Global Depression 2022 - Time to do the Breadline Boogaloo!

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Who is going to get hit the hardest?

  • North America

  • South America

  • Asia

  • Europe

  • Australia

  • Africa

  • The Middle East

  • Everyone's fucked

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So yeah. The US Debt Market's not going to survive until 2023, which will slam the US (and UK and EU and JP) into an economic depression we haven't seen in 100 years or more. But if the psychotic fucks at the WEF et all think the Chinese economy is "Plan B" they have another thing coming. The only thing holding China's economy together right now is Communist funny money and corruption, and that'll only last until bills come due.
 
So yeah. The US Debt Market's not going to survive until 2023, which will slam the US (and UK and EU and JP) into an economic depression we haven't seen in 100 years or more. But if the psychotic fucks at the WEF et all think the Chinese economy is "Plan B" they have another thing coming. The only thing holding China's economy together right now is Communist funny money and corruption, and that'll only last until bills come due.
Why contain it? Let it spill over into the schools and churches, let the bodies pile up in the streets. In the end, they'll beg us to save them.

That being said, I think my extended family will be just fine since they live in bumfuck nowhere.
I'm pretty fucked though.
 
Biden and Zelensky will win any time soon, and they'll import free LNG to Europe.

Swarthy and strong sailors with lots of Swastika tattoos, hardened by Russian wars, will sail the rough seas, fuelled by pervitin and vodka, their feet sure on the deck of their lng tankers in the storm.

With a barave scream of Oink! will they smash icebergs and keep western Europeans like Pajeet, Rajesh, Achmed and Abdul from freezing.

Europe will have only 1 infustry left, but goats are beloved by Allah and need no electricity or gas to run, and Europe's goats will be so pretty, they will be the wonder of the world and joy of muslim man missiles.
 
Biden and Zelensky will win any time soon, and they'll import free LNG to Europe.

Swarthy and strong sailors with lots of Swastika tattoos, hardened by Russian wars, will sail the rough seas, fuelled by pervitin and vodka, their feet sure on the deck of their lng tankers in the storm.

With a barave scream of Oink! will they smash icebergs and keep western Europeans like Pajeet, Rajesh, Achmed and Abdul from freezing.

Europe will have only 1 infustry left, but goats are beloved by Allah and need no electricity or gas to run, and Europe's goats will be so pretty, they will be the wonder of the world and joy of muslim man missiles.
Slava Ukraini! I will keep my thermostat above 27 C until it is cold (and below 18 C when it is cold), eat only bugs and no meat, take the bus, and light my house only with those heckin wholesome Zelenski candles until the Ukrainerinos finally beat Putinmort and save Europe!

#StandWithUkraine
#FreezeForUkraine
#FastForUkraine
 
Haven't seen this mentioned on KF anywhere yet; apologies if it's a repost.

Great Reset: Switzerland Threatens to Jail People Who Heat Their Homes Too Much in the Winter (archive):

The article said:
People who heat their homes above a certain temperature in Switzerland during the Winter face fines and potentially up to three years in prison if energy rationing measures are put in place.

Under proposed legislation in the home of the World Economic Forum (WEF), Swiss lawmakers are preparing to set legal limits on the use of heating during the winter should the country face energy shortages. Under the plans, gas-heated buildings would be capped at 19C (66.2F) and water heating up to 60C (140F). Saunas and swimming pools would also be forced by government diktat to remain cold.

So-called “heating sinners” in Switzerland who heat buildings above the legal limit will face daily fines of 30 francs ($30/£27) to a maximum of 3,000 francs. Fines for companies that deliberately breach the regulations will likely be much higher.

Most worryingly, individuals who are found to have intentionally violated the energy rationing limit could be jailed for up to three years, the Swiss German-language daily newspaper Blick reported.

