Grand Theft Auto Grieving Thread - Yep, I've been drinkin' again...

[Ita Mori]

For those who beat GTA IV: who did you choose to kill, Francis or Derrick?

Derrick. The guy is just begging to leave his mortal coil with all his misery and callbacks to the good-ol' days.
Same reason I iced Dwayne. They will never stop moping and almost seem to get off on it.

Francis and Playboy are gits, but this is a business, not a dating show.

 

[Strictly Confidential]

I had a call back a few days ago to the og loc arc in San Andreas, it's weird as hell as a storyline and who in rockstar knew that much to make it a fun mission line.

 

[Long Tongue Silver]

A gold plane in GTA Online cost $10M GTAO dollars. That translates to ... (calculates Shark card worth...)

Spoiler: HOW MUCH?

$8,000,000 = $99.99
$1,250,000 = $19.99

$120 worth of currency to fly a virtual plane.

On top of the retail price to PLAY GTA Online. Really?

Explains why I'd rather toss a $20 to a mod menu creator and script kiddy my way into being a multi-billionaire on GTAO.

Derrick. The guy is just begging to leave his mortal coil with all his misery and callbacks to the good-ol' days.
Same reason I iced Dwayne. They will never stop moping and almost seem to get off on it.

Francis and Playboy are gits, but this is a business, not a dating show.

I offed Playboy for his sweet pad. Because I like nice things.

 

[The Last Stand]

I don't like how R* did Johnny and the Lost dirty in V. Why did they have Johnny go back to Ashley, especially after all that happened in TLaD? Also, why did they have Franklin get back to Tanisha for The Contract?

It practically made The Lost and Damned all for naught.

 

[CWCissey]

I don't like how R* did Johnny and the Lost dirty in V. Why did they have Johnny go back to Ashley, especially after all that happened in TLaD? Also, why did they have Franklin get back to Tanisha for The Contract?

It practically made The Lost and Damned all for naught.

Wasn't TLaD all about The Lost being in a downward spiral?

But yeah, They were done dirty in V

 

[Jack Awful]

Wasn't TLaD all about The Lost being in a downward spiral?

But yeah, They were done dirty in V

Yeah, but the surviving members realize the whole biker lifestyle is destructive and unsustainable only to go back to it during GTA V.

 

[The Last Stand]

Wasn't TLaD all about The Lost being in a downward spiral?

But yeah, They were done dirty in V

The gang, yes. But Johnny and the remaining characters should've just retired in peace after all that. Ashley, I don't care. Hell, it would've been funnier if she converted to Kiffolm like Marnie did.

I don't think R* liked the biker theme from IV. How do you explain the half assed Bikers update?

 

[Ita Mori]

I offed Playboy for his sweet pad. Because I like nice things.

His pad is too north for my tastes.
The algonquin penthouse is just right.

 

[The Last Stand]

His pad is too north for my tastes.
The algonquin penthouse is just right.

The Claude outfit was perfect.

 

[Ita Mori]

Yeah, but the surviving members realize the whole biker lifestyle is destructive and unsustainable only to go back to it during GTA V.

Debatable.
Their last act as a chapter is to invade and destroy a federal prison just to ice a turncoat. Not exactly a "we now see we were wrong" tale.

I think it's more they realized the chapter was fubar'd by Billy and those loyal to him. They had too many debts and had attracted too much heat to stick around.
However they never said they were about to quit the life. Being an outlaw is all Johnny knows...

 

[Long Tongue Silver]

I don't like how R* did Johnny and the Lost dirty in V. Why did they have Johnny go back to Ashley, especially after all that happened in TLaD? Also, why did they have Franklin get back to Tanisha for The Contract?

It practically made The Lost and Damned all for naught.

Because R* wanted to promote Trevor as the new "batshit crazy badass" by offing another well-known badass -- except they turned that badass into a broken, co-dependent shell of himself who ultimately died due to being a gigantic drugged-out cuck.

In a way, I could see it coming. TLaD's overarching theme was that there were no winners among the bikers. It's right in the name: they "lost" their leader, "lost" their clubhouse, "lost" friends and family and ultimately "lost" themselves. I could see Johnny falling into a deep depression and, in a moment of pure weakness, giving Ashley one more chance when he would have been better off putting a bullet through her druggie skull.

