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Did anybody else think Goldberg vs Regal was a banger? I love snug matches man. No chairs, no thumbtacks, no bullshit, just a straight wrestling match.
You talking about the one that got Regal canned, more likely the last straw cause he was by his own admission an unreliable drunk at this time so they wanted him gone. That aside it was a good interesting match but I hate how its seen as this legendary shoot where Regal was pulling a Bob Roop on ol' Greenberg aside from some basic arm lock chains he was more sloppy than anything, that rope spot where he just staggers and turns around to do the shittiest looking headbutt the fuck was that I mean who does a chestbutt?
 
Basically, if you write it down on paper, Tony does a make good for the fans of America and gives them a stadium show in a year WWE has taken wrestlemania out of America it sounds fucking awesome. It sounds like the perfect shot against WWE but if you actually factor in the real world, and the fact that none of the people crying about wrestlemania are actually gonna boycott wrestlemania then you’ll realize he would just be shouting into the ether. You realize if he did it on any other day, he would just be putting a target on his back saying hey WWE come and get me and you realize there really is no great way for Tony to go about this.
yeah
on a blank slate it's perfect but Tony's a mong so he'll fuck anything up in Tony ways and the existing AEW crowds don't like Saudi Arabia but they're absolutely NOT a "USA HOORAY" crowd so you can't really do any internal build-up
 
I think it could work if they built up this big, live two-hour Clash of Chamipons type event that starts on free TV an hour before Mania. You know have this big social media blitz and buy advertising on USA during Smackdown and stuff. You don't build the show around your existing storylines, because you want people to be able to come in not knowing anything about the product. Instead you have someone who's really really good on the mic like MJF come out and run down the audience for 5-10 minutes, put over Saudi, that kind of thing, and then have someone exciting and marketable like Darby come out. He tries to fight MJF, but they are kept apart and that sets up a main event in hour two that's head to head with the lower card at mania.

In between you have all the stuff that's going to sell AEW. You have a hardcore match with weapons and some blood(Nothing too over the top, just something you would have seen in early 2000s WWE with chairs, trash cans and tables and stuff. No pizza cutters or tacks.), you have a spot fest with a ladder or cage, you have a Casino Battle Royale where you parade some old stars people would know out like Jeff Jarrett, Jericho and Edge and Christian, and you build it like Money in the Bank where the winner gets a contract for a world title shot cashable any time, any place. Someone really exciting who actually looks like a fucking wrestler wins, not an old guy, but maybe like a Kenny Omega if he can stay healthy. This is a hook to try and get people watching this who wouldn't usually watch to tune in to AEW to see when the title gets cashed. You pepper a few 2-3 minute squash matches with guys you want to put over in there so the audience has a chance to catch its breath and take a piss.

No Moxley, no death riders, no gay insider storyline bullshit, no back-to-back 30 minute dream matches with no build that exhaust the crowd, just do 10-15 minute matches where you go to the next thing before people get bored. Just quick, punchy attention grabbing stuff.
 
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ESPN fucked up and potentially millions of their subscribers who are paying for ESPN streaming through another service won't be able to watch Wrestlepalooza or indeed any WWE stuff until they get third party deals in place that they somehow managed to overlook until this week.

Streaming is getting as just bad as traditional subscription TV with all the extra ads-ons and "you have this on this tier but not on that one" shit. People are going to click on Wrestlepalooza on their Youtube TV and be asked to pay an extra $30 because the type of ESPN streaming they are already paying for isn't the right one because some dipshits in an office forgot to send some very important e-mails in between flashy press releases.
 
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ESPN fucked up and potentially millions of their subscribers who are paying for ESPN streaming through another service won't be able to watch Wrestlepalooza or indeed any WWE stuff until they get third party deals in place that they somehow managed to overlook until this week.

Streaming is getting as just bad as tradiontional subscritpion TV with all the extra ads-one and "you have this on this tier but not that on that one" shit. People are going to click on Wrestlepalooza on their Youtube TV and be asked to pay an extra $30 because the type of ESPN streaming they are already paying for isn't the right one because some dipshits in an office forgot to send some very important e-mails in between flashy press releases.
Sucks streameast is down. Only way I'd watch it
 
Benefit show for Jeff Cannonball right now live on YouTube and the most obviously trans wrestler ever just came out. Named Bessy(?).
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Geoffrey the Giraffe and ALF just had a stare down then a guy got so stuck in the ropes it took two minutes to get his leg free from the very tight ropes as the camera most of the time just showed the Giraffe walking around but have no fear Geoffrey won and is the inaugural Jeff Cannonball King of Ugly champion.

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What the fuck did I just look at?
 
Taker has been dogshit for a decade plus at this stage and was only ever mediocre at best anyway. He has the character and the whole aura down maybe as well as anyone has ever done it but literally no ones favourite match in the history of wrestling fandom featured Taker as one of the participants.
I admire your courage to say something that stupid.

Taker has at least two Eternal Classics to his name, and I don't even need to name them.
 
