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Well Intentioned said:
Could you elaborate on this? I didn't watch the match.
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Punk got a bit of "color" early in the match off a weird spot. I didn't think about it much, I just wanted to enjoy the match, whatever. But it's especially noticeable that, despite having such an obvious "gusher" off of hitting his face off the chainlink (I guess, the camera guys obviously did not catch him putting the fake blood on.) he doesn't keep bleeding, and when the ref wipes his face later on, he has no cuts on his face, and his blood didn't stain his skin, again, unlike Drew.

Normally I wouldn't be such a nitpicking asshole, but its glaringly obvious when compared to Drew, one guy was definitely willing to get fucked up to tell the story than the other.
 
Never Scored said:
Honestly, I think WWF in the Atttitude era and WCW from 96-98 had a lot more omph and edge to it with bigger stars and I prefer that to today, because it's the time I grew up. I also prefer the in ring product from the Ruthless Aggression era to today. However, I think from a purely storytelling perspective, the booking right now in WWE is probably the best is has ever been. I only watch the highlights on Youtube and the PPVs, but they are actually telling complete long-term stories with a beginning, middle and end, and the stories are getting over. That shit with Dom, Rhea and Liv at Summerslam is the most over something has gotten in WWE purely based on booking characters properly in fucking decades. This is the shit people want to see.

I know, I'm a 40-year-old man too. I also liked Stone Cold giving a man in a diaper a stunner into a porta potty better than the shit today, but that's not what the audience today wants.
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I remember back in about 2007 to 2014 when all anyone could talk about was booking and storylines. And how shit they were. They were right. All you'd hear from guys like the Spoony One and on wrestling forums was how nobody could finish a storyline properly and it was always "Cena wins lol." Along with the standard "Man, the attitude era was so much better." I agree with you that we've gotten way better storylines in the last couple of years than in the previous 20 years. In fact, we've got everything an 07 to 14 era smark could want. Stars that are actually over, good technical wresting, no more seedy and/or self indulgent McMahon inserts. But a lot of those same smarks now just want indy vanilla midgets to have constant matches with no storyline or even build up, no real technical wrestling beyond flippy spots, and self indulgent "dream matches" that only sound good on paper and only if you don't think about the practicalities. The average fan is happy but the smarks just constantly shift their demands. I'm glad Triple H isn't listening to them. Even AEW isn't satisfying them now.
 
I get why there's so much fondness for the Attitude Era -- it was the most popular wrestling ever was outside of maybe Hulkamania in the 80s (although I'd argue AE had more mainstream appeal) and it made the gay slap and tickle soap opera 'cool' -- but a lot of it was objectively horrible or nonsensical.

It's weird because a lot of stuff I do look at fondly was pre-Attitude WWF from about the Owen/Bret feud to the Screwjob, but also crap like WCW's Dangerous Alliance, or the Macho/Jake feud.

I know everyone is reaching peak Bloodline fatigue, but I think the buildup and blowoff at Wrestlemania was the perfect mix of Attitude Era WWE and modern WWE.

You had that edge with Rock dropping f-bombs, bloodying up Cody, etc. A million run-ins. High stakes, drama. But also backed up with excellent production and guys who could fucking go.

More of that shit and less fighting over 'friendship bracelets', please (although that sort of goofy shit is fine, too, just not in a supposed blood feud with 2 dudes who hate each other.)
Hijo de D. Woodchucks Jr. said:
Punk got a bit of "color" early in the match off a weird spot. I didn't think about it much, I just wanted to enjoy the match, whatever. But it's especially noticeable that, despite having such an obvious "gusher" off of hitting his face off the chainlink (I guess, the camera guys obviously did not catch him putting the fake blood on.) he doesn't keep bleeding, and when the ref wipes his face later on, he has no cuts on his face, and his blood didn't stain his skin, again, unlike Drew.

Normally I wouldn't be such a nitpicking asshole, but its glaringly obvious when compared to Drew, one guy was definitely willing to get fucked up to tell the story than the other.
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I am not really a fan of Punk, but he has bladed or gone hardway in the past.

I'm guessing they were trying to really protect his ass as much as possible given how fragile he is nowadays.

Him winning makes sense if you view him as someone who isn't going to be around longterm. Blow your load with a Wrestlemania match and that'll probably do it for Punk.

Also, any idea if he's going to Crown Jewel to suck a blood covered Saudi dick?
 
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Well Intentioned said:
I am not really a fan of Punk, but he has bladed or gone hardway in the past.

I'm guessing they were trying to really protect his ass as much as possible given how fragile he is nowadays.

Him winning makes sense if you view him as someone who isn't going to be around longterm. Blow your load with a Wrestlemania match and that'll probably do it for Punk.

