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Magic Sun Daddy said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Yk5q_2e6mmo
I can't find any video of this outside of youtube shorts, but I thought I'd share it regardless. Seeing Mark Henry gushing over Keiji Mutoh is like finding out that King Kong Bundy was the president of Jumbo Tsuruta's fan club.
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Can’t wait for redditors to seethe and tweet at Mark that Muta is a sexist, homophobic chud who’s said the gamer word openly.

Not like Henry cares.
Maker's Mark said:
The Wyatt Sicks just look so cringe.
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Blame Hunter.
I thought he was a fan of 70s - mid 90s metal. Never thought he was into the cringy 10s nu/industrial metal revival scene. Makes me think if he was 30 years younger he’d be Jonesing for Poppy and Ghostmane or Babymetal and XIII to make him a custom theme song.


Hurst said:
I've been waiting for Montez to go solo. Dude seems to have everything, I wonder why they haven't pulled the trigger yet.
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Is he a Triple H or Vince signing? Because if he’s a Vince guy, he’s probably held back the same reason Austin Theory was.

Jeff Dunham said:
Wyatt 6 getting boos bums me out. I know people are over the "2SPOOPY4ME" stuff, but man, there's some genuine talent and potential for something cool there.
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They need to dial it back, that’s all.

Kinda like how Rob Zombie started with the big overdramatic attire and stage for 1-3 years then toned it down where he looked more like a creepy redneck than a guy who genuinely thought he was a zombie.
Or how Kane went from a guy who could throw fireballs and had a deformed voice/face to a guy with a scarred face but normal voice, to a guy with no hair and weird teeth.

Wyatt Six looking more like Devil’s Rejects and less like House of a Thousand Corpses would work wonders on them.
 
Reading through the Reddit salt has been great. Even seeing Meltzer Kvetching has been great also. They’ll be back they always come back.
 
Jeff Dunham said:
Wyatt 6 getting boos bums me out. I know people are over the "2SPOOPY4ME" stuff, but man, there's some genuine talent and potential for something cool there.
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The problem with the Wyatt 6 is at it's core it is a Bray Wyatt angle and Bray Wyatt angle's always underdeliver and fizzle out.
Edit: I should say Wyatt angles always start hot with a lot of promise, underdeliver, and fizzle out.
 
Every wrestler ever has done shady. This era of fans would've died if they knew about all the debauchery of the 80s and 90s guys. When you're on the road 300+ days a year with nothing to occupy your time between gym appearances, work and hotels, you're going to fall into the seedier aspects of life on the road unless you have a Saint's level of self-control. There's no hanging out in Big Show's bus and playing Madden to pass the time, you're going to buy an ounce of dirt-weed, smoke it after a couple of painkillers and wash it down with whatever liquor is available. If you got some time, you'll shack up with a rat for the night to take your mind off of whatever aches and pains your body is dealing with from throwing yourself at the ground on a daily basis.

If we're going to judge every promotion, and every wrestler based on their sins, then we might as well not even watch. Most of the people that grand-stand on their "morals" like this often hand something much more sinister to hide. It's also telling that these people will "cancel" someone and prevent them from ever working again (Marty Scurll, Enzo) but give passes to people like CM Punk who is on film admitting to taking advantage of a woman financially and gatekeeping her out of the wrestling business by shooting on her during training sessions but because he simps for teacher's unions and leftist politics, they're okay with it.

I genuinely want these people out of the public discussion when it comes to wrestling. People fuss about the days of the IWC cheering for Vince Russo's booking but I would gladly welcome that back over quarantine zones like Squared Circle.
 
Would said:
Or how Kane went from a guy who could throw fireballs and had a deformed voice/face to a guy with a scarred face but normal voice, to a guy with no hair and weird teeth.
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Kane should have paid a visit to renowned dentist Dr. Issac Yankem to have those choppers fixed. HAR, HAR, HAR!!
 
