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I'll be blunt, if this is even close to true, Dendro feels like garbage. Forget DPS, or even Sub-DPS, this looks lame even as a support.
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If true, then Dendro is definitely being relegated to “I need this element for a Puzzle”.
Hopefully they add new reactions in, otherwise Dendro’s likely going to be like Electro on Launch - when we were better off building them as Physical Attackers and ignoring their Elements
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No way, we are getting Geo on launch 2.0!
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It’s telling how little I remember about Geo on Launch, considering until Zhongli we only had what, Noelle, Ninguang, and the Traveller - am I missing anyone? And two of those were just different forms of “Makes a Shield”.
Also, Ninguang I feel needs an update - her attack animations are way too stiff, nothing goes from attack to attack smoothly. She’d still be a utility pick for finding Ore and Building the Wall, but can she be less clunky when attacking?
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Intensified sounds okay for 2x grass/elec dps but definitely worse than vape/melt. Overgrown sounds like the clam artifact set turned into a reaction so who knows. Burning was already here but that's a slow dot scaling with EM so i dont think will more popular than vape. It really depends on how the scaling works.
But either way, this makes me all dendro characters become low priority for me. I wasnt expecting dendro to be #meta or even great but it should at least have reactions with all everything else for the sake of fun. Like, why is there no christalize or swirl AT ALL? You cant even do an itto/albedo/gorou/dendro team because there is no christalyze so there is no shields. It's so nonsensically immersion breaking it makes the game feel unfinished.
If you dont know yet, you can cancel her attack animations early simply by walking, aka hold foward and mash click for a bizarrely faster fire rate. Also works with Klee btw, it's not that hard, just try it out. But yea ninguang is weirdly clunkly because she doesnt have an actual "combo", she literally only has one attack with 3 different animations that are picked at random. AFAIK she's the only character in the entire game like this.
But either way, this makes me all dendro characters become low priority for me. I wasnt expecting dendro to be #meta or even great but it should at least have reactions with all everything else for the sake of fun. Like, why is there no christalize or swirl AT ALL? You cant even do an itto/albedo/gorou/dendro team because there is no christalyze so there is no shields. It's so nonsensically immersion breaking it makes the game feel unfinished.
If you dont know yet, you can cancel her attack animations early simply by walking, aka hold foward and mash click for a bizarrely faster fire rate. Also works with Klee btw, it's not that hard, just try it out. But yea ninguang is weirdly clunkly because she doesnt have an actual "combo", she literally only has one attack with 3 different animations that are picked at random. AFAIK she's the only character in the entire game like this.
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Unless they’re still testing the other Dendro reactions internally, yeah that entire element is likely DoA. Unless the Dendro Archon is just stupidly, game breakingly busted, there might not be a point rolling for any Dendro character and just using the Traveler for whatever puzzles wind up needing it…
…I have had Klee pretty much since I started playing this goddamn game, and I never knew that was a thing. I mean, I have her in a team with Kazuha and Ganyu, so extra damage from her isn’t as vital, but for fucks sakes.
Ninguang’s animations only make sense if you bullshit it as “she’s literally throwing money at her problems”, but even then it doesn’t change that she’s still clunky as fuck, it just gives an excuse. Her Trump Wall and the fact she marks Ores on the map are the only real reasons to actually slot her into a team, and one if those is MUCH more important than the other.
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If you're playing freeze, you get 15% from cryo resonance (you want another cryo to battery ayaka anyway) and 20-40 from pc blizzard strayer so you want base 45% crit at most. If you're not using 4pc BS or Cryo res then well, just get as much crit you can without sacrificing atk, element and crit dmg.
My ayaka has 76% but that's thanks to jade cutter (44%) and great 2pc hybrids. I generally ensure all my attackers have at least 50% crit (31 from hat, 20~ from artifacts) cause the last thing i want is to throw a huge burst and watch it not crit at all.
