Global Depression 2022 - Time to do the Breadline Boogaloo!

[Herty]

Some news in the currency front:

https://wap.business-standard.com/article/international/ruble-becomes-best-performing-currency-in-march-soars-to-83-to-the-dollar-122032901631_1.html

 

[K-Hole]

Well, we're in the new world now.

We just passed the Rubicon of low/high price energy, never to return.

Fuel poverty. It's a thing.

Got a letter the other day, from the government, opened it, they said I was a sucker.

Actually it said my fuel bill is about to double. That's ok. It's not like I'm going to get angry about it. It's totally fine. Yes it is. Uh uh.

Food's got a bit more expensive. Guess it all gets a bit more expensive again when in six months the price cap that energy suppliers are allowed to charge is raised again. Ok, maybe not double next time but maybe 50 percent. Pretty soon you're talking real change.

Glad I don't drive or have a car anymore. Ouch!

Glad I don't have kids.

Glad I just live in a cell/pod.

I own nothing. Actually, what I do own, is easily owned by anyone else when I default on energy payments. Nothing really stopping them coming in here with the big boys and taking everything I got because I couldn't pay my last energy bill.

This is going to hurt a lot of people hard. I don't think they have really heeded the warnings about this day coming. But here it is. It's reality for them now. I'm hurting, or about to hurt more, but for them, a new whole reality is about to dawn, especially if they have kids, drive a car etc. etc.

I saw a stressed out soccer mom the other day here in Bongland. She looked kind of furtive, ashamed almost. As if she was gaming the system. What was she buying? 2 whole 500g packs of Cheetos! I guess she had sprogs to feed. Got to catch 'em while you can! Uh?

Life just changed. It doesn't go back. Mr. Bones's wild ride just gets wilder, and no, silly rabbit, you can't just jump off, well, unless you like jumping off very fast moving vehicles with terminal velocity.

We are all about to hit the wall. It will bring us all together, literally. In to one piece.

Ashes to ashes, fun to funky, we know major tom's a junkie.

 

[Pokemonquistador2]

Herein the Midwest US, gas and food are up, but I guess we're doing okay when compared to people in Europe. It sucks that restaurant prices are though the roof. Even a 1 tier above fast food chicken dinner costs 15 bucks now. Dining at a nice sit down restaurant will cost you about 25-30 bucks. (It used to cost you 20 just a couple of years ago.) It's a good incentive to not be a lazyass and cook your own dinner instead of ordering DoorDash every night - not that that will stop my lazy brother from doing so and then wondering why he's broke despite working 20 hours overtime every week..

 

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Life just changed. It doesn't go back. Mr. Bones's wild ride just gets wilder, and no, silly rabbit, you can't just jump off, well, unless you like jumping off very fast moving vehicles with terminal velocity.

We are all about to hit the wall. It will bring us all together, literally. In to one piece.

Ashes to ashes, fun to funky, we know major tom's a junkie.

Not to bemoan my fate, but, live in a modest apartment, work a tech job for one of the largest corporations in the world in one of the cheaper red states to live in, but due to Californians playing House Flipper I'll never be a homeowner. Friend who now is pulling the House Flipper bullshit examined my apartment for me and said fair value is $1000 a month (which would be doable but a rather big hit to my income and is a pretty big jump from what I'm currently paying) and sure as shit, $100 a month rent increase this year after $50 increases the previous two years. Looking forward to my rent for this glorified almost-studio to take up half my income, wonder how people who aren't making a decent wage are handling things around here as rent I've compared suggest the $1000 mark for cheap apartments is actually accurate.

Food is going through the roof. I've mentioned it before but Chicken went from $1.99 a pound to $3.99, and is still going up. Hamburger I don't have specific numbers but have gone pretty nuts. Thankfully Beef Hearts are still dirt cheat because no one eats them, but they'll go up too I wager. I guess this is how they get us to eat the bugs, by just making meat a delicacy that literally only the elites can afford.