The article goes on to relay the government's official position on the subject, which amounts to "oh don't worry, we're still waiting for feedback from most of the country, and we'll totally listen to them and value their input, also this is totes no big deal guys." I know Breitbart has a tendency towards massive hyperbole, but this is pretty fucking insane. If this wasn't clown world I'd be more willing to write this off as just empty bluster, but this shit has a "real" feel to it. Europe is seriously going to let people just freeze to death over this coming winter, isn't it? :(
 
Something I got to pondering ... In America at least, things are getting more violent. Part of this could be stress over not having money and goods, job insecurity, etc. Part of it could be how violent criminals have been worshipped the past couple years. Add on how polarized everything is now, you are either 100% right or 100% wrong in your opinions, and no tolerance for others will be allowed.

What if the US government takes away social benefits? Social Security, Food Assistance, housing help, Medicaid/Medicare?

I don't have any inside information that the government is planning to do that, far from it. I'm just thinking that if they REALLY want to speedrun the end of civilization? ...Perhaps I shouldn't put such thoughts into words.

Actually it almost sounds like They are trying to make it so everyone lives like a person on disability. Universal Income would be like a SSI check, maybe food stamps added in, maybe some other food program, a universal version of Section 8 housing.

There are a LOT of people out there that would love to have that, instead of scrounging for odd jobs and couch surfing with whatever friend or relative isn't angry with them that week.
 
What if the US government takes away social benefits? Social Security, Food Assistance, housing help, Medicaid/Medicare?
Obama was wanting to cut Social Security in 2013 by fucking with the benefits formula using chained CPI. Sanders cucked him with a grassroots campaign, the Overton window shifted left, and it forced Clinton and future Dem candidates to keep it as is.

There's surprisingly little fraud or waste in these programs anymore, if there ever was. The "welfare queen" was an idea drummed up by Reagan's campaign to get the public to sign on to gutting social programs. A few such people exist, but they're hardly a significant problem.

Universal Basic Income is something that's a potential inevitability in the future, in the event that AI robots become capable of replacing humans at menial jobs like Amazon order picking or slinging french fries. But that's still a fair ways off, and there's a whole lot of unfilled positions in areas like health care, elder care, and infrastructure building/development which those speds can be retrained to fill. Experiments with UBI have had mixed results thus far. It's absolutely not going to be on the table in the USA any time soon no matter what party is governing, so I wouldn't be too worried about it.
 
Universal Basic Income is something that's a potential inevitability in the future, in the event that AI robots become capable of replacing humans at menial jobs like Amazon order picking or slinging french fries. But that's still a fair ways off, and there's a whole lot of unfilled positions in areas like health care, elder care, and infrastructure building/development which those speds can be retrained to fill. Experiments with UBI have had mixed results thus far. It's absolutely not going to be on the table in the USA any time soon no matter what party is governing, so I wouldn't be too worried about it.
The main problem with UBI is that it's inevitably going to be funded on borrowing, which creates an enormous inflationary pressure, by "creating" currency out of nowhere and injecting it into the economy at large. To mitigate that, the government would either have to find an effective way of extracting revenue from somewhere, to avoid borrowing, or they'd have to find some way of removing currency from the economy by "destroying" it at the same rate it's being "created". Normally paying back the debt that created the currency would resolve this, but governments tend to just borrow more to cover that.

UBI will probably only be truly effective in resource-based economies that also import most of their other needs, because they're "creating" currency by the sale of those primary resources and then "destroying" it again by spending outward to import goods. In that situation, a UBI simply circulates the currency for a little longer, before most of it leaves the national economy again. Alaska does something like this, with the Alaska Permanent Fund, though it's not nearly enough to live on. Norway also has a similar arrangement.
 
in the event that AI robots become capable of replacing humans at menial jobs like Amazon order picking or slinging french fries. But that's still a fair ways off, and there's a whole lot of unfilled positions in areas like health care, elder care, and infrastructure building/development which those speds can be retrained to fill.
The idea is only really applicable in scifi, robots cost way too much for anything above being a shelf carrying roombas, cost too much to repair, any fault can result in catasrophic loss until discovered and they are completely dependent on being given everything they need. Humans working on minimum wage practically pay for themselves and can be fired the moment they become an economic weight.
 