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Ok, and what's your critDMG, for comparison?
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Gotta check real quick, i finally tried out giving her some copium 4pc blizzard set to see it's better, havent tested much tho.
>Jade Cutter + 2pc shim 2pc bliz crit dmg circlet = 2335 atk 76% crit 195% CD (the one i used before)
normal atk on hilichu deals 4637
>mist splitter + 4pc bliz + atk% circlet = 2441 atk 33% crit 184% CD (the one i tried yesterday)
normal atk on hilichu deals 5407 (2 mistsplitter stacks)
btw i tested, an atk% hat is actually stronger than a crit dmg hat when i go mist+4pc, probably because of the high weapon atk (674) that makes ayaka go past 1k base. (see kids, dont neglect atk)
Either way it's not perfect but it's still high end numbers relying on 5* weapons. People will generally tell you to have 1/2 crit ratio (like 60/120) but the truth is that crit rate starts at 5% so scales much better IMO it's a higher priority, thus why crit rate hats are so good (5 to 36 is 6x more crits).
This also depends on what weapon, ascenscion and set your character has. My xinqiu has 52/111 which might sound low but it's pretty good for someone without a crit weapon or ascension, and my ER rolls increase dmg bonus from emblem.
IMO If you can reach +45cr/90cd without crit weapons or ascenscions then you're already on the strong side of the scale. Even if your ratio is "low" but you got good offensive rolls (em/er/atk%) then it's fine. Like, my ayaka could surely have more rolls in crit dmg but she also rolled +40% ER which i'm really grateful for. The 4pc i'm using has slightly worse crit rolls but the set bonus compensates for it.
Edit: I forgot to mention but a leaker who got a lot of stuff right recently leaked the next patch banners, according to them
2.7
First half: Yelan / Xiao + Barbara, Noele and Yanfei
Second Half: Itto solo + Shinobu +2
Guess i'm skipping everyone this patch again, more time to save for kazuha.
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Yes, I know about general crit. Just never played freeze and wanted to check how ratio changes due to BS. Sadly, the only salvageable pieces gave me 5/178 and 36/140 with crit chance hat. That's 80/90 Ayaka, but without any weapons.Guess I need to farm more.
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You get 40% crit from BS and 15% from double cryo (would be 91 with that crit rate hat) and Ayaka gets 38% crit dmg with ascenscion so keep those in mind, shouldnt be hard to get at leaast 75/150. If you're using an atk% weapon then go with crit dmg hat and if it's a crit dmg weapon and your rate is good, try an atk% hat. Ayaka has a lot of good weapon options too. I used HoD cause that 28/44 crit ratio is no joke but there is blackcliff, blacksword and amenoma too.
This reminds me that i forgot to say the next weapon banners! According to leak they are:
First: Aqua Simulacra (yelan bow) + Jade spear (xiao spear)
Second: Redhorn (itto claymore) + memory of dust (lyue series catalyst, needs shield)
For those who dont know yet, Yelan's bow has the stats at r5:
(This is R5, the bonus at R1 is 16% hp and 20% dmg)
Other than the hp bonus, this is a pretty flexible crit dmg stat stick. Probably isnt best in slot for any other bow dps but definitely usable on all of them. If anyone still lacks a decent 5* bow and spear, this should (in theory) be a decent banner. Redhorn banner is too risky tho since Memory is dust isnt that great.
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I have a four piece Blizzard Strayer on Ayaka, though I generally don't use her in a freeze composition and instead mostly just play her as a solo Cryo DPS. Given artifact RNG, I didn't farm especially hard and ended up with a set that maybe only has one good artifact and the rest passable, with at least one desired substat that got a decent number of rolls. Since I run a Blackcliff on Ayaka due to a complete lack of 5* swords, I end up with 62.2%/171.8% with the +20% Crit boost from Blizzard Strayer permanently active since I'm dashing about in combat to refresh her Cryo Infusion.