Utilities are still affordable. No jumps in Internet or even power yet, although our power company has announced tiered pricing now, which means they're planning on charging us more for AC during the day or weekend starting this year. I see it as the huge red flag that it is, but no one around here is freaked out yet. I still expect that bill to be 20-30% higher this year than last.

So bread's out, how are the circuses? Thanks to scalping bots from California, India, and Russia you can't buy shit anymore, and thanks to idiots improperly implementing the Toyoda model as "Just in Time" and fucking it up (see the Global Supply Chain Crisis 2021 thread for more details) there's nothing to buy even if you wanted to pay the danegeld. GPUs are still at 175-300% MSRP, although they're supposed to be coming down. Thankfully video games plateaued about 5 years ago with graphics not getting any better, so you don't really NEED a newer GPU... which actually kinda feels like one hell of a coincidence.

I'm sure we're not hitting the real bad times yet, but I'm also sure it's going to take some adjustments to my behavior. For example, buying roasts instead of deli meat or chicken breasts, that sort of thing. A pork roast in the instant pot turns into several pounds of pulled pork at a decent price. The problem is, anytime we have this kind of shift in behavior I fully expect the WEF types to try and social engineer us into living in the bugman hives and eating the bugs.

 

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Food is going through the roof. I've mentioned it before but Chicken went from $1.99 a pound to $3.99, and is still going up. Hamburger I don't have specific numbers but have gone pretty nuts. Thankfully Beef Hearts are still dirt cheat because no one eats them, but they'll go up too I wager. I guess this is how they get us to eat the bugs, by just making meat a delicacy that literally only the elites can afford.

If I was correctly reading some silly EU bureaucrat plan, they want to reduce the number of livestock by 10-25% for some ecofag goal, with of course cattle being the most reduced since they're that obsessive about the evils of eating beef. They also regularly talk about putting taxes on meat, and the famous "own nothing and be happy" even says that by 2030 "meat will be a treat." I think it's pretty clear that's exactly how they'll do it rather than something like outright banning meat. It's how they do everything really, make you jump through hoops and curtail your freedom of choice every step of the way and then when you inevitably do what they want, they say "see, aren't you glad you freely chose that?" It what they do with literally everything from microtransactions in video games to their "vaccine" passports to banning wrongthink via private corporations.

At first I thought 2020 was when the totalitarianism started, but I think it's been going on since 2017 or so. Something about Donald Trump--very likely his base of supporters and how they mobilized rather than the man himself--made the elite realize that they had to start cracking down on everyone and everything lest they lose their chance at total control.

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

At first I thought 2020 was when the totalitarianism started, but I think it's been going on since 2017 or so. Something about Donald Trump--very likely his base of supporters and how they mobilized rather than the man himself--made the elite realize that they had to start cracking down on everyone and everything lest they lose their chance at total control.

Fortunately, the base is realizing that you can't get just one guy in office and expect him to fix everything. They're doing the ground game. They're going local in their efforts, since this was done from the ground up with little opposition to begin with.

 

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Fortunately, the base is realizing that you can't get just one guy in office and expect him to fix everything. They're doing the ground game. They're going local in their efforts, since this was done from the ground up with little opposition to begin with.

Yup. That's the big shift in American politics. It's too early to tell if it'll continue or if the left + GOPe RINOs will strangle it in the crib -- they're trying, that's a huge part of the 1/6 Political Show Trials -- but if it doesn't, things are going to be VERY different in the US by 2050.

For the past oh, 50 years or so the left has used Organization as a force multiplier. At the same time they've used moles and RINOs and the like to convince the right that Organizing is something only disgusting commies do.

So you have leftists dominating local shit and able to gear up for operations like Cancel Culture or MeToo or various forms of Entryism, all while righties all think they're temporarily inconvenienced Tucker Carlsons and Trumps and try going it alone over and over again. No one on the right dreams of being one of Carlson's researchers or a local organizer for MAGA -- while the left would literally shank each other and climb over the bodies to be Rachel Maddow's research assistant or be a big name in even a local political scene.

