Global Depression 2022 - Time to do the Breadline Boogaloo!

[George Lucas]

What are your experiences talking to normies about this stuff?

When I talk about the collapse, or the competency crisis, or Birmingham going bankrupt, normies either shrug it off as not a big deal, ignore it, or deny it outright ("if it were true it would be all over the news.").

I don’t talk to normies.

 

[Omnium Ultimatus]

What are your experiences talking to normies about this stuff?

When I talk about the collapse, or the competency crisis, or Birmingham going bankrupt, normies either shrug it off as not a big deal, ignore it, or deny it outright ("if it were true it would be all over the news.").

I also don't talk to normies, but the ones I happen upon who bring up the topic always blame the mean nasty conservatives, praise Obama, and think voting and bandwagoning all these astroturfed social justice movements will solve anything.

They've got their heads buried in the sand so deep that they're impossible to reach. The only way they'll learn how bad things really are is when their virtue-signalling gravy trains stop giving.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

Soy is processed into goyslop for Shanghai and Beijing metropolis bugmen, pure soy grain is sent through ship, lighter cargo is sent through planes.

I'm pretty sure most Soy (and corn) is used for cattle production but I might be wrong.

And east asians can digest it anyways. It's like how northern euros aren't lactose intolerant. Who would've thought consuming the same thing for a couple hundred years minimum affects your genetics?

What are your experiences talking to normies about this stuff?

When I talk about the collapse, or the competency crisis, or Birmingham going bankrupt, normies either shrug it off as not a big deal, ignore it, or deny it outright ("if it were true it would be all over the news.").

To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous.

Some of the older folks I've talked about see the writing on the wall, granted, they grew up in the depression era so they know how quickly it all comes crumbling down.

The ones our age (read not ancient) that see the writing on the wall are already/trying to fuck off innawoods, or hiding themselves so they don't become the first victims redistribution of wealth by lynching because being prepared is no longer part of most people's thoughts. It is a "government" function.

"What would things been like [in Russia] if during periods of mass arrests people had not simply sat there, paling with terror at every bang on the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but understood they had nothing to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people?

The day where Solzhenitsyn prophecy becomes true may never arrive, but you'll know if it does because folks will be running over glowniggers while driving.

 

[Glowie]

I'm pretty sure most Soy (and corn) is used for cattle production but I might be wrong.

China despite massive sparsely populated rural Area, China imports most of its rice and soy from US and India.

Hell China's cattle industry is urbanized with pigs living in "hotels" multi-story buildings to grow, feed and breed pigs to fuel Chinese need for pork.

Like the rest of the world After China's boomers left farming communities, China's zoomers aren't interested to return to tradition and settle in little farmable in mainland China.

Triple typhoon disaster ruined China's breadbasket and architecture that takes decades to repair and compensate for losses, causing a population exodus and worsen already severe food shortage.

Most of low quality soy and wheat is fed to cattle in those indoor cattle farms in US.

 

[Rei is Shit.]

China imports most of its rice and soy from US and India.

You believe a lot of dumb shit.

 

[teriyakiburns]

You believe a lot of dumb shit.

China currently produces 16 million tons of soy annually. It imports about 100 million. The only thing he got wrong is that Brazil, not the US, is the largest source of China's imports at 75%, but that only changed in 2018. Prior to that, China imported almost all of its soy from the US.

https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3206301/chinas-soybean-imports-have-peaked-and-will-keep-falling-beijing-stresses-food-security-report-says

 

[Stasi]

Guys, relax, Paul Krugman has found the solution to our inflation problems

 

[Aztec Death Squad]

The planet warmed to this point over about 100,000 years marking the boundary of the Permian and Triassic periods, and it wiped out about 85% of all life.

85% of all life wiped out, and yet here we are.
It's almost as if all things, from planetary ecospheres to economies, go through cycles and entropy and and growth

 

[Rei is Shit.]

China currently produces 16 million tons of soy annually. It imports about 100 million. The only thing he got wrong is that Brazil, not the US, is the largest source of China's imports at 75%, but that only changed in 2018. Prior to that, China imported almost all of its soy from the US.

https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3206301/chinas-soybean-imports-have-peaked-and-will-keep-falling-beijing-stresses-food-security-report-says

Great job completely missing the part about how the worlds largest producer of rice actually gets most of it from the USA and India.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Great job completely missing the part about how the worlds largest producer of rice actually gets most of it from the USA and India.

Man, I know, right? It's almost like I made a conscious decision to only address the part where he was right.

 

[GunCar Gary]

Guys, relax, Paul Krugman has found the solution to our inflation problems
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inflation measurements that exclude the only things people need to survive. amazing

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

China despite massive sparsely populated rural Area, China imports most of its rice and soy from US and India.

China is on average 95% self-sufficient in grain and is one of the largest rice exporters in the world. Most of the Chinese rice imports are ways to game free trade agreements and manipulate local food prices. The soybean part is true though (it's related to Chinese demand for meat since the skyrocketing demand for soy in China is because of its use as an animal feed).

Triple typhoon disaster ruined China's breadbasket and architecture that takes decades to repair and compensate for losses, causing a population exodus and worsen already severe food shortage.

That's an exaggeration on the level of the exceptional doomers here who claimed half the Midwest would be a toxic unfarmable wasteland because of the East Palestine disaster.

inflation measurements that exclude the only things people need to survive. amazing

The government had to game the stats for inflation back in the 70s. Blame Jimmy Carter.

 

[Glowie]

China is on average 95% self-sufficient in grain and is one of the largest rice exporters in the world. Most of the Chinese rice imports are ways to game free trade agreements and manipulate local food prices. The soybean part is true though (it's related to Chinese demand for meat since the skyrocketing demand for soy in China is because of its use as an animal feed).