You talking about the one that got Regal canned, more likely the last straw cause he was by his own admission an unreliable drunk at this time so they wanted him gone. That aside it was a good interesting match but I hate how its seen as this legendary shoot where Regal was pulling a Bob Roop on ol' Greenberg aside from some basic arm lock chains he was more sloppy than anything, that rope spot where he just staggers and turns around to do the shittiest looking headbutt the fuck was that I mean who does a chestbutt?
LOL Fit Finlay used to headbutt peoples knuckles, remember that? And yeah that is the match I am talking about. I enjoyed it.
 
Drew slams Randy into the ropes(fucking why?) Randy no sells storms out then no sells Drew’s punches literally shrugs at a kid in the crowd then straight up says TWENTY FIVE GOD DAMN YEARS NOBODIES SLAMMED ME IN THE GOD DAMN ROPES

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Too bad money doesn't cure retardation. I remember hearing they wanted Yokozuna back in one of the first shows they had. Do they think all those Legends haven't aged in 30 fucking years?

Wait, did they not recognize that Yoko had been dead for, like, almost 20 years at that point????? They couldn't be THAT fucking stupid.

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Please no, is there anyone (except the Saudis) who would even want to see this? Taker already spent half a decade longer than he should've wrestling, he's had both his hips and knees replaced. I know that he said that Gunter would be the one guy he would want to wrestle but the chance of it ending up going well is very unlikely, just let the old guy rest.

Oh, I have no doubt in my mind we'll see Taker back in the ring. They will pull out every old guy in their arsenal to appease the Saudi marks. It was just announced today that Shawn Michaels is getting both his knees replaced, which would indicate some validity to the rumors that they want a Shawn Michaels match. Wouldn't be surprised if Trips gets a match too.

I guess if there was anyone who would work best with Taker, it would probably be Gunther. He can work slow and methodical. Give him someone of the same size and Gunther could easily make a 5 star match.
 
Wouldn't be surprised if Trips gets a match too.
Really??? You wouldn’t be surprised if the dude whose heart almost fucking exploded gets a match? I’d be pretty goddamn surprised. Saudi money can’t fix literally everything, his heart is what it is and this is 1.5 years from now, in that time he won’t get younger and his heart won’t get better.
 
Drew slams Randy into the ropes(fucking why?) Randy no sells storms out then no sells Drew’s punches literally shrugs at a kid in the crowd then straight up says TWENTY FIVE GOD DAMN YEARS NOBODIES SLAMMED ME IN THE GOD DAMN ROPES

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That clip has been deleted but Randy "CAW with no moves picked yet" Orton isn't really in a position to be critising peoples in ring ability.

One of Vinces bland 00s underpants jobbers that somehow caught on.
 
Really??? You wouldn’t be surprised if the dude whose heart almost fucking exploded gets a match? I’d be pretty goddamn surprised. Saudi money can’t fix literally everything, his heart is what it is and this is 1.5 years from now, in that time he won’t get younger and his heart won’t get better.

No, I wouldn't. Because it's Saudi fucking Arabia and TKO will jump however high the sandniggers tell them.
 
Wait, did they not recognize that Yoko had been dead for, like, almost 20 years at that point????? They couldn't be THAT fucking stupid.
I remember a lot of people saying they shoot wanted Yokozuna. I'm guessing Vince somehow carnied the Royal Family into not-beheading them all when he couldn't bring a 700lbs samoan to them.
Oh, I have no doubt in my mind we'll see Taker back in the ring. They will pull out every old guy in their arsenal to appease the Saudi marks. It was just announced today that Shawn Michaels is getting both his knees replaced, which would indicate some validity to the rumors that they want a Shawn Michaels match. Wouldn't be surprised if Trips gets a match too.

I guess if there was anyone who would work best with Taker, it would probably be Gunther. He can work slow and methodical. Give him someone of the same size and Gunther could easily make a 5 star match.
Unless Hunter and Taker have some freaky new-age cyberpunk hearts that won't shit themselves if their blood pressure goes above "brisk jog during Summertime" we're finally going to see someone other than Owen die in the ring, and it won't be Ric Flair.
 
Who is there out there worth snagging, or are we just talking in a general hypothetical?

Well now that I think about there's really no notable name truly independent wrestlers (who are actually talented and not a joke)available.

Kind of depressing actually.

Edit its crazy to think of all the big name wrestlers who regularly worked the indies in the 90s SGT. Slaughter, Demolition Ax, Jimmy Snuka, Bob Orton, Don Muracco, Honky Tonk Man. Big names of the boom period wrestling at a weekend flea market.

Now most notable talent not working for the big 3 are either retired or dead.
 
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No, I wouldn't. Because it's Saudi fucking Arabia and TKO will jump however high the sandniggers tell them.
Yeah, if Triple H jumps as high as they tell him to he dies. So, again, I’d be pretty goddamn surprised.

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I saw something about Faby Apache working NXT
was that a one-off or is she regularly at Full Sail?
 
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