The thing I wonder about Basic Universal Income is, can the governments afford to keep the population like house pets, and if so what's in it for them?
Remember what Bob Barker said: All responsible pet owners have their pets spayed or neutered.

On some level they consider the vast majority of humanity -- "worthless eaters" -- to be the same problem as a bad feral cat/dog population in a city. If they can get us all into shelters and make sure we're responsibly taken care of while making sure we don't breed then the problem solves itself after a few generations.
 
The main problem with UBI is that it's inevitably going to be funded on borrowing, which creates an enormous inflationary pressure, by "creating" currency out of nowhere and injecting it into the economy at large. To mitigate that, the government would either have to find an effective way of extracting revenue from somewhere, to avoid borrowing, or they'd have to find some way of removing currency from the economy by "destroying" it at the same rate it's being "created". Normally paying back the debt that created the currency would resolve this, but governments tend to just borrow more to cover that.

UBI will probably only be truly effective in resource-based economies that also import most of their other needs, because they're "creating" currency by the sale of those primary resources and then "destroying" it again by spending outward to import goods. In that situation, a UBI simply circulates the currency for a little longer, before most of it leaves the national economy again. Alaska does something like this, with the Alaska Permanent Fund, though it's not nearly enough to live on. Norway also has a similar arrangement.
Short-term, they don't care about inflation because it primarily affects the 99.9%. The top 0.1% has enough money for multiple lifetimes' worth of spending. That is accounting for their massive spending to maintain their child trafficking network and pedophilic activities.

Long-term, their solution is to have everyone on CBDC and using digital ID. UBI can be distributed on CBDC, which has an expiry date. The currency that was created out of nowhere for UBI has to be used or it gets automatically destroyed.

With CBDC and digital ID, the grifting can continue. And without the need to be backed by any physical resource, grifting will continue in ways more creative than before.

The above is not a conspiracy theory or a guess. One country already has an early implementation of this.
Singapore is already starting the slow boil that will lead to digital currency that only works if you have a smartphone and the app, and expires if you don't use it, that all those conspiracy theorists keep talking about. Last year, they issued digital handouts to the public that could only be used with their app. This year, they did it again with digital handouts to the million men who were conscripted in the last 50 years.

Today, the filter criteria was set to "citizenship_status: active, birth_gender: male, conscription_status: 1_served or 2_serving, birth_year_min: 1949, birth_year_max: 2005" to be eligible for the handouts which expire if not used by a set date.

Tomorrow, the filter criteria will be set to "vaccination_status: 1_uptodate, dose_count_min: 24, is_organ_donor: true; social_credit_min: 1000, is_political_dissenter: false, age_minimum: 75" to be eligible for pension payments which expire if not used by a set date.

The day after, the filter criteria will be set to "vaccination_status: 1_uptodate, dose_count_min: 24, is_organ_donor: true; social_credit_min: 1000, carbon_credit_min: 800, is_political_dissenter: false, gay_sex_history: true" to be eligible for UBI which can only be used on authorised transactions for fake meat, public transportation and gender change surgery and expires if not used by a set date.

WIth CBDC and digital ID, the accounts of elites can be specially flagged so their currency will never expire. Unless an elite does an Elon and starts acting erratically. This is undesirable to the state. They can contact IT who will reset the currency expiry flag and put that person on a remedial programme. Failing to repent, that elite will have all their access to their financial accounts, access to physical locations and access to digital communications instantly revoked.
 
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Remember what Bob Barker said: All responsible pet owners have their pets spayed or neutered.