This is all intentional. The left knows full well this gives them a HUGE advantage and the right a HUGE disadvantage. It's why they have been targeting organization efforts and growing personalities on the right for so long. Remember that Alex Jones's clique was actually starting to organize rallies and supporters for MAGA, even going so far as directing and organizing protestors on 1/6, which I believe is one of the major reasons he had to be put down, and put down HARD.

We saw this even in the resurgent culture war. The left was fucking ADAMANT about getting GamerGate to declare leaders so they could destroy them and discredit anyone connected to them. Or worse, use them as a wedge issue. They did this in part to ComicsGate, getting them to declare leaders like EVS and then using him as a wedge issue to fragment the community over there. It was a carefully honed tactic.

They write entire books on this stuff. No, not "Rules for Radicals" but stuff like "Beautiful Trouble."

 

[Blobby's Murder Knife]

Chicken has nearly doubled in price in my area. It is now often cheaper to buy pork butt, chops or loin on sale or in general. Bacon is becoming stupid expensive but sometimes you can find 2lb bags of pieces of bacon for way cheaper. I use bacon for flavoring almost exclusively, so you are a straight strip eater this may not help but if you use it like i do, it is a real cost saver.

Beef is pretty expensive so I generally just get stew meat and even that is pricy. I did splurge on a 20lb brisket but that will feed for a very long time. Fish I am learning to smoke and picking back up fishing. Eggs are still pretty cheap for protein. I am picking up hunting.

I bought a vacuum sealer and a dehydrator. I am trying to force myself to can but would rather ferment or dehydrate.

I spend a lot of time learning and practicing how to cook and preserve food, in addition to pricing it out. Grocery store apps and Ibotta are pretty common ways to coupon and save. Grocery stores often just give you random stuff for free for using the app.

I would suggest just buying an instant pot at the very least. It is so versatile. I use it to make yogurt and cheese in addition to slow and pressure cooking things.

 

[K-Hole]

I'm sure we're not hitting the real bad times yet,

You got that bit right my nigger.

They are sweetening the pill here for us in Bongland. Ok, so maybe your Leccy did just go up double time. But in six months it goes up half of that again. Problemo?

I'm good. I'm super good. I don't have a life. Not much to rob off me. Then again, I will still feel the pain. But just not as much as mom with 2 kids. Guess that is why they are buying all the Cheetos up. Bought some Cheetos, pack was not as big as it looked in photo. Damn. Now got 3 small packs of Cheetoes. Live and lurn.

:-)

Got family dying soon. Should pick up a pay day there. Then again, shit, hope that doesn't drop too many bombs.

Everything is susceptible to shrinkflation.

Don't buy chocolate no more. Only buy what I need. I'm good though. Just took a 300 bucks load of everything I will need for the next 6 months/year, from the local super market. Guy delivering it was super pissed off. Lol. Asked him about if there were any 'substitutions' - he said "fucked if I know". Good.

Gonna phone them tomorrow to complain. You can't just buy 300 bucks of food and not get a heads up about what was substituted. Like I give a fuck. That probably gets me a tenner off my next purchase. LOL.

I'm using up old rice that is a year out of date. Still good. Using up tins of beans that are a year out of date too. Still good. Just rotating now. Tins of Tomatoes that are nearly 2 years out of date.

I care more about survival than saving money.

I've played this game about as good as I can play it. I feel like I'm ahead. Now would be a good time to quit.


Freezer needs defrosting. Gonna do that, then hunker down for summer.

Not got anyone local who I feel the need to share about all of this. If shit hits fan, I guess a lot of it goes to waste, but I won't care.

 

[Lone MacReady]

Not to bemoan my fate, but, live in a modest apartment, work a tech job for one of the largest corporations in the world in one of the cheaper red states to live in, but due to Californians playing House Flipper I'll never be a homeowner. Friend who now is pulling the House Flipper bullshit examined my apartment for me and said fair value is $1000 a month (which would be doable but a rather big hit to my income and is a pretty big jump from what I'm currently paying) and sure as shit, $100 a month rent increase this year after $50 increases the previous two years. Looking forward to my rent for this glorified almost-studio to take up half my income, wonder how people who aren't making a decent wage are handling things around here as rent I've compared suggest the $1000 mark for cheap apartments is actually accurate.

