Germany plans legislation to ban so-called 'enemy lists' - Thank God this will only affect far-right extremist networks and not forums full of autistic archivists

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BERLIN (AP) — The German government on Wednesday unveiled draft legislation that would criminalize the distribution of lists naming people as potential targets for intimidation or violent action.

Numerous so-called enemy lists have circulated in far-right online forums in recent years, some of them containing private information and threats such as “we’ll get you all.”

Justice Minister Christine Lambrecht said the proposed legislation is intended to better protect people from intimidation, including local politicians who have faced hate-filled comments and death threats for their actions.

Walter Luebcke, a politician in the Kassel region and member of Chancellor Angela Merkel’s party, was featured on such lists before he was shot dead on his porch by a neo-Nazi in 2019.

Under the proposed legislation, anyone found to be distributing personal data in a way that could endanger the people concerned would face up to two years’ imprisonment or a fine. In the case of lists including data that isn’t publicly available — such as information that could only have come from law enforcement databases — a maximum three-year prison sentence could be imposed.

Journalists and antifascist groups that seek to expose extremist networks would be exempt from the ban.

The bill requires parliamentary approval.

 

[Ita Mori]

Journalists and antifascist groups that seek to expose extremist networks would be exempt from the ban.

LOL Antifags matter more than Germans.

 

[mr.moon1488]

Journalists and antifascist groups that seek to expose extremist networks would be exempt from the ban.

So basically it's just a repeat of what the Weimar Republic did.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

Journalists and antifascist groups that seek to expose extremist networks would be exempt from the ban.

LMAO, those are the groups who are the type to keep enemy lists to begin with.

I’m glad they’re ditching even the thinnest veneer of objectivity. Of course, if another ruddy-cheeked Austrian ends up in charge of Germany, they will act totally shocked that such a thing could have possibly happened.

 

[Hamsteroid]

LOL Antifags matter more than Germans.

May I present: Claudia Roth of the Green Party at an anti Germany demonstration in May '90. She is now one of the vice presidents of the Bundestag.

Spoiler: Translations

Germany, never again !
– Against the annexation of the German Democratic Republic !
– Against German Nationalism !

So basically it's just a repeat of what the Weimar Republic did.

A true Weimar Republic has never been tried.

 

[axfaxf]

Under the proposed legislation, anyone found to be distributing personal data in a way that could endanger the people concerned would face up to two years’ imprisonment or a fine. In the case of lists including data that isn’t publicly available — such as information that could only have come from law enforcement databases — a maximum three-year prison sentence could be imposed.

If you distribute a list of three peoples publicly available names and addresses, you get 2 years in the slammer, unless you happen to be journoscum or Antifag.

Yeah, this won´t backfire spectacularly, but I could see a lot of trolls reporting just about any business or institution using this bullshit law. Maybe start with the banks and their "far-right" tendency to make lists of peoples credit score. ^^.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

And then, one day, for no reason- none whatsoever- a loud man with a funny moustache was made leader of Germany, and upon his ascension he began persecuting the enemies of Germany to the approving roar of the citizenry.

 

[Pixy]

So basically it's just a repeat of what the Weimar Republic did.

Well, no, because they were on the lookout for leftie groups. It was the 'Workers'' in the 'German Workers' Party' that got the army to send Hitler in to spy on them.

The Weimar Republic was still run by the conservative elites of the German Empire, something that showed during Hitler's trial.

May I present: Claudia Roth of the Green Party at an anti Germany demonstration in May '90. She is now one of the vice presidents of the Bundestag.

– Against the annexation of the German Democratic Republic !

To be fair, they (the former DDR regions) were/are kind of a welfare leech.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

I hope the Antideutsch are exempt too. They need to make enemy lists to best keep track of antisemitism and anti-Israel content among the anti-fascist movement. #NeverAgain

 

[mr.moon1488]

Well, no, because they were on the lookout for leftie groups. It was the 'Workers'' in the 'German Workers' Party' that got the army to send Hitler in to spy on them.

The Weimar Republic was still run by the conservative elites of the German Empire, something that showed during Hitler's trial.


To be fair, they (the former DDR regions) were/are kind of a welfare leech.

The Weimar government definitely backed the communist groups over the NSDAP. Most of the NSDAP conflicts prior to the beer hall putsch were against communists, and the government was always "absent" when the communists were out and about, but right on the spot when the NSDAP was doing something. Likewise, when Hitler was sent to spy on the DAP, all evidence suggests he had pretty normie political opinions at that time. He just got there and quickly realized that the DAP was right about the Jews. He was picked because he was one of the rare people in the German army at that time that had both a distinguished service record and nowhere else to go because of his education. They had assumed that his service record would allow him to do well in the DAP, which they were right about, but they had also assumed that his desperation for work would force him to stay obedient which they were wrong about. There were certainly some people in the German military high command that supported and protected Hitler, and this is likely why he wasn't shoahed early on, but for the most part, the German elites in the private and public sector were vehemently opposed to the NSDAP. Keep in mind, while all of this was going on, you literally had a communist country cropping up in German territory "Bavarian Soviet Republic," and the Freikorps had to put down a communist rebellion in Berlin just a year prior. Yet with all of this, the military was still instructed to go after oy vey muh antisemitism.

Spoiler: Hitler's medals

Iron Cross First Class (German equivalent of the US Medal of Honor) Iron Cross Second Class Wound Badge Honor Cross 1914–1918 Bavarian Cross of Military Merit, Third Class with Swords Bavarian Medal of Military Service, Third Class

 

[Uncle Paul]

They need to stop making any lists of people to discriminate against for politics or sexuality! Its like Nazi Germany with lists keepin' people from goin' places!