Global Depression 2022 - Time to do the Breadline Boogaloo!

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So the feds have just (possibly only temporarily) lifted the regulation on the withdrawal limit on savings accounts so now people can withdraw from their savings account(s) more than six times in a month without eating a penalty. They're certainly trying to pitch this as a positive change.

The article said:
Savers now have more access to their money.

The Federal Reserve Board on Friday announced an interim final rule to amend Regulation D, allowing consumers to make an unlimited amount of withdrawals or deposits from savings deposit accounts instead of being capped at six.

Banks are now able to immediately suspend this regulation, giving customers an unlimited number of transfers and withdrawals “at a time when financial events associated with the coronavirus pandemic have made such access more urgent,” according to the statement.

Why does this feel like they're trying to encourage people to finally spend the last of whatever meager savings (if any) they've kept tucked away?
 
Wouldn't it make more sense to wait for the collapse of the housing market and then buy? Or am I missing something obvious?
The trick is no one knows when that will be, and it may never come. As an example, instead of a sharp 30% drop after the minimum 2x gain every property got in the two years due to money printing/handouts to business owners & the rich, it just trades sideways for a decade, and due to inflation, housing prices sort of decrease even though the prices remain stable and "high".

That being said I'd still wait a year for the euphoria to wear off and the "oh shit" to kick in. Housing prices lag behind interest rate hikes.
 
I'm exceptionally MATI over the ACKTCHUALLYing over the recession.

It's not even about the economy anymore. For me, it's the flagrant lying and gaslighting. Every last one of those throne-sniffing ratfuckers deserves to spend the rest of their lives in chains.
 
So the feds have just (possibly only temporarily) lifted the regulation on the withdrawal limit on savings accounts so now people can withdraw from their savings account(s) more than six times in a month without eating a penalty. They're certainly trying to pitch this as a positive change.



Why does this feel like they're trying to encourage people to finally spend the last of whatever meager savings (if any) they've kept tucked away?
Too late. Shitloads of people are using credit cards to survive.
I'm exceptionally MATI over the ACKTCHUALLYing over the recession.

It's not even about the economy anymore. For me, it's the flagrant lying and gaslighting. Every last one of those throne-sniffing ratfuckers deserves to spend the rest of their lives in chains.
The only people who believe this still think Biden is doing a good job.
 
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Stealing from @Standardized Profile in the US Politics General thread. It's official, we're in a recession.
Been saying this for several months. We are in at this moment a soft recession. The problem is as stated before is Harvest season. The cost of food is going to continue to rise because if the high cost of fuel that famers use to run their machinery. That price increase is going to cascade downwards.

This is why I've been saying for several months to stock heavily on your food items.

Currently we have 21 pounds of bacon 16 pounds of meat 4 pounds of chicken 6 pounds of shrimp. 22 pounds of cheese. 25 pounds of rice 50 pounds of flour 8 pounds of potatoes.

I usually buy 10 pounds of onions and 10 pounds of frozen vegies of various sorts. I'm set on my spices and I rotate my food every 3 to 6 months.

Bread items I buy in bulk as well. By doing this I was able to soften the blow of the current spikes of food costs.

But I firmly believe it will get higher.

Last year I used to buy some take out 2 days a week just to break up the times of cooking. However for the past 4 months I've cut that down to 1 day a weeks.

If food prices get any worse I'll cut it down to zero times going out.

Again we are IMHO in a Soft recession. It could get better. It could get worse. It depends on the REEEEtards on Capital Hill on what they are going to do next.
 
Again we are IMHO in a Soft recession. It could get better. It could get worse. It depends on the REEEEtards on Capital Hill on what they are going to do next.
They're gearing up to restart lockdowns in one way or another. I'm not sure they'll blame covid again, but they might. They might also do monkeypox, russian saboteurs, or something new. It doesn't really matter.

It'll come in late September/ early October, and the dems will call for stimulus to support the people and frame the opposition as heartless greedy plutocrats. The election will be framed as gibs from democrats, gibs but for the uber-rich from republicans.
 
What kind of fucked up regulation is that to begin with?
The general idea was to prevent people treating savings accounts like just another regular bank account they can spend from all the time but with a different interchangeable label on it.

A savings account is meant to be for, well, saving. You're meant to use it to store money that you don't intend to use for a long time. Things like saving up for a vacation, or sending your kids to college, or a down payment for a new house. Money you plan to use to pay your bills, shop for groceries and spend on vacation doesn't belong in a savings account -- it should be in a regular draft account. If you really do need to dip into your savings, you're meant to do it in one go. Lost your job and need to pay bills? Transfer a whole month's worth of expenses from savings to checking in one shot, and pay for things from checking as normal.

