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Isn't Kazuha basically getting nerfed when 3.0 comes out since Aero doesn't interact with Dendro?
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Still Swirls with everything else except Geo - just pair him with a Pyro character so you have easy access to the king of reactions.
Hell, I had Kazuha as my follow-up to Klee - Klee throws out Jumpty Dumpty, Kazuha sets up a plumge to draw enemies and the bombs in. If anything, Dendro might make Pyro reactions better, considering fire likes to spread - Swirl is honestly more of a bonus as far as reactions, but it’s 4-Piece Artifact set shredding resistances will keep it viable
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The internet greatly exaggerates; I'd say it's not that Keqing is unplayable, but more than she just doesn't really keep up with the world scaling and falls behind compared to newer characters (with better elements for reactions). Plus, many domains in Mondstat and a couple in Liyue feel designed to make her nearly useless, so if you rely on Keqing as your sole source of damage only pain and suffering awaits.
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It's not that simple since he can swirl other elements and those swirls can proc dendro reactions who would be very strong (in theory?) since you build him with max EM anyway. For a random example:
1-Collei bursts and keeps applying dendro:
2-Bennet bursts -> enemy is now burning (pyro+dendro)
3-Kazuha press E+Q -> swirling pyro -> re-procs burn with high Em -> burning does high dmg over time
Kazuha vv+buff also isnt wasted if the dendro character is just a support who doesnt need it anyway. For example, in a comp like Raiden/Dendro sup/Xinqiu/Kazuha, you would have Kazuha swirling elec+water and ignore dendro, which would be fine. He most likely wont be good for double dendro teams tho since those probably focus on a dendro dps doing triple reactions but if it's only 1 dendro he should work well enough.
Zhongli on the other hand is argueably buffed, since he can shred dendro for free making him, ironically, the best dendro support for now. Solo Albedo might also work surprisingly well since he cant remove dendro (no reaction) and his burst gives 125 em.
Yeah but you'd think Keqing is anemo traveler tier by how some youtubers (i'm sorry) rate her on tier lists (sorry²). I plan to use her on a beidou/xq/kaz team and i can see that working great. Will try it at current abyss for fun too.
edit: Chart i found explaining dendro reactions on the beta, click to enchance
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I made a second account just to join its world on my main and steal resources from it. It's also fun sometimes just to obliterate low level enemies with an endgame character, and it's an easy way to get some co-op achievements if you don't want to interact with people.
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Is Hu Tao getting a banner? If so, I need to get her to C3, been waiting for that
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I haven't followed the leaks, but I imagine she'll soon see a rerun banner around 3.1-3.2 as her last banner was eight months ago.
Did a 10 pull, got Heizou, so said fuck it and decided to roll for the midget Megumin.
Already have Kazuha, probably not going to roll for Yoimiya so will be good to go for version 3.0.
LucasSomething
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>combat gameplaywise
+Great energy generation and short cds. 6s tap for 3 particles and 9s hold for 4.
+Surprisingly strong "sub"dps. My kazuha has 930 EM and usually a E+Q is enough to kill the clear any enemy camp.
+Actually good against non pullable enemies. His burst has massive AoE so enemies cant just walk away like venti.
+The most convenient CC ever since it NEVER misses. Sucrose skill and venti burst can be unreliable sometimes, but with kaz you just get in the middle of everyone and hold E. Being surrounded is great for kaz.
+Kaz has an elemental priority that makes it way easier to control what his skills infuse with, it's pyro>hydro>elec>cryo.
+Kaz can also use whatever element HE is affected with (like sayu) so that allows some unique strats. For example, if you stand on bennet burst, kaz will be pyrofied so he will ALWAYS spin pyro. This makes him useful against most elemental creatures, like electronid or slimes, unlike other anemos. You can also let yourself get hit so kazuha can spin that element.
+spamable free gathering CC on skill. His hold skill is 9s and leaves pull for some seconds and light enemies will actually get pushed up and stuck for a few seconds.
+If you REALLY want, you can still be build him as an anemo dps, since his scalings are pretty good.
