yeah pretty much. The original episodes have been reposted several times but I'll just quote the most recent one in the thread. Skinsuit+pibbyglitch AAAA SCARY AAAA
Gameoverse's concept has a lot of potential, but considering it is a Glitch cartoon, there will also be a lot of missed potential. The idea of a universe where each world is a different video game and beating the game is a world-ending event, thus our protagonist has to help the villains to save these worlds while the antagonists have to help the heroes, is a definitely good and unique idea; I have to admit. There are tons of settings these video game worlds could use. You could have more kid-friendly settings, like just what we had in the pilot, but we could also have darker ones, like basing a world on Fallout, Half-Life, or Doom. If Glitch wasn't run by cowards, there could even be a Wolfenstein-based episode in which Kit has to help Hitler of all people. This is what I mean by missed potential. You don't need to be a genius to figure out that the creators will not step out of their comfort zone and will prefer generic settings that Tumblr-adjacent people will gobble up.
This is part of what pisses me off, because Pibby showed at least the willingness to try shit [they had spongebob's house in the trailer, they had ideas]. These fucking chinks won't do anything different or cool
Wait a minute, I just realized something : The whole "if the good guy wins the game is le heckin destroyed dood!!!1" is just something from Reboot! If the player characters win, that game is destroyed, I think?
Wait a minute, I just realized something : The whole "if the good guy wins the game is le heckin destroyed dood!!!1" is just something from Reboot! If the player characters win, that game is destroyed, I think?
Yes people made that comparison already it's that minus the vidya game people being aware of the user it seems.
Also difference in reboot is the main characters are trying to stop shit form being destroyed via winning rather than preventing the other protags from winning.
There's something really demoralizing about people fresh out of highschool basically parroting the politics grift narrative shit from the last decade and society slowly shaping into this fake fucking puritan thing where everyone that pulls this shit later gets outed as super degens.
It wouldn't stop being in my recommended so I clicked on it, it looks like it would be literally just BIDEO GAEMES:THE REFERENCE;NOW WITH FURRBAIT. Other than that it was mid I guess? Well animated etc etc but what is it with millennials and making DEEP TRAUMA kids cartoons? Are we all really just stuck on newgrounds forever? And clicking around, is every fucking show this company puts out just the merchandising joke from space balls?
I guess I'll see in 4 years when the second episode comes out and the characters change VA's, I do wonder how long this model can last, with all the doom and gloom around no one having kids eventually we have to stop having tumblrite theater kids who eat this slop up right?
less millenials specifically more the people that have connections int he Industry or are looking to become part of the california media oligarchy and ladder up for some retarded reason. There'd be at least one good DEEP TRAUMA storyline if they weren't trying to simultaneously play things safe enough to not offend anyone in Hollywood.
I mean a lot of the newgrounds people involved in this seem to have done that disavowing of their past a few years ago and I think beong actuallys tuck on newgrounds would be a bit less painful than the constant reboot/remake subversion hell we've been in the last decade.
I wonder now though, will it do that twist all these kinds of things that are reboot/subversions do sometimes where they go "no no see it was actually a SEQUEL to the original because time travel mumbo jumbo shit" that everything started doing in like 2017-18-ish and never really stopped. I've only seen one or two things that did that kind of twist "ok" but it was because it was basically either a bit played for a meta joke laugh of shit being around since the 60s or in the more serious cases where it was ok the media itself didn't rewrite or subvert the actual core of the characters and just treated it like a surprise continuation twist of "yeah this guy you thought was a new guy is actually the guy from the original thing just helping another person wow"
Every "indie pilot" the last near decade now has just been the first episode labelled as a pilot. This results in some really funny nonsense fail manipulation tactics sometimes though like vivziepop declaring the first episode of hellovaboss non canon because it was labelled as a pilot when all the episodes after reference events from it and continue characterization from the pilot until she decided to change the show abruptly to a badly written romantic melodrama between the gay rapist owl and the ex-clown loser demon hitman.
By the way, did you guys know that Kit is lesbian?
There's a freeze-frame bonus in the pilot of a picture of her being with a woman (a human one, not another catgirl weirdly enough), with an implied romantic subtext, I can't find where it is exactly but I assure you it should be there.
We're entering a generation of creatives who only know how to conjure visual hypnotic imagery without even the barest hint of substance or true emotional depth behind any of it. This is why they can only refer back to muh trauma/PTSD/anxiety in their work. It's simple mainstream therapy-speak and the only emotional aspect of life they are capable of channeling because they simply fail to understand people and refuse to because they think they are better than you due to being "artists."