Food is going through the roof. I've mentioned it before but Chicken went from $1.99 a pound to $3.99, and is still going up. Hamburger I don't have specific numbers but have gone pretty nuts. Thankfully Beef Hearts are still dirt cheat because no one eats them, but they'll go up too I wager. I guess this is how they get us to eat the bugs, by just making meat a delicacy that literally only the elites can afford.

Utilities are still affordable. No jumps in Internet or even power yet, although our power company has announced tiered pricing now, which means they're planning on charging us more for AC during the day or weekend starting this year. I see it as the huge red flag that it is, but no one around here is freaked out yet. I still expect that bill to be 20-30% higher this year than last.

So bread's out, how are the circuses? Thanks to scalping bots from California, India, and Russia you can't buy shit anymore, and thanks to idiots improperly implementing the Toyoda model as "Just in Time" and fucking it up (see the Global Supply Chain Crisis 2021 thread for more details) there's nothing to buy even if you wanted to pay the danegeld. GPUs are still at 175-300% MSRP, although they're supposed to be coming down. Thankfully video games plateaued about 5 years ago with graphics not getting any better, so you don't really NEED a newer GPU... which actually kinda feels like one hell of a coincidence.

I'm sure we're not hitting the real bad times yet, but I'm also sure it's going to take some adjustments to my behavior. For example, buying roasts instead of deli meat or chicken breasts, that sort of thing. A pork roast in the instant pot turns into several pounds of pulled pork at a decent price. The problem is, anytime we have this kind of shift in behavior I fully expect the WEF types to try and social engineer us into living in the bugman hives and eating the bugs.

Last month Tyson nuggets were around 8.50 fiat notes, which was already up a dollar since last year. Went to the store today, they are at 9.99 fiat notes. Shit is already getting a bit ridiculous, just like the shitty Tesla plugs popping up like weeds over the last few months. They will kill 2 goyim with one stone. High gas will bleed the masses and their anger will be turned against Russia, and it will motivate dummies to accept EVs with government-mandated deadman switches. Meat will similarly bleed the plebs, and the "eat the bugs/plant sinew" narrative will explode.

 

[Non-breath oblige]

Chicken has nearly doubled in price in my area. It is now often cheaper to buy pork butt, chops or loin on sale or in general. Bacon is becoming stupid expensive but sometimes you can find 2lb bags of pieces of bacon for way cheaper. I use bacon for flavoring almost exclusively, so you are a straight strip eater this may not help but if you use it like i do, it is a real cost saver.

Beef is pretty expensive so I generally just get stew meat and even that is pricy. I did splurge on a 20lb brisket but that will feed for a very long time. Fish I am learning to smoke and picking back up fishing. Eggs are still pretty cheap for protein. I am picking up hunting.

I bought a vacuum sealer and a dehydrator. I am trying to force myself to can but would rather ferment or dehydrate.

I spend a lot of time learning and practicing how to cook and preserve food, in addition to pricing it out. Grocery store apps and Ibotta are pretty common ways to coupon and save. Grocery stores often just give you random stuff for free for using the app.

I would suggest just buying an instant pot at the very least. It is so versatile. I use it to make yogurt and cheese in addition to slow and pressure cooking things.

Recently I redeemed some offer from a grocery store app to get a very big discount on those 3lb (now 2.5lb because ayy shitflation) boneless frozen chicken bags.

Naturally grabbed the cheapest one before double checking the app and realizing it wasn't the one I needed (think I grabbed tenderloins when the discount was specifically for thighs or breasts or something, idk they all look the same to me, I chop it all up anyway).

I grabbed the one I needed, and I noticed there was a huge price gap between the various chicken pieces. Usually they're all the same price or close to it, but the one I grabbed was like...$4-$5 higher than the cheapest one. I honestly thought it was a mistake until I rang it up and yep, that was the right price. Thank god I was getting a steal from said app offer, because I literally thought who in the fuck would pay this amount at regular price for like a week's worth a chicken for a single person.

