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Fox Girl Enjoyer said:
Not to mention the main character and Paimon are complete dipshits to her in her Story Quest despite the Traveler knowing what happened to her.
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Am I the only one who found this part kind of weird? The final part of the archon quest touches about how she's been forced to act for 500 years. She's now free and never has to act again, yet her story quest basically starts with their aim being to get her to act again.
 
Fox Girl Enjoyer said:
Needless to say, none of them did well (Lynel especially which will be relevant).
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I'm sorry but is there any source to this beyond "trust me"? Not liney necessarily but all of them? Because different parts of the fandom will keep using this logic based on "vibes", a random "leaker" guessing or a mobile "projection" that doesn't show the reality since no one truly knows the playstation and PC sales.

I've seen some alleged japanese mobile ratings showing mizuki, varesa and escoffier flopped. I've seen people bring paimon moe users and say Neuvilete (221k), kinich (125k) and wrio (98k) sold more than varesa (57k), escoffier (50k) and chiori (50k) so men sell more than waifus. Pushing an agenda is kinda easy.

Fox Girl Enjoyer said:
Also doesn't help there was the "Men Wont Play" movement in China in regards to Girls Frontline 2. Genshin wasn't involved in it, but it was basically gacha fans getting upset at omni pandering. Notice how none of the gacha games do it anymore
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Other sure but hoyo other games are the exception. Star Rail is still producing 5* husbandos, way less than women sure but you will get at least at least 3-4 per year and they're all tall handsome guys with heavy screentime push. Jing yuan, dan heng, blade and aventurine are very popular in china.

ZZZ also started goonerish but wanted to get women in the game by upgrading lighter to a very meta 5* (he was 4* in beta), giving harumasa for free and pushing Hugo fanservice. Maybe it didn't work and they won't bother again but they tried pandering to men and women.

Meanwhile genshin will go 2 years without a new 5* tall husbando. Like, would it really kill the company if they upgraded ororon to a 5* like they did with lighter?

Fox Girl Enjoyer said:
The 5.0 livestream all but confirmed this. They said they were listening to feedback (despite not giving two shits before) and even Da Wei went on to say Genshin was returning to its roots.
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I agree and i have memed it myself, but the fandom will really NEVER let Da Wei live this down lol. Anytime i see someone on genshin subs pushing agenda, the "return to roots" is mentioned. Maybe "returns to roots" meant honkai 3 style of powercreep and units that require specific premium supports plus banner weapons that only 1 person can use well.

I disagree that he listened to feedback tho, i think he doesn't give a fuck and fake cried unironically. All the issues that made me quit genshin pre-natlan are still here and many got worse. I only returned to genshin because the other gacha i was playing DIED lol (this isnt funny).

Fox Girl Enjoyer said:
This is why Natlan might have felt off. It was trying to get people back and desperately not repeat the mistakes with Fontaine.
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Hmm, i can see how mavuika and the AQ might be a response to furina, but furina ended up incredibly popular regardless. The official hoyolab pool at the start and end of 2024 had her as to number 1 female character.

If that was the goal they overcorrected. I only rolled mavuika for meta and i still stand the bike is dumb. Maybe she DID sell a lot by being hot and overpowered but did it work in bringing the players back? I don't really know.

If Nod-krai is a response to natlan feedback then we'll see. God knows how much salt will be mined if the men are few and thrash.

4* durin, standard banner varka (mizuki tier) and dottore dying so an innocent clone is playable would be awful but hilarious.
 
Daddy's Little Kitten said:
If it's as bad as you're saying, this thing is EoSing in a couple of weeks.

This is their video for their global "soft" launch. 6.7k views in a day and 51 commnets of people mostly telling them to advertise the game better.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=V3xUsusZ_QU
Discord stats are abysmal, but there's people there...
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I looked at the Male MC and it's literally Dan Heng in different clothes, even if it's wrong I can't unsee it now.
 
Update: I had enough for about two 10-pulls, and this happened.

