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XYZpdq Jr. said:
BookDust was good too
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UnKillShredDur said:
I liked the Golden Truth... but to be fair, that was carried by Mr. Killings, as are most angles that involve him.
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That's what I was referring to (my fault for not naming specific examples.) Can anyone really name a compelling non-comedy storyline featuring Goldust prior to him and Cody feuding with The Authority? Even then, you can chalk most of the heat in that feud to Dusty being one of the few people who didn't allow Hunter and Stephanie to walk all over him in promos.
 
Chaos Theorist said:
Was Goldust ever World Champion material?
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Dustin Rhodes was never a person to lead a company. His early WCW stuff was passable, but he was also fortunate to be working with better than usual wrestlers, who knew how the business works. Don't get me wrong, as he aged, he really improved. But the reality here is, Cody put the hard yards in learning how to be more of a presence younger, and is reaping the rewards of it now. If Dustin did the acting courses, learned how to throw out body language better and understood the psychology a bit more, he would've been what Cody is today.
 
While we're talking about Goldust, am I alone in thinking that he had some of the best looking punches in wrestling?
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Shipping Steel said:
Dustin Rhodes was never a person to lead a company. His early WCW stuff was passable, but he was also fortunate to be working with better than usual wrestlers, who knew how the business works. Don't get me wrong, as he aged, he really improved. But the reality here is, Cody put the hard yards in learning how to be more of a presence younger, and is reaping the rewards of it now. If Dustin did the acting courses, learned how to throw out body language better and understood the psychology a bit more, he would've been what Cody is today.
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I don't think anyone is seriously considering him to be a Cody/Cena/Hart style babyface holding the belt and being the face of the company but he could have been used as a transitional champion
 
Bullet Club said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=G1uk3mS2L_U
Corny's not a fan of Thwagger.
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Cornette usually ha 80% good takes in wrestling, this is the 20% that is absolutely shit, I think Swagger had potential in WWE, they just pulled the trigger on him far too early
Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
To be fair, calling a son of a billionaire a communist pretty much confirms that Swagger either has an IQ of about 7 or he's taken way too many chair shots
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that's defintely retarded on Swagger's part, theres a lot of people who can't tell the difference between a commie and a retarded neoliberal, Tony for sure appears to be socially progressive outwardly, but is going to do whatever is necessary to ensure protection of his company and some of his talents, (like not axing Jericho)
 
Shipping Steel said:
Dustin Rhodes was never a person to lead a company. His early WCW stuff was passable, but he was also fortunate to be working with better than usual wrestlers, who knew how the business works.
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Tbf hes probably one of the only nepotism hires that honestly deserved a shot not necessarily the highest bar but he was miles ahead of a lot of other 2nd gen talents who got in because of who daddy was
 
I think the big thing that fucked Meltzer was the advent of the Internet.

The older generation (concidentally all guys who 'aged out' of WWE and/or have someone handling all the technical sides of things) didn't really have an option or way to get information out.

Younger wrestlers have the Internet to market themselves and aren't as reliant on Dave for anything, so there's no incentive to talk to him.
 
ForgedBlades said:
What I DO think happened is that when AEW got off to a hot start, he felt vindicated after people pushed back and mocked him for years for gushing over Kenny, the Bucks, Okada, and really the modern Japanese style as a whole. For my money, people first began turning on Dave en masse when he started to hand out those six and seven start ratings to NJPW and NXT Black & Gold matches, and I think that still sticks in his craw. But here was a promotion that was built on that style and it was hot. From his perspective, he proved everyone wrong.
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AEW has never really been a Japanese style promotion. It's more of a WCW style promotion with Japanese style talent.

The focus is more on the entrances than the matches themselves. They'll go to commercials during a match, reducing the match to a small inset of the screen but they never do that during entrances.

The booking is like WCW. Japanese promotions don't have the bloated rosters like AEW to book AEW style nonsense. Japan doesn't tend to do in ring promo segments. There might be something said after a match, usually the main event, but the comments are mostly kept to post-match backstage, like what real sports do.

I've been sampling a lot of different Japanese promotions lately to see if there's any worth getting in to (AJPW seems like the best option) and none of them remotely resemble AEW.
 
Swagger is one of those types that I wanted to get into but it never clicked. I'm not even talking about his negative charisma, I'm also talking about ring work. He's certainly capable, but his offense always looked lumbering and slow. He was like a lankier, less intimidating Kurt Angle to me.
 
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