On some level they consider the vast majority of humanity -- "worthless eaters" -- to be the same problem as a bad feral cat/dog population in a city. If they can get us all into shelters and make sure we're responsibly taken care of while making sure we don't breed then the problem solves itself after a few generations.
Someone else pointed this out on another thread, but the population has become large enough anybody can make their living specializing in one field. Hell its gotten to the point we have people that are paid well enough to own a house by simply talking on youtube. Slaughter the bulk of the population, even with AI and robots, and you will loose the very environment that allows such concentrated specialization in the first place.

The WEF and elite that support them are too ignorant to realize their actions are going to set everybody back hundreds of years without a easy way to recover that lost advancement. They will doom us to all die on this rock instead of reaching for the stars.
 
The WEF and elite that support them are too ignorant to realize their actions are going to set everybody back hundreds of years without a easy way to recover that lost advancement. They will doom us to all die on this rock instead of reaching for the stars.
.1%, as @deepcuckingvalue stated above. THEY will build the spaceships and colonize the galaxy while the rest of us will die on this rock.
 
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.1%, as @deepcuckingvalue stated above. THEY will build the spaceships and colonize the galaxy while the rest of us will die on this rock.
Or will they?

Surviving in space requires a lot of hard manual labor and technical knowledge; something Bezos, Musk, Schwab, et al consider for the commoners. They won't know what to do when a wire frays or a pipe ruptures.
 
The main problem with UBI is that it's inevitably going to be funded on borrowing, which creates an enormous inflationary pressure, by "creating" currency out of nowhere and injecting it into the economy at large. To mitigate that, the government would either have to find an effective way of extracting revenue from somewhere, to avoid borrowing, or they'd have to find some way of removing currency from the economy by "destroying" it at the same rate it's being "created". Normally paying back the debt that created the currency would resolve this, but governments tend to just borrow more to cover that.

UBI will probably only be truly effective in resource-based economies that also import most of their other needs, because they're "creating" currency by the sale of those primary resources and then "destroying" it again by spending outward to import goods. In that situation, a UBI simply circulates the currency for a little longer, before most of it leaves the national economy again. Alaska does something like this, with the Alaska Permanent Fund, though it's not nearly enough to live on. Norway also has a similar arrangement.
quick question, how do you think welfare was financed in the past?

seriously, the biggest issue with UBI is that no one even fucking knows what it means. even someone in my social circle who usually shits on people getting welfare surprised me be being all for UBI, till I got suspicious and asked him why, and his answer basically boiled down to "lol free 1000€ every month". yes, the dude that makes 6 figures with a house in the suburbs thinks he's gonna get 1000 eurobucks each month no question asked. I know he's not dumb, but even he never considered where the money is supposed to come from and who's gonna pay for it all.

the only way UBI CAN work and the way it's mostly talked about is as an replacement for welfare. there's a reason the only countries even thinking about it are coincidentally the same ones with an extensive (and cushy) social security system. the idea being you get a certain amount of money, if you make more you don't, except without all the bureaucratic overhead. because let's face it, if you want to leech money lot of first world countries already let you get away with it, UBI would just cut out the (expensive) middle-man; and most people who would get it would spend almost all of it anyway - just like do with welfare now (and the state already gets a return via taxes). so it's basically subsidized consumption - exactly like welfare.

this idea that everybody is getting free funny money and no one is gonna work anymore is stupid, because it's simply not realistic. any money you'll ever get will be adjusted very low, and since most people don't want to be poorfags living in a shoebox they gonna work simply to have more money. same reason most people choose to be wageslaves instead of welfare queens.

of course how viable UBI or to an extend welfare is gonna be with everything going to shit is a whole other topic.
 
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Or will they?

Surviving in space requires a lot of hard manual labor and technical knowledge; something Bezos, Musk, Schwab, et al consider for the commoners. They won't know what to do when a wire frays or a pipe ruptures.
Agreed, the "elite" are dumb as fuck and only survive by jacking each other off at coke parties.
Also this came out today-ish:
(archvie.ph queued up to the thousands, will update later)
 
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