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All I need now is
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Then the Natlan roster will be complete (for now).

Mark my words, vengeance Granny will be mine!

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Clancee said:
Am I the only one who found this part kind of weird? The final part of the archon quest touches about how she's been forced to act for 500 years. She's now free and never has to act again, yet her story quest basically starts with their aim being to get her to act again.
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1) Furina is free of acting/pretending to be an Archon. Some Fontaine people stop worshipping her, some still fond of her for theatre skill/performance.
Forcalors is/was happy that Furina is the genuine, innocent and loving for theatre related stuffs and no more burden upon Furina. This part to me is Forcalors being greedy and gambling on Furina pretending to be an Archon till the time comes, without giving Furina any further knowledge. And who cares, despite so called prophecy and no such disaster ever happens to Fontaine for hundreds of years, it's fine for it to happen because Neuvillette get to learn to be sympathy to Fontaine people.

Pretty much some part of Fontaine archon quest and Neuv's story quest was him noticing time changes - people are willing to help and protect each other (less racist to Melusine) and have sympathy/understanding of not being able to help other misfortune (Navia and that one Melusine in his story quest).

2) I don't remember much or maybe even mix up with 4.3 event quest (Chiori and Chevy debute). Technically, Furina was afraid of people hating her and kind of wanting to be herself more. But none of the movie/theatre troupe members hate her and need someone experience enough (director/manager) to help finish off one last play, paying tribute to the lost member.


LucasSomething said:
I'm sorry but is there any source to this beyond "trust me"? Not liney necessarily but all of them? Because different parts of the fandom will keep using this logic based on "vibes", a random "leaker" guessing or a mobile "projection" that doesn't show the reality since no one truly knows the playstation and PC sales.
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The closet I can get.
Genshin app revenue from 2020 to 2025
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Inazuma, July 2021
Sumeru, August 2022 - Fontaine, August 2023 - Natlan, August 2024.

Let's say usually games would stabilize after a while. One would expect or hope performance would stabilize around Sumeru and keep it that way til Fontaine. Unfortunately, despite Neuvilette (late Sep 2023) , Furina (Nov 2023) and Arle (April 2024) right after Neuv rerun (March-Arpil 2024), none of them come close to Sumeru high.
Kinda impressive that Nilou (Sep 2022) performed quite well, near Nahida (Nov 2022). Wanderer kinda drop off then Alhaitham pick up again in Lunar New Year 2023 and ..... Dehya (March 2023) below $100 mil.

I'm not gonna do speculation with reasons for dropping off beside "people move on and stop playing". I'm tired of gender war, I'll refrain from this.
 
Hammr2 said:
The closet I can get.
Genshin app revenue from 2020 to 2025
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Is it #reliable tho? I've seen this site before but for another case.


This only shows until november, number of downloads dropped over time but never too drastically that would imply the game is dying, but not being saved either assuming it still get 2.5~ kk per month.

(This one is paid, bleh)

(according to this genshin made 1.3 in 2022, 1.9 in 2023 and 0.7~ in 2024). I saw a site saying genshin gets 14 million players daily and increased every month but i dont know how they could possibly have that info so i dont trust it).

I mean, it probably did get less players but it's never as simple as it sounds. Genshin is 5 year old and the gacha landscape isn't the same anymore. Star rail released near fontaine, and WuWa near ZZZ. Love and deep space probably stole a lot of female fans. Pokemon TCG made so much money every other gacha made less that month (no wonder hoyo is making their own pokemon). There are at least half a dozen high budget open world urban gachas in the works. Even arknights wants that genshin money.

Not even whales have the money to spend on multiple games. The people who left genshin for lack of husbando probably went to star rail anyway.
 
There are no reliable sales figures anywhere, everything is just wild guesses based on autists divining meaning from limited app store data. Only Mihoyo have that data and they ain't saying shit. People trying to use these made up numbers to start slap fights are fucking retarded. Hell, the chart posted by Hammr2 is only based on iOS and Android data, so its missing PC and PS Store data which would be a good chunk of revenue and doesn't say if it's global or just china only.
 