Having Trevor stomp out a meth'd up Johnny K. was utterly anticlimatic and ultimately unsatisfying. R* could have given Johnny some dignity by having him go out in a blaze of gory glory in the big biker gunbattle following that scene.

As for Franklin? He was always a pussywhipped cuck. Money couldn't change that.

 

[The Last Stand]

Because R* wanted to promote Trevor as the new "batshit crazy badass" by offing another well-known badass -- except they turned that badass into a broken, co-dependent shell of himself who ultimately died due to being a gigantic drugged-out cuck.

In a way, I could see it coming. TLaD's overarching theme was that there were no winners among the bikers. It's right in the name: they "lost" their leader, "lost" their clubhouse, "lost" friends and family and ultimately "lost" themselves. I could see Johnny falling into a deep depression and, in a moment of pure weakness, giving Ashley one more chance when he would have been better off putting a bullet through her druggie skull.

Having Trevor stomp out a meth'd up Johnny K. was utterly anticlimatic and ultimately unsatisfying. R* could have given Johnny some dignity by having him go out in a blaze of gory glory in the big biker gunbattle following that scene.

As for Franklin? He was always a pussywhipped cuck. Money couldn't change that.

It should've been the Angels of Death. They had bigger numbers than the Lost.

 

[Cod of War]

Because R* wanted to promote Trevor as the new "batshit crazy badass" by offing another well-known badass -- except they turned that badass into a broken, co-dependent shell of himself who ultimately died due to being a gigantic drugged-out cuck.

In a way, I could see it coming. TLaD's overarching theme was that there were no winners among the bikers. It's right in the name: they "lost" their leader, "lost" their clubhouse, "lost" friends and family and ultimately "lost" themselves. I could see Johnny falling into a deep depression and, in a moment of pure weakness, giving Ashley one more chance when he would have been better off putting a bullet through her druggie skull.

Having Trevor stomp out a meth'd up Johnny K. was utterly anticlimatic and ultimately unsatisfying. R* could have given Johnny some dignity by having him go out in a blaze of gory glory in the big biker gunbattle following that scene.

As for Franklin? He was always a pussywhipped cuck. Money couldn't change that.

I'm mad that faggot Brian died a more dignified death than Johnny. As for Cucklin, I don't see the point in them doing that. She doesn't even appear.

 

[The Last Stand]

I'm mad that faggot Brian died a more dignified death than Johnny. As for Cucklin, I don't see the point in them doing that. She doesn't even appear.

That bigoted asshole was annoying as hell. R* knows how to create annoying characters.

 

[Long Tongue Silver]

That bigoted asshole was annoying as hell. R* knows how to create annoying characters.

R* stepped up its game by making the main protags of V annoying as hell.
My kingdom for a single-player DLC that just features Lamar and Chop.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

Everyone talks about which McCreary brother would you kill in the game, but personally, I’d like to know who would have been killed more: Jimmy Pegorino or Dimitri Rascalov. In the beginning, it would have been easier to kill Dimitri since he betrayed Niko and took advantage of his trust by using him to kill Faustin and use Roman as a literal punching bag who was tortured in one of the missions.

However, in retrospect, one could look at this from many different angles. That is, in the case of Phil Bell:

The Deal/Revenge missions for this game were very nuanced, and at best, really a thinker as to how much Niko was tested on how much he valued loyalty and honesty with what’s left of his family — as well as with Kate:

As someone that has played this game numerous amounts of times, I’ve tried both options between Jimmy and Phil since Ray Boccino was still going to get “got” one way or the other. Though, I ended up thinking that killing Jimmy was the right choice since people don’t get that Jimmy wanted to work with Dimitri, while Dimitri wanted him dead because the power managed to get to him.

Plus, Little Jacob and Roman get to help you out if you take the Revenge option before the final moments of the game. Either way, you can’t compare this to the McCreary options or Dwyane/Playboy X options. There’s way too much to think about for these missions in particular.