If you told me a few years ago that clearance fresh pork loins/chops would end up cheaper than frozen chicken, I would've thought it was some sort of elaborate tinfoil bait or meds.

 

[Overly Serious]

Not to bemoan my fate, but, live in a modest apartment, work a tech job for one of the largest corporations in the world in one of the cheaper red states to live in, but due to Californians playing House Flipper I'll never be a homeowner. Friend who now is pulling the House Flipper bullshit examined my apartment for me and said fair value is $1000 a month (which would be doable but a rather big hit to my income and is a pretty big jump from what I'm currently paying) and sure as shit, $100 a month rent increase this year after $50 increases the previous two years. Looking forward to my rent for this glorified almost-studio to take up half my income, wonder how people who aren't making a decent wage are handling things around here as rent I've compared suggest the $1000 mark for cheap apartments is actually accurate.

Food is going through the roof. I've mentioned it before but Chicken went from $1.99 a pound to $3.99, and is still going up. Hamburger I don't have specific numbers but have gone pretty nuts. Thankfully Beef Hearts are still dirt cheat because no one eats them, but they'll go up too I wager. I guess this is how they get us to eat the bugs, by just making meat a delicacy that literally only the elites can afford.

Utilities are still affordable. No jumps in Internet or even power yet, although our power company has announced tiered pricing now, which means they're planning on charging us more for AC during the day or weekend starting this year. I see it as the huge red flag that it is, but no one around here is freaked out yet. I still expect that bill to be 20-30% higher this year than last.

So bread's out, how are the circuses? Thanks to scalping bots from California, India, and Russia you can't buy shit anymore, and thanks to idiots improperly implementing the Toyoda model as "Just in Time" and fucking it up (see the Global Supply Chain Crisis 2021 thread for more details) there's nothing to buy even if you wanted to pay the danegeld. GPUs are still at 175-300% MSRP, although they're supposed to be coming down. Thankfully video games plateaued about 5 years ago with graphics not getting any better, so you don't really NEED a newer GPU... which actually kinda feels like one hell of a coincidence.

I'm sure we're not hitting the real bad times yet, but I'm also sure it's going to take some adjustments to my behavior. For example, buying roasts instead of deli meat or chicken breasts, that sort of thing. A pork roast in the instant pot turns into several pounds of pulled pork at a decent price. The problem is, anytime we have this kind of shift in behavior I fully expect the WEF types to try and social engineer us into living in the bugman hives and eating the bugs.

I wonder if we'll see a rise in housing associations and co-operative purchases? I've known quite a few people who did this in my demographic - sure there's risk and it can slow things down when you want to move, but it's a viable solution sometimes. Get four people together, pool your incomes and savings and buy a house, sharing the equity. Someone wants to leave then they have to get the others to buy them out or find someone else they'll accept to buy in. The thing is, back in the day there'd be enough trust and people you knew that this would be viable. It still is - but it feels like it's harder. Who has friends like that anymore?

 

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I wonder if we'll see a rise in housing associations and co-operative purchases? I've known quite a few people who did this in my demographic - sure there's risk and it can slow things down when you want to move, but it's a viable solution sometimes. Get four people together, pool your incomes and savings and buy a house, sharing the equity. Someone wants to leave then they have to get the others to buy them out or find someone else they'll accept to buy in. The thing is, back in the day there'd be enough trust and people you knew that this would be viable. It still is - but it feels like it's harder. Who has friends like that anymore?

The local guys are doing that, but as investors to get rental properties instead of actual homes. Basically organizing to compete with the Californians and Blackrock.

 

[LillWeeb]

Yup. That's the big shift in American politics. It's too early to tell if it'll continue or if the left + GOPe RINOs will strangle it in the crib -- they're trying, that's a huge part of the 1/6 Political Show Trials -- but if it doesn't, things are going to be VERY different in the US by 2050.

For the past oh, 50 years or so the left has used Organization as a force multiplier. At the same time they've used moles and RINOs and the like to convince the right that Organizing is something only disgusting commies do.