Hammr2 said:
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Man, Augusta and blue gun girl and black/white man got me like 👀

Those are some cool designs and with how rare men are in this game, I'll take what I can get. Been waiting for Phrolova since forever so naturally she's on the pull list. Next to hypothetical Scar although I bet it's a La Signora situation at this point. Think it's a meme already in the fandom

Anyway, more Rememento. It gives you warnings for playtime. Got a "you have been playing for an hour. Excessive gaming can affect your life.". OK

Thankfully, I seldom do put more than an hour into it so.....

Moving on, unlocked dailies and whatnot but there's fuck all to do in that regard. Finally also unlocked equipment, but the game is kinda stingy with mats.

Also, my goodness, the not-resin distribution. So you know in Star Rail, if you do a single Callyx at max (six waves) for mats and it costs 60 TB power?

Yeah, here it costs 120. Which is insane when your cap is 300. Even WuWa, where the cap is 240, your double-ups for mats cost 80 - bosses notwithstanding.

It's worth noting that you get a reward every single time you level up your rank. And what is the reward? Resin regen items. Huh, neat. Also I can only get mats for one class of character at the moment, which is kinda lame.

On the flipside, I pulled two five stars in a single ten pull. Neat.

Anyway, onto the story beats. The talking building got corrupted by evil wtich magic and now he's....whatever the fuck this is.
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Oh lovely, another cutesy mascot to be annoying and retarded. Also the cutscene where the flying fuck explains the purpose of the witch hunters and how basically we must find and destroy the seven gnosis' before the witch cult find them to revive their evil god of evil evilness, is really bad.

It's hard to take this grand plot seriously when this flying fuck is bouncing all over the place and ends the whole thing with an out of place laughing fit. Why is he laughing?

The plot makes it a point of saying that the flying fuck, as a result of getting corrupted by the fuck-you dragon that came and tried to smite the witch hunters' HQ, had to revert into a backup body which is what flying fuck is. In addition to that, Flying Fuck "age-regressed", meaning that he became more childlike and immature but still arrogant and has lost his memories - to an extent.

...Ok.

We also find out what happened to the girl we failed to save at the beginning. She was transformed into a witch and is evil. So, essentially, it's a situation like Traveler where the sibling becomes a high-ranking member of the Abyss Order, but it's very hard to care. Like stupid hard to care because we don't know who this girl is and what our relationship with her is all about. We just ran around with her in a burning village and watched her got nuked by witch bitches and their cult. Appearently our motivation is to stop the witches and save this girl but who the fuck is she? And why does our character care?

At least sibling in Genshin had a bond with us, and we had an established connection, even if they only show up for interlude chapters. But their presence, even when absent, matters.

This also ties into another issue with the main character in Rememento. Gacha main protags are blank slates to an extent, which is fine. But they also speak or say stuff when moving or opening chests, or have voice lines in cutscenes. Or well, when they sprint even.

But here, we're mute. The only voice lines you will hear are combat lines. Groans and grunts and that's it. Not even a line when using ults. Use MC in the overworld? Well, say hello to dead silence. It's so weird. It really bugged me to a point where I just benched MC because that was really odd to me, and I grew to hate it.

Rover doesn't have a sibling to save and is not really a charisma bomb either but Rover actually feels like a character and that motherfucker actually speaks and says shit. Trailblazer too. Even if we are supposed to impose on them, at least give them some semblance of existence beyond a model.

Speaking of the writing, it reads really badly.
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What?
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Truly, Jeremy. She's supposed to say "hmph" here.

Well, that was an experience.

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Daddy's Little Kitten said:
WuWa does the same if you've been playing for 3 hours straight. I guess it's a chink thing.
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I can forgive three hours. One is pathetic though lol.