To incentivize using savings accounts, they earn interest over time unlike the average draft account[^1]. In exchange for being able to store money in an account that accrues interest on the money it holds, the tradeoff is that you're only allowed to withdraw from the account a few times each month without penalty. Again, you should only really be withdrawing money from a savings account rarely when you're doing/buying whatever you were saving for (or to deal with an emergency).

Savings accounts used to form the solid foundation on which banking was built. Money people deposited into savings was loaned out to other people to be repaid with interest. Assuming the borrower repaid the loan in full eventually, the bank makes a profit on the loan and the people who deposited the original money never notice. When everything's working properly, individual depositors never noticed anyway because banks weren't supposed to lend too much of their held deposits back out to borrowers. In fact, federal regulations controlled what percentage of its total deposits a bank could lend, requiring the remainder to stay with the bank to establish a minimum reserve and ensure the bank stays solvent. The FDIC insured all deposits (up to $100k) so people would trust banks enough to store their money in them knowing they'd be loaning it back out to others.

When the regulation was put in place, it was a reasonable tradeoff because savings accounts paid reasonable interest rates in excess of 5%. Banks used to compete (even as recently as ten years ago) for business partly on the basis of how high their interest rates were compared to other banks. Hell, there used to be websites out there dedicated solely to hunting down the highest-yield savings accounts for people to use for profit.

Unfortunately, two things have changed in the intervening years that have made savings accounts essentially worthless (and arguably losing propositions). First, the feds drastically eased the reserve requirements, essentially allowing banks to loan out most of their deposits while maintaining minimal reserves. Second, interest rates paid by savings accounts absolutely cratered. It made sense to "soft-lock" your rainy day money in an account that paid 5-6% knowing you could still get it back immediately without penalty so long as you withdrew it in one shot and didn't treat it like a draft account. But 0.5%? Pffft, nah. Not worth it at all. With inflation skyrocketing and interest rates this low, you're literally losing money (pretty quickly) keeping it in a savings account.

The only way to have any chance of earning enough interest on your savings to beat inflation is to put it into a money market account (or even a 401(k) or IRA). But those have even more restrictions (401(k)'s and IRA's straight up steal 10% from you off the top if you withdraw from them before you turn 65, with very few exceptions) and those potential profits come with a whopper of a caveat: it's largely dependent on the fucking stock market. My 401(k) lost 30% of its value this year. Thanks Biden!

Conveniently this relieves the banks of any responsibility for protecting their customers' assets and encourages them to gamble with those assets instead of risking their own. If they make a profit, they win, but if they take a loss, oh well -- it was customer money anyway, and hey we told you there were no guarantees, also you still owe us the usual fees. Money market, 401(k) and IRA accounts aren't insured by the FDIC or protected in any way, either.

The feds shouldn't have lifted the fractional reserve requirement. That was a vicious mistake and we've been reeling from it for years now. Banks immediately took advantage of the new limits, so now literally all of them stand balanced on a razor's edge between solvency and bankruptcy having loaned out 90% or more of their deposits hoping to profit from the loans. Incidentally this contributed significantly to the 2008 subprime mortgage crisis that led to unprecedented bank bailouts. If the higher reserve requirements had still been in place, the banks wouldn't have been threatened with insolvency and they wouldn't have handed out so many subprime mortgages in the first place.

Lifting this savings account withdrawal limit is a signal to banks that we're basically giving up on the basic principle of banks lending real deposits composed of savings deposits by customers and going in hard on the new "money printer goes brrrrr" style of banking. It's also a signal to individuals that we officially don't consider "savings" to be anything different or special that distinguishes it from "checking." It's a subtle way to discourage people from using savings accounts at all (not like there's much point now anyway with interest rates in the toilet) and encourage them to take whatever they've saved up and run right back out there and spend, spend, spend!

I'm sure this is being done to try to stimulate the economy by encouraging consumer spending and also to squeeze the last of the lower and middle class' meager assets out of them by discouraging them from bothering to maintain any savings whatsoever.

Bastards.

[^1] Yes, some draft accounts also earn interest or include gimmicks that pay a bonus when they're used in certain ways (using the associated debit card as a credit card transaction instead of entering a PIN, etc.), but for the sake of this discussion I'm discounting that because it's rarely more than a pittance.
 
They're gearing up to restart lockdowns in one way or another. I'm not sure they'll blame covid again, but they might. They might also do monkeypox, russian saboteurs, or something new. It doesn't really matter.

