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BlueArmedDevil said:
Wasn't Jimmy's situation a little different because all the allegations came from his ex who appears to have bpd and was just as equally shitty to him?
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Jimmy had legit mental problems on top of being a heavy alcoholic. He did need genuine help but did not deserve to get blacklisted along side legitimate shitstains. Especially when the company that fired him was happy to wheel out Ric fucking Flair.
 
Caddo Cobgang said:
Jeddah getting the first WrestleMania outside of North America would cause nuclear levels of seethe, I wouldn’t be the biggest fan of it but im almost certain that they can survive enough PR hits like a nuclear bunker and come out mostly unscathed like I’d rather WrestleMania stay in the US or Canada because I wanna watch it at night, but there’s many in the IWC who will complain despite it doing nothing
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This industry has put on shows outside of the USA for ages. You (I don't mean you specifically) have to be AEW fan levels of retarded to be upset that Wrestlemania will be in the land of oil and stoning women.
 
Caddo Cobgang said:
Jeddah getting the first WrestleMania outside of North America would cause nuclear levels of seethe, I wouldn’t be the biggest fan of it but im almost certain that they can survive enough PR hits like a nuclear bunker and come out mostly unscathed like I’d rather WrestleMania stay in the US or Canada because I wanna watch it at night, but there’s many in the IWC who will complain despite it doing nothing
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They should of chosen the UK or Australia
 
RasterTatth said:
Basically things couldn’t be better for WWE.

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I don't really give a shit how much money WWE makes since I'm not an investor in TKO or an employee for them, my concern as a customer is what they charge for their product, but it is insane the amount of money WWE has gotten in new deals and all of the branching out they're doing since being sold to TKO.
I'm wondering if WWE going away from Peacock/NBC would mean the end of Saturday Night's Main Event, which I honestly wouldn't mind because those shows suck and only get in the way of the PLE schedule.
 
When my mother-in-law is completely ashamed of me and my kids are sad that I’m their father because I’m such a fucking loser on TV. I tell them don’t worry daddy was born to play a fucking loser on TV.

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Unfortunately for Matt Jackson, the 'all-around' aspect of being an entertaining wrestler is about the circumference of an ant hug.

Kurt Angle 'worked' because he had natural charisma, a metric fuckton of innate athletic ability (making the juxtaposition of a guy who could murder you but also being a huge dork a big reason why it 'worked'), wasn't afraid to show himself getting mad or looking foolish (as opposed to those dang production guys), and didn't feel compelled to tell totally true stories of his family being concerned about the on-air depiction of him in a TV show intended for entertainment.

I never got the hate that the Bucks got, but man, they really are one trick ponies and the joke gets old after the millionth time it is told, doesn't it?
 
I'm so used to pirating everything that I rarely bother with official feeds, even the ones I get free with my apartment
 
Did he do a rape? They had a whole story with him and his partner then it ended without him and now he’s just gone that’s the type of shit they do when they have to get rid of a guy like Odyssey Jones because of domestic abuse allegations

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Well Intentioned said:
Unfortunately for Matt Jackson, the 'all-around' aspect of being an entertaining wrestler is about the circumference of an ant hug.

Kurt Angle 'worked' because he had natural charisma, a metric fuckton of innate athletic ability (making the juxtaposition of a guy who could murder you but also being a huge dork a big reason why it 'worked'), wasn't afraid to show himself getting mad or looking foolish (as opposed to those dang production guys), and didn't feel compelled to tell totally true stories of his family being concerned about the on-air depiction of him in a TV show intended for entertainment.

I never got the hate that the Bucks got, but man, they really are one trick ponies and the joke gets old after the millionth time it is told, doesn't it?
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Hit it square in the head.
Vince himself suggested it to Kurt, in fact, because he knew he could pull it off.
 
Well Intentioned said:
Unfortunately for Matt Jackson, the 'all-around' aspect of being an entertaining wrestler is about the circumference of an ant hug.

Kurt Angle 'worked' because he had natural charisma, a metric fuckton of innate athletic ability (making the juxtaposition of a guy who could murder you but also being a huge dork a big reason why it 'worked'), wasn't afraid to show himself getting mad or looking foolish (as opposed to those dang production guys), and didn't feel compelled to tell totally true stories of his family being concerned about the on-air depiction of him in a TV show intended for entertainment.