But many of these "artists" also come from comfortable middle-class backgrounds which shielded them from having to deal with any genuine struggles. Compare this to the fiction writers from the 20th century who drew from their own life experience to create entire lifelike storylines, humans and worlds from scratch with only letters and words on pages limited to only two colors. This ability seems to be vanishing in exchange for prettier and more hypnotic graphics that appeal to lower and lower denominators.
The animation can be the most fluid, expensive, golden-age Disney-like top tier anime influenced art style in existence, but without substance it will be nothing but the equivalent to waving keys in front of a toddler. We're in desperate need of real writers. I'm tired of "but it looks good" being used as an excuse. If "it looks good" is the only positive, then it is hypnotism, not art.
We're entering a generation of creatives who only know how to conjure visual hypnotic imagery without even the barest hint of substance or true emotional depth behind any of it. This is why they can only refer back to muh trauma/PTSD/anxiety in their work. It's simple mainstream therapy-speak and the only emotional aspect of life they are capable of channeling because they simply fail to understand people and refuse to because they think they are better than you due to being "artists."
But many of these "artists" also come from comfortable middle-class backgrounds which shielded them from having to deal with any genuine struggles. Compare this to the fiction writers from the 20th century who drew from their own life experience to create entire lifelike storylines, humans and worlds from scratch with only letters and words on pages limited to only two colors. This ability seems to be vanishing in exchange for prettier and more hypnotic graphics that appeal to lower and lower denominators.
The animation can be the most fluid, expensive, golden-age Disney-like top tier anime influenced art style in existence, but without substance it will be nothing but the equivalent to waving keys in front of a toddler. We're in desperate need of real writers. I'm tired of "but it looks good" being used as an excuse. If "it looks good" is the only positive, then it is hypnotism, not art.
To give a bit of credibility to the show, it's not like the trauma on display is kiddy shit, it's "oh dear God my world is dead and this guy's world is also gonna die taking billions of lives unless I can stop this", not like most millenial trash on the market is. No family issues, no daddy issues.
The issue here is how it's not just displayed, but also displayed commonly and also taking it right in the middle of what's supposed to be a different tone.
They could've done it a lot more simply and efficiently in the underwater village scene for example if they just had Kit breathing rapidly at first, no special glitchy effects, and then someone snapping her out of it quickly and getting back on track. Not lingering on how the village looks just like hers with all the effects.
Then when shit actually gets serious and that dolphin faggot's asking her if it's his fault, then you could've had time slow down, then have the full-blown PTSD scene with her barely snapping out of it herself enough to tell him what she thinks. It'd show some character growth on her end about focusing on what's in front of you.
It's crazy how they got being subtle right at first with how that paper Kit had before she fought her final boss was very likely actually Paper, and then threw it all down a drain.
To draw more comparison as to how shitty the trauma scene was handled, the Hunter X Hunter anime (the one by Madhouse) somehow got the idea of trauma better than this damn show and even then it was handled incredibly goofy-like. Kurapika's quest for vengeance is mainly what I'm getting at, where one scene it's just him being weirded out at some freaks while he's doing his Hunter work, but then the very next scene he's got that edgy monologue about how he's gonna get his revenge on those Black Spiders for killing his entire bloodline. I forgot if it actually went right to the encounter with the Spiders or went back to the storyline but either way, when something even handled so dryly is still presented better than the way you handle the serious parts of your own show, then you might be a bit ass at writing.
I wrote this thinking you were talking about Gameoverse and then only realized you were talking about the industry in general, my bad. In that case I can agree for the most part, but fortunately we're not all the way there yet. Just support what's good and out there, there's plenty of it even if it isn't getting astroturfed to hell.
I should also mention that yeah, the show would be better without all the trauma shit, but if you have to put it in there you could at least make it tolerable.
By the way, did you guys know that Kit is lesbian?
There's a freeze-frame bonus in the pilot of a picture of her being with a woman (a human one, not another catgirl weirdly enough), with an implied romantic subtext, I can't find where it is exactly but I assure you it should be there.
Draw a character with an exposed midriff and people act like they're being forced to watch hardcore porn. It wouldn't matter if the characters were made with 100% "safe horny" designs, people like this would still be going on about "the male gaze".
