magic. It's never mentioned again.

Maybe I have a 'been there, done that' mentality. It's a re-visit of "Disgracelands", which had traffic, dirt roads and lengthy missions. Funnily , the trailer park in VCS is a series highlight.

 

[The Last Stand]

This is where VC falls down the hardest. It's an interesting concept which isn't explored too well. It's ridiculously contrived, as well, since Tommy is under a magic spell.

I thought that was Tommy's actual aunt at first. Then, I was wondering how did she know of him in the first place? It made no sense if you think about it.

Here's a funny story: Miss Cleo sued R* for its Auntie Poulet apperance.

 

[Captain Syrup]

Miss Cleo sued R* for its Auntie Poulet appearance.

Grifters gonna grift.

Roger Hill (Cyrus in Warriors) tried to hold R* up for a quarter million. He's the only star they couldn't entice back.