Also, any idea if he's going to Crown Jewel to suck a blood covered Saudi dick?
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Well, he told WWE in the past that they should put money where their mouth is when talking about Saudi blood money.

Let's see if he's CM Hypocrite or not.
 
Nicholas II of Russia said:
Well, he told WWE in the past that they should put money where their mouth is when talking about Saudi blood money.

Let's see if he's CM Hypocrite or not.
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I was going to say I think Sami Zayn has refrained from going to Saudi Arabia but that seems to have changed.

My guess? He makes a 'donation' to some charity or some bullshit while going to the PPV.
 
THE STRESS said:
I'm rooting for Drew! slow walkup. Drew is telling him "I TWEETED #ALLLIVESMATTER" AND THEY FIGHT
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This genuinely had me laughing out loud thank you lmaooooo
BiggestKai said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ELcJaJy7fjYRelevant as always.
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this can’t be real holy fuck I love how bad this is
Well Intentioned said:
I am not really a fan of Punk, but he has bladed or gone hardway in the past.
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I'm a Drew simp and a CM Punk hater but yeah, I'll give credit where credit is due. He just doesn't have the stuff for it anymore, and who can really blame him. It looks awful to endure.

The 'blood' that dried on his arm tape during Bad Blood didn't dry like actual blood either-- and if that blood WAS real it looked watery as fuck and he needs to be treated for anemia asap.

IS the McIntyre staple head legit? I was surprised they stapled over the hair so I wasn't fully convinced yet... If it's true, I'll actually hate Cuck Punk then.

Also LOL, the Crown Jewel poster may have been leaked and spoiled tonight's RAW
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Thank fucking God if true.
 
Nia Jax is terrible. She's fat but not strong, can't talk for shit and can't even move well for a fat person. Only on the roster and champion because she's Rock's cousin

As much as I hate Owens, he's at least agile for a fatty. Vader and Earthquake were fat but strong as shit. She can't do anything
 
Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
Nia Jax is terrible. She's fat but not strong, can't talk for shit and can't even move well for a fat person. Only on the roster and champion because she's Rock's cousin

As much as I hate Owens, he's at least agile for a fatty. Vader and Earthquake were fat but strong as shit. She can't do anything
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She has always been very good at injuring more talented women, so you can't honestly say she can't do ANYTHING.
 
Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
Nia Jax is terrible. She's fat but not strong, can't talk for shit and can't even move well for a fat person. Only on the roster and champion because she's Rock's cousin

As much as I hate Owens, he's at least agile for a fatty. Vader and Earthquake were fat but strong as shit. She can't do anything
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The fatter white woman on Smackdown whose name I can't remember (I think she's Chelsea Green's minion) is way more talented than she is. If they want fat talent, they need to use her.
She is agile af.

edit: Holy shit didn't even know Nia was The Rock's cousin. Now I'm genuinely pissed.
 
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Daddy's Little Kitten said:
Piper?
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yes that's the one!
Not that she's any where near one of my favorites, but when run into one of her matches, she's throwing herself and doing spins. It's pretty impressive for her size.
However I get so uncomfortable watching jiggly bodies so it's always accidental when I watch the super chubs. Male or female.
That's why I had to retire from watching NWA cuz that's all they got
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The Blue Meanie jiggled so hard I felt woozy. Muh cardiovascular system. 🤢
 
Most people stopped watching AEW when CM Punk was fired. I stopped watching AEW when CM Punk debuted. I don't know how anybody could take that guy seriously after his shambolic performance in UFC.
 
EscapeVorkuta said:
Most people stopped watching AEW when CM Punk was fired. I stopped watching AEW when CM Punk debuted. I don't know how anybody could take that guy seriously after his shambolic performance in UFC.
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Well, he did make Jungle Boy look like a submissive bitch in the footage. So at least there's that going for him.

Nobody takes Jungle Boy seriously after that, no matter how much AEW tries to make him look good.
 
Well Intentioned said:
less fighting over 'friendship bracelets', please (although that sort of goofy shit is fine, too, just not in a supposed blood feud with 2 dudes who hate each other.)
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As goofy as it was on the surface, the bracelet was a key component in the later portion of the feud. Drew shoving the broken beads into Punk's mouth only to have the same done to him was a great storytelling device. Silly and goofy? If you don't go to the deeper meaning, yes. But if you go to the deeper meaning behind that bracelet (sentimentality from the bond a man and his wife share as partners), what it represents when it is no longer on your wrist (akin to kidnapping the one you love the most and hold dear), and the lengths a person will go to ensure the return of that bracelet (protecting what you love, even if it means you have to go through hell and the most tortuous trials). In that sense, it fits the blood feud themes perfectly.
 
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