I never got the hate that the Bucks got, but man, they really are one trick ponies and the joke gets old after the millionth time it is told, doesn't it?
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Truuuue, but how many 5 Star ratings does Kurt Angle have, hmmm? :smug:

In all seriousness, it's really irritating whenever they try to compare themselves to better acts and better wrestlers. Yes, Kurt Angle initially got over being a goofball, but that's because he was good at playing into that character. I keep saying it, but it bares repeating: almost NO ONE in AEW know how to play into their strengths. It's never about what works best, it's just what they like doing. Matt and Nick are the equivalent of a TikTok commentator that thinks that entertaining an audience of brainrotted zoomers means that they'd naturally slay doing standup at the Apollo Theater. They're not funny, their "Evil Boss" shtick never clicked because of how forced it was, and their matches are dull as fuck because they refuse to pace them in a way that can keep people's attention. Yet they still act as if they're fucking geniuses at character work and match formats.
 
Magic Sun Daddy said:
I can buy Speedball beating Shelton, but you have to show me how it would go down in a logical and narratively satisfying manner.
Speedball is a blackbelt, so he needs to be a badass despite not looking convincing in the roll.
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This isn't Cobra Kai.

Shelton was a legit wrestler, can probably take a punch, and he's still jacked. All he'd need to do is is wait for Speedball to try and kick him and it would be over.

Cornette has told stories about him tossing Brock around for fun all while living on a diet of McDonalds.

Bobby has the same accolades and has done MMA as well and is even bigger than Shelton.

Having them sell karate kicks from 5'7 185 pound they/them twink makes no logical sense.

You can't use Speedballs real life training as advantage and at the same time ignore Shelton's and Bobby's.

This why you should never mix big wrestlers with smaller ones.
 
this is like only mildly related to wrestling, but I don’t care cause there’s nowhere else I would talk about this, Bryan Alvarez somehow convinced people to put his conspiracy theory show on actual radio. He stopped doing it a few years ago and was even combative and annoyed when someone claimed he was into this stuff and I think post divorce dove head first back in so now he’s a guy with a fucking conspiracy show on actual radio talking about Bigfoot and shit. I’m not sure if divorce has been a positive or negative for ol Alvarez.

He’s got a special guest on the show right now to talk about humans and dinosaurs coexisting. Philip J. Senter who wrote a book called “the real story of Dinosaurs and Dragons”. A book looking at how the Bible’s take on dinosaurs and dragons was “ridiculous but interesting” that he wrote after a college kid he was teaching doubted evolution.
 
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RasterTatth said:
this is like only mildly related to wrestling, but I don’t care cause there’s nowhere else I would talk about this, Bryan Alvarez somehow convinced people to put his conspiracy theory show on actual radio. He stopped doing it a few years ago and was even combative and annoyed when someone claimed he was into this stuff and I think post divorce dove head first back in so now he’s a guy with a fucking conspiracy show on actual radio talking about Bigfoot and shit. I’m not sure if divorce has been a positive or negative for ol Alvarez.

He’s got a special guest on the show right now to talk about humans and dinosaurs coexisting. Philip J. Senter who wrote a book called “the real story of Dinosaurs and Dragons”. A book looking at how the Bible’s take on dinosaurs and dragons was ridiculous and interesting that he wrote after a college kid he was teaching doubted evolution.
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sometimes they pay for the time
 
Hijo de D. Woodchucks Jr. said:
Hit it square in the head.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ztbuQW-ePyIVince himself suggested it to Kurt, in fact, because he knew he could pull it off.
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The big key is Kurt's willingness to make himself the butt of the joke by looking foolish.

The cowboy hat is one of my favorite WWE bits, but there's one I can't remember where he says something along the lines of 'I love little kids' or something accidentally and gets flustered and mad.

Or the times where he gets angry with the audience and threw a tantrum.

I love Bret, but Kurt I think is probably the goat given he was so good and a natural in like all aspects of what makes a pro wrestler.
 
Well Intentioned said:
but there's one I can't remember where he says something along the lines of 'I love little kids' or something accidentally and gets flustered and mad.
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One of, if not the funniest promo ever. I posted it in the thread some time ago mentioning that it goes viral once or twice a year because of how good it is.
 
COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST said:
This industry has put on shows outside of the USA for ages. You (I don't mean you specifically) have to be AEW fan levels of retarded to be upset that Wrestlemania will be in the land of oil and stoning women.
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The only bad thing for me personally would be the fact that we’d be be watching a daytime WrestleMania but it’s honestly a mild preference more than any form of deal breaker so I would have the same reaction if WrestleMania went to a Western European country, mild dissapointment but they do two Saudi shows and at least 2 other international shows a year so I’d tolerate a WrestleMania being like that, for me the moralfags bitching about it would be more annoying than anything else
 
Blackstar said:
One of, if not the funniest promo ever. I posted it in the thread some time ago mentioning that it goes viral once or twice a year because of how good it is.
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It's such a fun little bit and Kurt does a great job of selling it. You have the super cocky smirk and how it looks like it's just gonna be a standard tough guy wrestler promo and then he just veers into a blunder seamlessly.

I have to wonder if Kurt was a Tito Ortiz fan and maybe took some of that as inspiration.
 
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