So you have leftists dominating local shit and able to gear up for operations like Cancel Culture or MeToo or various forms of Entryism, all while righties all think they're temporarily inconvenienced Tucker Carlsons and Trumps and try going it alone over and over again. No one on the right dreams of being one of Carlson's researchers or a local organizer for MAGA -- while the left would literally shank each other and climb over the bodies to be Rachel Maddow's research assistant or be a big name in even a local political scene.

This is all intentional. The left knows full well this gives them a HUGE advantage and the right a HUGE disadvantage. It's why they have been targeting organization efforts and growing personalities on the right for so long. Remember that Alex Jones's clique was actually starting to organize rallies and supporters for MAGA, even going so far as directing and organizing protestors on 1/6, which I believe is one of the major reasons he had to be put down, and put down HARD.

We saw this even in the resurgent culture war. The left was fucking ADAMANT about getting GamerGate to declare leaders so they could destroy them and discredit anyone connected to them. Or worse, use them as a wedge issue. They did this in part to ComicsGate, getting them to declare leaders like EVS and then using him as a wedge issue to fragment the community over there. It was a carefully honed tactic.

They write entire books on this stuff. No, not "Rules for Radicals" but stuff like "Beautiful Trouble."

it is because the American right is to obsessed with capitalism and libertarianism. They will complain amazon or some other megacorp doing something woke, and then get mad when you say we should tax them to oblivion. The normie right basically they just want to go back to the early 2000's and grill.

 

[Blobby's Murder Knife]

If you told me a few years ago that clearance fresh pork loins/chops would end up cheaper than frozen chicken, I would've thought it was some sort of elaborate tinfoil bait or meds.

And pork loin is a fairly lean protein comparable to chicken breast too, very tasty grilled. It hurts my brain to see people try to make pulled pork with it. That is what pork butt is for and that is often fairly cheap and on sale a lot. Freezes great and tastes amazing either in a smoker or instant pot. Occasionally I have seen pork ribs decently priced. Like you, I try to look for the discounted meat first then look to see if it was already on sale and finally checking the app to see if I can get even more slavings. I stacked a pretty good deal on two pounds of ground venision that way. Ended up taking it from 8.99 a lb to $3.99 a lb, making it cheaper than ground beef (sad noises).

Amazon Warehouse is a good source for reduced cost kitchen gadgetry. I have saved a lot of money just buying returns. Occasionally can stack with credit card offers or earned points. Doctor of Credit I can't recommend enough. Actually just always checking the clearance sections of any store often. Found my smoker half off at Home Depot of all places and it is great.

 

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it is because the American right is to obsessed with capitalism and libertarianism. They will complain amazon or some other megacorp doing something woke, and then get mad when you say we should tax them to oblivion. The normie right basically they just want to go back to the early 2000's and grill.

This is why they subverted the left first by getting them obsessed with idpol and muh democracy and consooming since the right was already advocating for these megacorporations. They don't want to leave you alone, and won't leave you alone unless forced to by something as strong and organized as the government (obviously not the current political system which they control).

 

[Blobby's Murder Knife]

it is because the American right is to obsessed with capitalism and libertarianism. They will complain amazon or some other megacorp doing something woke, and then get mad when you say we should tax them to oblivion. The normie right basically they just want to go back to the early 2000's and grill.

They just don't know that a socially conservative, economically liberal political philosophy exists, unfortunately.

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

If I was correctly reading some silly EU bureaucrat plan, they want to reduce the number of livestock by 10-25% for some ecofag goal, with of course cattle being the most reduced since they're that obsessive about the evils of eating beef.

The removal of all of this livestock would be just as destructive as the removal of the original herds of Bison, wild grass needs to be grazed on otherwise it just grows, turns brown and keels over to decay via oxidation which stunts the growth of new grass leading to desertification and conditions that led to the dustbowl. These herds clearcuit the area, shit all over which contain seeds and trample the dung into the ground. These new leftist environmentalist constantly chase after laboratory numbers and disregard the larger picture of the environment as a whole, I fucking hate them so much, they'll let entire regions turn to desert rather than let a few cow farts into the air.