Someday, I may start running the domain again to get something better, but I feel no particular rush to do so. Much like Keqing it's not hard to get Ayaka to crit practically all of the time, so once you've got that going the more Crit DMG% you can manage the better.
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Official art of the next patch leaked
Weirdly enough. there is still no signs of livestream for next patch when they should've been officially revealed by now. More fuel to the theory that next patch might be delayed.
Weirdly enough. there is still no signs of livestream for next patch when they should've been officially revealed by now. More fuel to the theory that next patch might be delayed.
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How to beat Raiden Shogun???
I had a lightning/pyro/water and Noelle team. Shit hard tbh. But then she locks u up chastity belt style and then Yae shows up like "lol teehee imma letchu in on a secret" and you get charmed. Anyway I would die but then get revived instant which helps
But then her health was at like __ and then I died and didn't revive so she killed me. Sigh...
My traveler i switch to geo because lightning is weak iirc.
Should I use Ayaka she's only lvl 50 tho
I had a lightning/pyro/water and Noelle team. Shit hard tbh. But then she locks u up chastity belt style and then Yae shows up like "lol teehee imma letchu in on a secret" and you get charmed. Anyway I would die but then get revived instant which helps
But then her health was at like __ and then I died and didn't revive so she killed me. Sigh...
My traveler i switch to geo because lightning is weak iirc.
Should I use Ayaka she's only lvl 50 tho
LucasSomething
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What is your team and world level? Story Raiden is immune to electro so you must change that for someone else. She's really spammy so you'll get hit often, having max possible level characters and artifacts helps a lot here, a reliable healer like bennet too.
You should train your Ayaka regardless, she is really good against bosses and can use many good swords, even 3*s (cold steel and HoD), just make sure you dont miss your burst, use it after she teleports.
If all else fails, remember that you can cook atk/def food buffs and craft potions. This one gives electro res and it's pretty easy to make.
If you have Razor built up he's actually surprisingly good against raiden cause his burst gives him 80% electro res but still hits physical so its fine.
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Burst? I just got rank 40 so then I think its level 5? If I decrease level how to get it back? Is she difficult at lower level
I was using Traveler but I gave them geo and I maxed out their constellation/Ayaka, Xiangling, Barbara, and Noelle.
I have no idea what to do after the revive thing wears off.
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skill = the free elemental spell that has a certain cd and generates elemental particles (colored balls)
Burst = the strong super attack that you need to charge first by getting elemental particles
Example:
xiangling skill = guoba fire breath -> 1 pyro particle per hit -> 3 pyro energy
Xiangling burst = fire spear tornado -> 80 burst cost (expensive)
As soon as you unlock world level 5 you can lower it up to 1 point by clicking it on your profile, but you can can only change it back the next day. World level changes enemy and boss scaling so if you prefer, consider lowering the world level just for this boss then return tomorrow.
Traveler is kinda weak and barbara skill making you wet might make your life harder cause you get electrocharged. Xiangling burst is too expensive without a second pyro person generating energy (like bennet) but if it's the best you can have you can still try.
If you're not killing the boss, your dmg must be too low. See if you have any good 4* artifacts with Make sure your artifacts have OFFENSIVE main stats that rise each level (atk% hourglass / elemental dmg goblet / crit rate hat) and get it on level 12 or 16. You should have some berserker, sojourner and exile pieces from chest, use 2 of those for set bonus.
Also dont forget to level your good weapons and ayaka! At rank 40 you unlock the final weapon material domains so you should get your best weapons on level 70-80 at least by this point. They're too hard for you to beat at your level but you can try matchmaking multiplayer and see if better players can carry you. Also also, bring food and use buffs. Sweet madames are easy to farm and heal a lot.
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I'm going to toss some primo's for Itto's weapon for Noelle, but yeah I'm skipping the characters. (Unless Gorou is on Itto's banner, I need a copy of him)