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Sorry. I had really good news about my wife's health so I kind of celebrated with beer. Please bare with me.

Well Intentioned said:
Cornette was pretty much only ever regional
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The best thing I can think anyone can say about Cornette, regardless if you like him or not, no talent ever accused him of ripping them off.

That is how low the bar is for the industry but hey...he reached it.
Well Intentioned said:
From what I recall, Bischoff was never involved with creative in AWA. He handled advertising sales and was an on-air talent but didn't have any real say in production (although he did learn a ton and, depending on whom you listen to, sewered the guy who mentored him.)
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He was never even supposed to be a color/anouncer for AWA but the regular guy, Larry Nelson, got busted by DUI. With no one to do the show, and Eric as an intern bizarrely wearing a suit, Eric Gange grabbed him and he was given the opportunity. He did come up with the team challenge (aka wrote the last couple of weeks of AWA).

Bischoff is a boomer that fails forward.
 
JustStopDude said:
The best thing I can think anyone can say about Cornette, regardless if you like him or not, no talent ever accused him of ripping them off.

That is how low the bar is for the industry but hey...he reached it.
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The best thing I can say about James E. is that he did amazing work with Pritchard on developing the concept and story of Kane

He really was a very good heel manager back in the day, and he did a very good job keeping Smoky Mountain Wrestling going considering starting a new regional promotion in 1991 was per conventional wisdom about the dumbest way to spend your money in rasslin at the time. And the conventional wisdom was correct. And SMW was almost always running in the red. But he kept it going for four years still and helped a lot of guys get attention that springboarded them into WCW and WWF careers (including himself), many of them quite successful

That's about it
 
JustStopDude said:
He was never even supposed to be a color/anouncer for AWA but the regular guy, Larry Nelson, got busted by DUI. With no one to do the show, and Eric as an intern bizarrely wearing a suit,
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He wasn't an intern, lmao. He was a sales guy for AWA, trying to sell their show to stations.

He wasn't 'bizarrely' wearing a suit, he was dressed for the actual job he had.

Do you have a source on his involvement with the Team Challenge? Everything I've read indicates Bischoff was only ever a sales guy/on-air talent where he cut his teeth on TV production (which is what partly led to him climbing the ladder at WCW.)

A decent read on the Team Challenge series:

 
Tism the Return II said:
Ohnonono...

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According to Cagematch users, Tokyo Joshi Pro has produced four of the top ten best professional wrestling events so far in 2025, including spots 1 and 2.

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I am about as big of a simp for TJPW as one can possibly be, and even I admit that this is absolutely ludicrous and demonstrates that Cagematch cannot be taken seriously in any way, shape, or form.

Tony is unironically citing a platform that claims that this was a better show than his recent PPV that included three Dave Meltzer five star matches in a row:
ForgedBlades said:
TJPW also had a match on a bullet train.

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They're right about Ittenyon being the best show of the year though, it fucking RULED.
 
And this is why AEW will never get beyond the smark audience of ~600k.

I like the company for the most part but the guy running the show primarily worrying about what Cagematch and Meltzer thinks is a huge limiting factor for their popularity.
 
trent said:
And this is why AEW will never get beyond the smark audience of ~600k.

I like the company for the most part but the guy running the show primarily worrying about what Cagematch and Meltzer thinks is a huge limiting factor for their popularity.
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AEW unironically needs a current year Vince Russo kinda guy with a million ideas to grow the audience, some of them really good. But it would also need a Vince and Co. to tardwrangle him and filter out the 999,990 shitty to not really that good ideas. AEW has Tony and, what, the Young Bucks? :story:
 
I wonder if there were any people who followed John cena before he made it to ovw/the main roster? I wonder if any of those fans of the original prototype followed him through his entire career and are still watching now as cena just made one of the biggest heel turns of all time
 
Kaizer Ghidorah said:
I wonder if there were any people who followed John cena before he made it to ovw/the main roster? I wonder if any of those fans of the original prototype followed him through his entire career and are still watching now as cena just made one of the biggest heel turns of all time
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OVW really didnt get the same attention that NXT now has so I doubt it, interestingly enough Cornette was running it at the time Cena,Brock,Batista,and Orton were all there
draggs said:
AEW unironically needs a current year Vince Russo kinda guy with a million ideas to grow the audience, some of them really good. But it would also need a Vince and Co. to tardwrangle him and filter out the 999,990 shitty to not really that good ideas. AEW has Tony and, what, the Young Bucks? :story:
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the tragic part is, the shit smarks like is the complete opposite of what most normal people watch wrestling for, for every neckbeard overreacting to a Jey Uso botch there is 10 people gleefully YEETing in the stands when Jey makes his entrance, Tony has chosen his auidence as the former and will eternally stew in his own shit for as long as Tony has his sugar (literal) daddy
 
ForgedBlades said:
According to Cagematch users, Tokyo Joshi Pro has produced four of the top ten best professional wrestling events so far in 2025, including spots 1 and 2.

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I am about as big of a simp for TJPW as one can possibly be, and even I admit that this is absolutely ludicrous and demonstrates that Cagematch cannot be taken seriously in any way, shape, or form.

Tony is unironically citing a platform that claims that this was a better show than his recent PPV that included three Dave Meltzer five star matches in a row:


They're right about Ittenyon being the best show of the year though, it fucking RULED.
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Cagematch also claims that a stable called MAD BLANKEY is the third-greatest stable of all time.
 
The Jey-Austin match was apparently going to last 11 minutes originally but had to be cut because of the Cena segment going on for too long, which is just bullshit. They're on Netflix now, not TV.
 
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