It'll come in late September/ early October, and the dems will call for stimulus to support the people and frame the opposition as heartless greedy plutocrats. The election will be framed as gibs from democrats, gibs but for the uber-rich from republicans.
The end of harvest season will be around those times so yes I do agree with if things are going to get worse it will be during that time. So IMHO if people are still sitting on the fence they should start now in what I have been doing.
 

The German city of Hanover has laid out measures to cut gas dependency on Russia ahead of the winter period. Heating will be limited in public buildings, with no hot water and no lighting of public landmarks.
Officials in the central German city of Hanover have announced plans to cut energy consumption by 15% ahead of the expected gas shortage this winter.

The city has become the first major European city to switch off hot water in public buildings, with no warm water in washrooms and no hot showers at swimming pools and sports halls.

Hanover joins other German communities in seeking to limit consumption as the threat of a full or partial shutoff of gas from Russia looms over sanctions and the war in Ukraine.

What are the measures?
The city will limit the period in which public buildings are heated between October and March, with the maximum temperature generally set at 20 degrees Celsius (68 degrees Fahrenheit).

In storage areas and on public transport, that maximum will be between 10 and 15 degrees. Heating, more generally, will be switched off or lowered in areas where it is not strictly necessary.

Sports halls and gyms would also be asked to limit heating to 15 degrees, with no more warm water when showering.

There will be no more outdoor lighting of public buildings, museums and sights, with wider efforts to limit permanent lighting inside buildings. Public fountains will also be shut down.
There is more in the article but this is most important
 
I wanted to write something deeper but the best way to put down my thoughts on this is a simple "Lol get fucked Germans". Hope your virtue signalling keeps you warm this winter.
 
I imagine most of the rural Germans who already use wood stoves are just shrugging as they go back to woodcutting for the winter.
 
Parts of eastern Kentucky are under water from heavy rains there lately.
Will there be enough materials available for them to Build Back Better?
Will any disaster funds actually go to the communities hurt by this, or will politicians all get raises and bonuses?
I think we know the answer but it's fun to speculate.

If you want your answer, just visit Mayfield KY and see how they're doing. Really unfortunate that God seems to hate Kentucky in particular lately between this and the tornadoes last December.
 

The German city of Hanover has laid out measures to cut gas dependency on Russia ahead of the winter period. Heating will be limited in public buildings, with no hot water and no lighting of public landmarks.
Officials in the central German city of Hanover have announced plans to cut energy consumption by 15% ahead of the expected gas shortage this winter.

The city has become the first major European city to switch off hot water in public buildings, with no warm water in washrooms and no hot showers at swimming pools and sports halls.

Hanover joins other German communities in seeking to limit consumption as the threat of a full or partial shutoff of gas from Russia looms over sanctions and the war in Ukraine.

What are the measures?
The city will limit the period in which public buildings are heated between October and March, with the maximum temperature generally set at 20 degrees Celsius (68 degrees Fahrenheit).

In storage areas and on public transport, that maximum will be between 10 and 15 degrees. Heating, more generally, will be switched off or lowered in areas where it is not strictly necessary.

Sports halls and gyms would also be asked to limit heating to 15 degrees, with no more warm water when showering.

There will be no more outdoor lighting of public buildings, museums and sights, with wider efforts to limit permanent lighting inside buildings. Public fountains will also be shut down.
There is more in the article but this is most important
>be German
>go to the gym
>exert yourself
>catch a cold
>employer forces you to get tested for covid
>test comes back positive
>imprisoned at home for another 2 weeks despite being duodecuple vaccinated
 
So the feds have just (possibly only temporarily) lifted the regulation on the withdrawal limit on savings accounts so now people can withdraw from their savings account(s) more than six times in a month without eating a penalty. They're certainly trying to pitch this as a positive change.



Why does this feel like they're trying to encourage people to finally spend the last of whatever meager savings (if any) they've kept tucked away?
Seems like an attempt to reduce defaults. IMO this is a good thing though. Arbitrarily restricting poor people from their own money is dumb. Wealthy folks aren’t affected by this nonsense anyway. It doesn’t improve bank account rates anyway.
 
Dead horse beaten so hard, it's practically a fine paste at this point, but fuck it, it bears repeating: if Trump were in office, and this recession were to occur, you can bet your ass "RECESSION CAUSED BY DRUMPF" would be plastered everywhere, no matter how true it may be. But because a person with a D next to his name is (figuratively) in office, book-cooking it is. *sigh*
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Remember, we could be murdering each other for food and gasoline by the end of the year and the media would go "well, things aren't THAT bad" and some retards would still run interference for Biden and downplay it.

But at least the Tweets aren't mean! Some faggots would still say as they literally starve to death.

Retards are crashing planet Earth, with no survivors!
 
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