That's an exaggeration on the level of the exceptional doomers here who claimed half the Midwest would be a toxic unfarmable wasteland because of the East Palestine disaster.

You do know the source you cited is from 2018, right? China's food security took a hit in 2022 as mentioned in multiple sources that I cited. Today China’s self sufficiency rating Dipped to 65%~ this year alone, trying to turn mountainsides into rice fields, rural workers moving to countryside and the fact three typhoons ripped through Hubei and other rice and wheat producing provinces, China is more dependent on the west since Jimmy Carter days and their economy, crashing RMB and high unemployment rate certainly doesn't help.

Life under Xi made life for people a living hell for Chinese and countries under failing belt and road initiative, countries involved have high inflation, lack capability to pay back loans and China being capable to invest in the first First source Second source

While western world including United States and Europe are self sufficient, their inflation is nowhere near China, BRI
connected countries or BRIC countries which depend western food imports, gibs and foreign investment. Developing countries which rely on single industry like Saudis Cut it's oil exports since China's economy is faltering, nearing complete collapse, sources on that inside the article.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

You do know the source you cited is from 2018, right? China's food security took a hit in 2022 as mentioned in multiple sources that I cited. Today China’s self sufficiency rating Dipped to 65%~ this year alone, trying to turn mountainsides into rice fields, rural workers moving to countryside and the fact three typhoons ripped through Hubei and other rice and wheat producing provinces, China is more dependent on the west since Jimmy Carter days and their economy, crashing RMB and high unemployment rate certainly doesn't help.

LMAO read the article you posted, it even says Brazil (i.e. BRICS) recently replaced the US. China is also still importing a lot from Pakistan (traditional ally) and India (not a US ally), and there's lots of stories of Chinese buying up African farm animals (including shit like donkeys to make ejiao).

A primary factor has been Chinese people’s increasingly sophisticated dietary demands, driven by a growing city-dwelling middle class pursuing safer, more diverse, and higher-quality food. Concerns about food safety in particular have increased demand for imports.

Oh. Sounds like an issue totally different than the MUH CHINESE FAMINE IMMINENT TWO MOAR WEEKS UNTIL CCP COLLAPSE you get from your favorite Falun Gong (i.e. CIA) sources.

Life under Xi made life for people a living hell for Chinese and countries under failing belt and road initiative, countries involved have high inflation, lack capability to pay back loans and China being capable to invest in the first First source Second source

No shit, that was the intention from the beginning. It's a Chinese influence project first and foremost, just like infrastructure funded by the World Bank and IMF is a Western influence project. And it's performed incredibly well so far.

While western world including United States and Europe are self sufficient, their inflation is nowhere near China, BRI
connected countries or BRIC countries which depend western food imports, gibs and foreign investment. Developing countries which rely on single industry like Saudis Cut it's oil exports since China's economy is faltering, nearing complete collapse, sources on that inside the article.

This is your brain on neocon propaganda.

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/inflation-cpi - Bidenomics in action
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/inflation-cpi - lol
https://tradingeconomics.com/euro-area/inflation-cpi - Inflation rapidly dropping after they finally cut reliance on Russia lol (thanks US taxpayers!)
Meanwhile:
https://tradingeconomics.com/china/inflation-cpi - Would have to be several times worse than the official stat to equal the US, let alone Europe
https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/inflation-cpi - Pretty reasonable for a country involved in a life-or-death proxy war.

 

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Our buddy Jim noticed something hidden in some financial stuff




Don't look at what they say, look at what they do. And what they're doing is battening down the hatches for ungodly horrific market conditions.

Edit: Sauce found: https://ghostarchive.org/archive/msw3A

 

[Tiggletown]

Chinese "people" make me sick.

Anyways, I'm seeing article After article gas lightning me that inflation isnt real and if it was real it's gone now.

Do these people go to stores? I've had to halt construction on 4 sites because lumber and labor are through the roof .

 

[Mooger Meng]

Do these people go to stores? I've had to halt construction on 4 sites because lumber and labor are through the roof .

lolno, they have the menials do the shopping for them (or order it all on Amazon, same thing really). Just the day-to-day necessities, of course - you really can't trust their type with the fineries, Lord only knows how long it will take for their baser breeding to overpower their sense and they try to steal everything that's not nailed to the floor.

 

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Chinese "people" make me sick.

Anyways, I'm seeing article After article gas lightning me that inflation isnt real and if it was real it's gone now.

Do these people go to stores? I've had to halt construction on 4 sites because lumber and labor are through the roof .

No, they have people that shop for them. And if they don't then they don't even look at prices. They sure as shit aren't looking at prices of things the non-laptop caste would see, like lumber. And since their guy is in power if they don't see a problem obviously the problem is just a chud conspiracy designed to hurt their tribe.

 

[Autistic Joe]

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Another thing to consider - which these graphs rarely do - is the per-capita amount of debt, and more importantly what is the percentage of income. That introduces two more variables, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's actually about the same as before Covid (or lower) when measured that way.

@Rei is Shit. over the weekend I found a chart on FRED which aligns with what I was saying the other day. So even though total debt has risen steeply, it isn't outpacing total income, and by this measure we are back to around pre-Covid levels. In fact, over the past 10 years this number is lower than it had been historically, as far back as FRED's numbers go.



Granted, since this chart measures "debt payments" not "total debt", it's possible people are simply paying less and kicking the can down the road. But at least it indicates a (hopefully) sustainable situation. I'm still looking for good sources on total debt and total income, but everything is "seasonally-adjusted" and I'm trying to find non-adjusted numbers if possible.

 

[888Flux]

Guys, relax, Paul Krugman has found the solution to our inflation problems
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Paul Krugman is the Jim Cramer of macroeconomic trends