Jeff Dunham said:
Every wrestler ever has done shady. This era of fans would've died if they knew about all the debauchery of the 80s and 90s guys. When you're on the road 300+ days a year with nothing to occupy your time between gym appearances, work and hotels, you're going to fall into the seedier aspects of life on the road unless you have a Saint's level of self-control. There's no hanging out in Big Show's bus and playing Madden to pass the time, you're going to buy an ounce of dirt-weed, smoke it after a couple of painkillers and wash it down with whatever liquor is available. If you got some time, you'll shack up with a rat for the night to take your mind off of whatever aches and pains your body is dealing with from throwing yourself at the ground on a daily basis.

If we're going to judge every promotion, and every wrestler based on their sins, then we might as well not even watch. Most of the people that grand-stand on their "morals" like this often hand something much more sinister to hide. It's also telling that these people will "cancel" someone and prevent them from ever working again (Marty Scurll, Enzo) but give passes to people like CM Punk who is on film admitting to taking advantage of a woman financially and gatekeeping her out of the wrestling business by shooting on her during training sessions but because he simps for teacher's unions and leftist politics, they're okay with it.

I genuinely want these people out of the public discussion when it comes to wrestling. People fuss about the days of the IWC cheering for Vince Russo's booking but I would gladly welcome that back over quarantine zones like Squared Circle.
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To add to this, I believe so many of today's wrestlers are 5'8 pretty-boy marks because carnie culture became problematic. If the business isn't gatekept by guys like Jerry Graham, Ray Stevens or Iron Sheik then it just turns into a gay corporate product where the wrestlers look smaller than guys at your local gym.
 
Would said:
Wyatt Six looking more like Devil’s Rejects and less like House of a Thousand Corpses would work wonders on them.
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That's a really good simile. I stand by my opinion that cult leader early Bray Wyatt was far more interesting than The Fiend or Uncle Howdy, mainly because his segments were grounded and digestible to the average viewer. All this shit with the Wyatt Six, but it always comes back to a very simple question: "what does this have to do with wrestling?"
 
Would said:
Can’t wait for redditors to seethe and tweet at Mark that Muta is a sexist, homophobic chud who’s said the gamer word openly
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The fact that Mark is presumably a Democrat who dislikes Hogan but is friends with Taker and Bubba who are openly MAGA says a lot about him in a good way, he most certainly hates the activist retards clinging onto WWE despite apparently hating on it, I love it when wrestlers especially retired vets tell these faggots to fuck off
Would said:
Or how Kane went from a guy who could throw fireballs and had a deformed voice/face to a guy with a scarred face but normal voice, to a guy with no hair and weird teeth.
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That’s not nessecarily a bad thing, Kane was at his peak from 97-99 but the rest of his career was still relatively entertaining like the psycho shit in 2003, Kanes bald look wasn’t the worst thing once he unmasked
 
Cpl. Long Dong Silver said:
Not to be mean but the Rotunda family is nothing up lower mid carders at best
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They were solid character wrestlers. The problem came when they weren't given direction. Bo can get over as a comedy act to some degree and Bray DESPERATELY needed someone competent to filter his ideas into something that would translate well to a casual audience.
Caddo Cobgang said:
That’s not nessecarily a bad thing, Kane was at his peak from 97-99 but the rest of his career was still relatively entertaining like the psycho shit in 2003, Kanes bald look wasn’t the worst thing once he unmasked
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Peak Kane to me was when he was using a electronic voice box to speak. That Kane could get over in any era you put him in. 2003 unmasked Kane was entertaining for what it was, but it felt very of its time. Between the Finger Eleven theme and his edgy monologues, he was basically a personification of horror film tropes at the time.
 
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Magic Sun Daddy said:
That's a really good simile. I stand by my opinion that cult leader early Bray Wyatt was far more interesting than The Fiend or Uncle Howdy, mainly because his segments were grounded and digestible to the average viewer. All this shit with the Wyatt Six, but it always comes back to a very simple question: "what does this have to do with wrestling?"
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It's a pain criticising the Wyatt Sicks, because you often get the "YOU'RE SHITTING ON A DEAD GUY'S VISION!" thrown at you for doing so.

Bray had some talent, but his best work was the earlier stuff with the Bray Wyatt character, and he had just as many misses as hits, if not more misses. Remember when he became a troon against Finn Balor? It was one of the so bad it's hilarious segments I've seen in wrestling, and I've seen early-to-mid 90's WCW.
 
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