+Oh YEAH, he buffs people. with 800 em he gives 32% elem dmg which is way too high and makes him the best support on most comps out there, way more than venti or sucrose. My ayato goes from hitting 7-8k to 11-13k after kaz buff+vv.
+You can actually DODGE anything by timing skill right, making it very safe and fun.
CONS
-Kaz's skill cd is argueably too short for some comps. Sucrose long CD and ttds makes her a better partner for xiao for example. Kaz would still be worth using as a subdps tho.
-Kaz's skill + cd have slightly longer animations than venti/sucr/jean so he takes a liiiiitle more field time, altho i'd argue it more than worth it.
-Kaz's plunge will shatter enemies, so if you wanna play him on freeze be aware of that.
-Unless you're fragging ruin guards or hilichurls, solo anemo Kaz simply cannot burst off CD (unlike venti) which is huge since thats where most of his dmg+stunlock comes from. This means you either get a ton of ER or an energy sword like sac or amenona, losing some em.
-Farming 5* EM VV can be straight up impossible, as my brother spent months worth of resin and never got a 5* Hat.
-Kaz isnt really that strong until you give him a full EM VV set which might only happen past AR50.
Exploration
+Easily the most convenient vertical mobility skill in the game, very short cd and much faster than venti's. You can use his skill in the air so you can cheat gliding challenges and stuff.
+He lowers running stamina and pairs nice with sayu too.
Character
+He's a goddamn exiled wandering wind samurai. You know what to expect.
+He has a good balance between cute and cool so both men and women like him.
+He's a cool guy in-universe and friends with many cool people, also has cool feats and a memorable story moment.
+Personality wise i recomend hearing his voice lines and doing his quest to see if you like him or not.
+Great energy generation and short cds. 6s tap for 3 particles and 9s hold for 4.
+Surprisingly strong "sub"dps. My kazuha has 930 EM and usually a E+Q is enough to kill the clear any enemy camp.
+Actually good against non pullable enemies. His burst has massive AoE so enemies cant just walk away like venti.
+The most convenient CC ever since it NEVER misses. Sucrose skill and venti burst can be unreliable sometimes, but with kaz you just get in the middle of everyone and hold E. Being surrounded is great for kaz.
+Kaz has an elemental priority that makes it way easier to control what his skills infuse with, it's pyro>hydro>elec>cryo.
+Kaz can also use whatever element HE is affected with (like sayu) so that allows some unique strats. For example, if you stand on bennet burst, kaz will be pyrofied so he will ALWAYS spin pyro. This makes him useful against most elemental creatures, like electronid or slimes, unlike other anemos. You can also let yourself get hit so kazuha can spin that element.
+spamable free gathering CC on skill. His hold skill is 9s and leaves pull for some seconds and light enemies will actually get pushed up and stuck for a few seconds.
+If you REALLY want, you can still be build him as an anemo dps, since his scalings are pretty good.
+Oh YEAH, he buffs people. with 800 em he gives 32% elem dmg which is way too high and makes him the best support on most comps out there, way more than venti or sucrose. My ayato goes from hitting 7-8k to 11-13k after kaz buff+vv.
+You can actually DODGE anything by timing skill right, making it very safe and fun.
CONS
-Kaz's skill cd is argueably too short for some comps. Sucrose long CD and ttds makes her a better partner for xiao for example. Kaz would still be worth using as a subdps tho.
-Kaz's skill + cd have slightly longer animations than venti/sucr/jean so he takes a liiiiitle more field time, altho i'd argue it more than worth it.
-Kaz's plunge will shatter enemies, so if you wanna play him on freeze be aware of that.
-Unless you're fragging ruin guards or hilichurls, solo anemo Kaz simply cannot burst off CD (unlike venti) which is huge since thats where most of his dmg+stunlock comes from. This means you either get a ton of ER or an energy sword like sac or amenona, losing some em.
-Farming 5* EM VV can be straight up impossible, as my brother spent months worth of resin and never got a 5* Hat.
-Kaz isnt really that strong until you give him a full EM VV set which might only happen past AR50.
Exploration
+Easily the most convenient vertical mobility skill in the game, very short cd and much faster than venti's. You can use his skill in the air so you can cheat gliding challenges and stuff.