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

Everyone talks about which McCreary brother would you kill in the game, but personally, I’d like to know who would have been killed more: Jimmy Pegorino or Dimitri Rascalov. In the beginning, it would have been easier to kill Dimitri since he betrayed Niko and took advantage of his trust by using him to kill Faustin and use Roman as a literal punching bag who was tortured in one of the missions.

However, in retrospect, one could look at this from many different angles. That is, in the case of Phil Bell:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=KB_fDPIMLAY, list: PLQ3KzJPBsAHkMJWvYcco1fXsR3JhMRSjm
The Deal/Revenge missions for this game were very nuanced, and at best, really a thinker as to how much Niko was tested on how much he valued loyalty and honesty with what’s left of his family — as well as with Kate:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=v_W1UdZfUC8, list: PLQ3KzJPBsAHkMJWvYcco1fXsR3JhMRSjm
https://youtube.com/watch?v=8cUYuYCQucs, list: PLQ3KzJPBsAHkMJWvYcco1fXsR3JhMRSjm
https://youtube.com/watch?v=EHhnnymXZn0, list: PLQ3KzJPBsAHkMJWvYcco1fXsR3JhMRSjm
https://youtube.com/watch?v=bGi-fGP5lAc, list: PLQ3KzJPBsAHkMJWvYcco1fXsR3JhMRSjm
As someone that has played this game numerous amounts of times, I’ve tried both options between Jimmy and Phil since Ray Boccino was still going to get “got” one way or the other. Though, I ended up thinking that killing Jimmy was the right choice since people don’t get that Jimmy wanted to work with Dimitri, while Dimitri wanted him dead because the power managed to get to him.

Plus, Little Jacob and Roman get to help you out if you take the Revenge option before the final moments of the game. Either way, you can’t compare this to the McCreary options or Dwyane/Playboy X options. There’s way too much to think about for these missions in particular.

The Deal ending actually makes more sense of Niko's final behavior against life itself, and the ending is perfectely depressing.
But i prefer Revenge's one: values are always more worth than money, and that's one of the main points in GTA IV's plotline.

 

[The Last Stand]

Everyone talks about which McCreary brother would you kill in the game, but personally, I’d like to know who would have been killed more: Jimmy Pegorino or Dimitri Rascalov. In the beginning, it would have been easier to kill Dimitri since he betrayed Niko and took advantage of his trust by using him to kill Faustin and use Roman as a literal punching bag who was tortured in one of the missions.

I think the Revenge ending with Pegorino's demise would be the logical choice. Dimitri screwed Niko over and constantly caused hell for him during the story. It's quite a great ambush.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

Narratively, Deal is the better ending to me because it seems more fitting that Niko and Roman ultimately pay the price for their greed/personalities (Roman is the one who urges you to take the deal for the money IIRC). It also enforces the idea that Niko and Darko were reflections of each other, and it just feels better for the final showdown to be with Dimitri who was set up as Nikos antagonist from early on.

Revenge is a more realistic ending though, where someone can get hurt simply for being in proximity to bad people and things just happen beyond your control.

 

[Korpon]

First time playing when I was young I picked Deal because shekels and Roman texted talking about going to Vice City and dumbass kid me thought (what if we can go to VC????)

Ultimately this ended up being a mistake, since my nigga Roman dies and I ran into a game breaking bug on the final mission. After you do the shootout in the abandoned casino and hop in the boat to go after Pegorino, you have to drive it under Little Jacob's helicopter to hop in, except every single time I got under the helicopter LJ would fly away and disappear and the mission failed. I replayed that final damn shootout 20 times before giving up, every time no matter how much ass I would haul the mission would fail, so I ended up restarting the whole game and picked Revenge. Although the Deal ending hits real hard in the feels in the end, hearing Roman's wife's phone call at the end broke my heart.

Revenge gives you a great mission of taking well, revenge, against Dimitri, but it was lame that Pegorino ends up as the final fight, I really wish him and Ray switched places in the final missions, Ray was the one who caused Niko to flee to the US mainly (and him also looking for Florian ofc), and Pegorino caused more trouble for Luis iirc (or at least the Italian mob in general did).