I am kinda just enjoying the awful on display here at this point. It's not the worst game ever, though. It's more like oatmeal with skimmed milk. Bland and not exciting, but nutritious and edible. Gameplay functions and exploration is fine, and there's no sprint stamina, even on mounts. Mounts are awesome! I want more mounts.

I haven't gone too hard into exploration, though, because controller support go brr.

The story as a concept is not bad either. It's just presented really weirdly, and the script is written or translated or idk, AI-generated poorly. In short, it's very unpolished, but I can't find myself going too hard on it because, again, it's at 1.4 and the game launched in Korea last December. So it's very green, plus the studio is small.

So while I enjoy making fun of and trash-talking it. I'll be the first one to take it all back if it picks itself up by its bootstraps and fix its shit.

But IDK, looking into the studio, they have only released this game, but announced some kind of MMORPG a year ago, but nothing has come of it. Or maybe it has but their marketing skills are kinda shit.

I get the feeling that they don't have a lot of resources hence why Rememento feels so cheap (that fucking Wilhem scream) but I think it could have been mitigated if they focused on one game at a time. I cannot predict the success in this game either, but I'll admit I'm getting invested in its progression now, hence my posts often revolving around it now.
 
If it's any consolation, they posted this on Discord:

@everyone
## To All Who Have Walked With Us Through the Rememento - White Shadow

Greetings, Warden.
On May 28th, Rememento – White Shadow began its journey through a global soft launch.


Though the road ahead is long—and not without its stumbles and shadows—we are humbled by the light you’ve brought to this world.

From every land and every hour, your voices have reached us. For that, we extend our deepest thanks. And in return, we are walking with you—resolving the issues you face, one step at a time:

** 1. App Crashing on Certain Mobile Devices **

- Some mobile users are experiencing crashes after the Unreal Engine logo.
- A fix is nearly complete and will be deployed as soon as it passes store review—even if that means over the weekend.

** 2. Translation Quality Issues **

- Rememento – White Shadow supports multiple languages, but we know some translations fall short.
- We’re actively reviewing and refining them to ensure your journey feels just as immersive in every tongue.


** 3. Regional Accessibility **

- Due to the nature of our soft launch, the game is currently unavailable in certain countries.
- We are preparing full-service rollouts through publishing partners to ensure that no Warden is left behind.
- With their help, we will deliver a higher-quality experience to every corner of the world.


We know there is still much work to be done.
But your presence—your courage, curiosity, and patience—means the world to us.

We are committed to walking this path beside you, shaping Rememento-White Shadow into something worthy of your time, heart, and imagination.

Thank you, Warden.
Always.

With respect,
The Rememento – White Shadow Team
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Is this where I find that "DEVS LISTENED" meme and retool it for Blackstorm?

Jokes aside, I wanna see it before I believe it, but hey, at least they are aware of the situation. Now gimme controller support. I ain't no piano player!
 
Hammr2 said:
Teasing Phrolova, Augusta, Juno and three more Resonators.
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japan is apparently going apeshit over chisa. considering the livestream was during the late evening japan time those are just the nerds staying online at home. can't wait and see what happens when all the normies take note over the weekend :story:

Troon Whisperer said:
Whelp, I look forward to my sister going bankrupt whaling on this. She fucking loves those horse girls after she went to Japan and they were everywhere due to the first anniversary ads.
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I really wonder why they had to tie themselves to real horses, that fucked them over repeatedly. I still remember the anime airing in fucking 2018 when the game was supposed to come out, but apparently held up due to some rights issues, which also made them miss the big 2020 corona boost (it came out february 2021, when half the world was slowly opening up again).

didn't keep cygames from dumping loadsa money into it. the production quality is crazy. the race announcers alone, plus center and backing vocals for every possible horse-fu if she wins

Noebel said:
It even has lore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHshbPUOXo4 It's from a timed event long gone so you won't see it in the game now.
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>en dub
wasn't that the same patch with young ping and dust?
 
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