+He lowers running stamina and pairs nice with sayu too.
Character
+He's a goddamn exiled wandering wind samurai. You know what to expect.
+He has a good balance between cute and cool so both men and women like him.
+He's a cool guy in-universe and friends with many cool people, also has cool feats and a memorable story moment.
+Personality wise i recomend hearing his voice lines and doing his quest to see if you like him or not.
tl;dr: YES unless you REALLY want to save for hu tao c2 or sumeru. Alternatively, hu tao c2 isnt that much of a game changer so you should only go for it if you love her that much.
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Thank you, this was a great info. Also: My bad: I meant Hu Tao C1. Thats what I want.
I'm going to be whale-adjacent I suspect.
Also, I pulled what I had yesterday already... I got Kequing. I like her, so its kinda fine, but still. I REALLY didn't need her.
LucasSomething
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If you save from now on, you should have enough to ensure, especially with the monthly blessing. There are no signs of hu tao on 3.0 (allegedly tinari and zong+ganyu) so thats 3~ months minimum if she appears in 3.1. Combined with arquipelago, sumeru rewards and monthly fates, even without spending you should guarantee it and have some spares to roll for homa or someone else.
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Baizhu please 
McSchlomo
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All good points. Problem is that I'm not a patient man and will see characters I also want in the meantime (like Kazuha). So far I had quite a lot of luck since I played. Long stretches of uninteresting characters, followed by perfect banners that I could pull to my hearts content. Right now I'm in the "I kind of want all of these" phase.
But its a very good point that Hu Tao is probably a lot further away than I thought.
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This patch summed up;
Like I get he has a banner right now but he has more dialogue both from the character and about him than Albedo now.
Like I get he has a banner right now but he has more dialogue both from the character and about him than Albedo now.
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Apparently New Code - XTNDKTEBWA59
No clue where it came from, but Primos are Primos
No clue where it came from, but Primos are Primos
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I pulled my Kaz and a copy of Hei so I get to live ini the VV dungeon alongside the XP/Mora leylines for the foreseeable future.
At least the isles were like, hey we know people might not have enough of those sea cucumber things, so we'll spawn in like 50 for you
At least the isles were like, hey we know people might not have enough of those sea cucumber things, so we'll spawn in like 50 for you
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They are updating artifact strongbox in 3.0. It should include VV.
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That will give me a place to dump these hundreds of Maiden's sets at least. I am looking forward to the strongbox update though, so many of these domains just suck to farm
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I get what you mean but Kazuha was the only 5* who released without his own quest (which was pathetic) and wasnt a "main character" on any event. His rythm game "event" was literally him giving you an instrument and leaving while itto's had a mini story around it and many mentions. I dont count the inazuma poetry event since that was more of a big crossover.
His unique quest sword is a mediocre atk% sword so it's not even worth using on kazuha which is lame af. I also dont think he's talking that much? For every sentence kazuha has, fisch has 8 and i start mashing every time she is on screen.
Sadly we'll probably keep farming VV anyway since EM is the rarest drop so you'd need massive luck to get one from strong boxes. Thankfully VV domain is also the quickest to farm if you have venti/kaz so there is that.
3.0 will also come with the dendro artifact domain so i'll probably spend a month there farming a good set dps and em set for the eventual dendro characters i get. btw dendro traveler allegedly only generates 2 particles per skill (8s) so RIP, it was too good to be true.
also cleared the most recent abyss, Kazoo really is the bestest.
Maybe a wacky freeze team wasnt the best on the 2nd side but oh well it worked, didnt it? 12-3 with the freeze spam and worm boss were really annyoing but the abyss worm seems slower than the normal worm so if you time your bursts well you wont miss it.
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Scaramouche wanters in absolute tatters after new rumors spread that he's basically a totally unrecognizable character. Apparently he's named "Wanderer" and uses an Anemo delusion. Also, his personality and design may be very different.
This is obviously hearsay from Twitter "leakers" with no confirmation or context of WHY he would be so different, but it's not stopping the dooming and coping on Reddit.
This is obviously hearsay from Twitter "leakers" with no confirmation or context of WHY he would be so different, but it's not stopping the dooming and coping on Reddit.