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

And pork loin is a fairly lean protein comparable to chicken breast too, very tasty grilled. It hurts my brain to see people try to make pulled pork with it. That is what pork butt is for and that is often fairly cheap and on sale a lot. Freezes great and tastes amazing either in a smoker or instant pot. Occasionally I have seen pork ribs decently priced. Like you, I try to look for the discounted meat first then look to see if it was already on sale and finally checking the app to see if I can get even more slavings. I stacked a pretty good deal on two pounds of ground venision that way. Ended up taking it from 8.99 a lb to $3.99 a lb, making it cheaper than ground beef (sad noises).

Amazon Warehouse is a good source for reduced cost kitchen gadgetry. I have saved a lot of money just buying returns. Occasionally can stack with credit card offers or earned points. Doctor of Credit I can't recommend enough. Actually just always checking the clearance sections of any store often. Found my smoker half off at Home Depot of all places and it is great.

Pork Butt is great for making sausage too. Even now with sky high prices you can find pork butt for $0.99-$1.29 per lb if you wait for it to show up as a loss leader. Grind it up with spices and you’ve just turned that $0.99 per lb pork butt into $3-$4 per lb pan sausage. Buy casings and stuff it and now you’ve turned it into $5 per lb sausage ropes/links. Agreed, though, that it’s a waste of a loin to make pulled pork out of it. If you don’t want to prepare it as-is, then cut it up and make boneless chops or turn it into Canadian bacon

Homemade Canadian Bacon Recipe - Food.com

Been wanting to start making my own and saving it here for safe keeping. I haven't tried this yet. Update: I have made this now after reading Wing Man

www.food.com

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

They just don't know that a socially conservative, economically liberal political philosophy exists, unfortunately.

Anything that even remotely resembles that (like some political parties in Europe) are instantly deemed FAR RIGHT NEONYAHTZEES and declared dangerous threats to our democracy. Like we are seriously at a point where believing in capitalism with a social safety net, wanting restrictions on immigration that actually get enforced, and supporting social values akin to 80s or 90s Western Europe i.e. bog-standard centrist shit pretty much all but the most left-wing Democrats, UK Labour, etc. would have supported 20-30 years ago, is now considered fascism. Someone like Tucker Carlson, a conservative-leaning centrist, is now literally Goebbels. When society is this insane, is it any surprise the economy eventually follows?

The removal of all of this livestock would be just as destructive as the removal of the original herds of Bison, wild grass needs to be grazed on otherwise it just grows, turns brown and keels over to decay via oxidation which stunts the growth of new grass leading to desertification and conditions that led to the dustbowl. These herds clearcuit the area, shit all over which contain seeds and trample the dung into the ground. These new leftist environmentalist constantly chase after laboratory numbers and disregard the larger picture of the environment as a whole, I fucking hate them so much, they'll let entire regions turn to desert rather than let a few cow farts into the air.

The interesting thing is that cattle are native to Europe, because they're just the modern descendents of aurochs which alongside the European bison, is now more or less extinct and its ecological role carried out by cattle. The "cows will kill us all with methane, ban/tax beef" thing is really dumb because cattle just replaced other large animals we've driven to extinction while irrigation programs creating new grazing land is actually good for the environment by making more plants to trap the carbon. When they talk about how cows make all the emissions, what they're actually referring to is studies that lump in emissions created by deforestation in the Amazon, a sizable portion of which IS to make new ranch land but those are just estimates since plenty of it is illegal logging, clearing to make soy plantations, and peasants/Indians carrying out slash and burn cultivation.

And sure, a lot of that is because of demand for meat, but that demand is largely driven by the increase of wealth in the Third World. There is no easy solution, but instead of doing something like trying to make lab-grown meat (which BTW involves an increase in power consumption) from actual animal cells that actually tastes good, they want to make us eat bugs and soy instead. There are so many solutions to the problems in this world, but the solutions that get funded are all bent on the mass impoverishment of humanity and destruction of all cultures in favor of a monoculture tailored for "efficiency." Pure evil shit on the lines of what the Nazis wanted for Eastern Europeans, but somehow I'm the bad guy for wanting them treated like the Nazis were.