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Heckler1 said:
I was at Collision yesterday. Fairly small venue but the crowd was into the show. My biggest take away was that the crowd hated Hook, but Rush was very over for some reason.
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I feel bad for Hook because you can tell he just hasn't got "it". He isn't terrible but his matches are all very rehearsed and he is an utter charisma vacuum.

He peaked maybe a year ago and now the crowd just don't want to see him any more.

Rush is over because he is a super talented cool heel.
 
When Hook didn't talk and was mainly just doing suplexes, it was good.

And the best game is Wrestling Empire.

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if you are a fat wrestler you better be a badass or you just are a fat wrestler. samoa joe? badass, vader? badass, kingston and owens? get those faggots out of my tv
 
Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
I don't mind fat wrestlers as long as they look intimidating. Like Vader was definitely fat, but he had massive arms and was pretty tall. Same with Typhoon and Earthquake, they were fat but they were just intimidating looking. Owens is like 5'8, fat as hell and has skinny arms. He doesn't look like a bully, he looks like a bully victim
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I still don’t “get” Owens, but leaning towards he has similar appeal as Sami Zayn, and both of them are over somehow with crowds.
Kevin Owens is a self insert for all of the guys that are built like that/wish they were smaller to be built like that.
Nothing special but still fighting anyways kind of thing.
He looks like a neckbeard, so do a good portion of wrestling fans.

Sami Zayne is for the skinny no physique fans that want to self insert as the cheered on underdog in life, he’s nothing special either but he has kayfabe HEART and doesn’t give up.
(have no idea about Owens politics but they have to be better than Zayne’s whiny woke bullshit).
 
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Zayn is amusing one. Woke as fuck and than platforms Islam, which actively contradicts everything he apparently stands for. But this is also the same guy that on the indies worked as a Mexican Lucha racial stereotype and a White rapper who thought he was Black (so Daniel Garcia), so frankly I think the man just bullshits to fit the narrative of the current social climate. I assure you if he could get away with it, he'd have been dropping hard R's amongst the Usos a few years back.
 
Never Scored said:
Man WWF Warzone/Attitude are games everyone loved when they came out, but aged like milk. Zoomers are never gonna understand. Had may N64 on for a week straight doing career mode in Attitude because I didn't have any free pages on my one controller pak.
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My friends and I used to play Wrestlemania 2000 all the time. Was an amazing game for when it came out
 
Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
My friends and I used to play Wrestlemania 2000 all the time. Was an amazing game for when it came out
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Revenge, No Mercy, and to a lesser extent WM 2000 (only because it was No Mercy 1.5, not that that was a bad thing) were the only wrestling games anybody needed from the late 90's to the early 2000's. The first few Smackdown games were alright but those Aki games were just different gravy.
 
OJ Simpson said:
Revenge, No Mercy, and to a lesser extent WM 2000 (only because it was No Mercy 1.5, not that that was a bad thing) were the only wrestling games anybody needed from the late 90's to the early 2000's. The first few Smackdown games were alright but those Aki games were just different gravy.
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Yeah, if you can get past the graphics and sound, they're still fun to play. There's some good hacks/mods of them as well.
 
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So curious about this documentary.
At first I thought it would be astroturfed because The Rock and other biggies are in it, but if it makes Vince unhappy I’m intrigued about how deep they get into the lawsuit.

They’re not going to mention the wrestler named collection of dildos even though that’s the best part.
And tbh Vince McMahon fisting someone while screaming in his voice is nightmare fuel.
Reading that lawsuit in full was nauseating.
 
Yeet won so he can interact with Roman and Goaty at the pape.
He’ll be on the card defending it, probably against Breakker who will win it back.
Helmsley likes to do this sorta thing. Remember when Cody and Jey won the tag titles so Cody could have that staredown with Roman on Smackdown last fall? Yeah. Similar situation here I’m betting.
 
Caddo Cobgang said:
It's honestly fucking horrible how bad Smarks in general have become even with their own containment fed, they have felt far too emboldened to make demands ever since Vince caved in 2014 with the whole Daniel Bryan temper tantrum (and fucked the company up for the rest of the decade honestly), even with AEW existing they still watch WWE and bitch about every little thing they don't like, they have no understanding of what makes Wrestling entertaining in the first place, I browse normie sites sometimes and they seethe about how much popular WWE is now in comparison and they don't understand why people aren't watching AEW, I even saw one seething about how WWE was up in Black Viewership despite Swerve being AEW Champion at the time lmfao.
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Vince didn't cave; he had Bryan pin Batista not Orton then paid a crooked doctor to say Bryan can't wrestle again to make him forfeit the belt and then started the never ending Roman/Seth push that drove away the bull of the audience.

Also AEW stopped bei g a containment fed the second it became apparent that it was going to be an Elite hugbox and everyone that upstaged the Elite would be buried or run out of the company.

Kaizer Ghidorah said:
Apparently wwe is bringing back Saturday night's main event in a similar position it used to be back in the day as effectively a quarterly free "mini" ppv
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Unless they do major angles PLUS WM tier matches, it's going to flop worse than the abortion of a 00s run, where every show was randomly thrown together garbage on par with the end stage WCW Saturday Night Main Event.
 
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The absolute state of AEW

She talks like a chink version of Tommy Wisseau

"I aahlready beaaht her, I did not hit her"
 
So I didn't write down anything last night for Raw, but I've got a few thoughts. Episode was ok, but I wasn't really invested until maybe the 10 PM hour. Not every week can be kino, but this show felt a tad slow.

Uso winning the IC belt was a great match, but highlights the stupid decision to not have Gable win months ago. Gable should have been the one feuding with Breakker for the title as champion, not Breakker putting over whoever won that tournament. If you gave Gable a chance to run with the IC title, I think it would be the easiest way to strap a rocket to his ass and fire him into the stratosphere. Happy for Jey, but I'm not on board with the booking.

Dom in a shark cage? I'm here for it. I like that decision and it came as a surprise. Of course this is the usual stipulation of "banned from ringside" we've gotten with (almost) all Judgement Day matches recently, but at least there's a spin on this and it doesn't feel too much like lazy booking.

Strowman and Reed could be a good slobber knocker next week, but I'm already tired of it. Last week was so over the fucking top with the destruction of the generalized area. I'm not sure there's even much of a story here other than "two big dudes meet and don't like each other, so they're gonna just pulverize the ever living fuck out of eachother/everything in their path". It's obviously trying to put Bronson over. I'll watch out of curiosity, but I don't have my hopes up for some technical masterpiece.
 
Neighborhood Janny said:
Gable should have been the one feuding with Breakker for the title as champion, not Breakker putting over whoever won that tournament. If you gave Gable a chance to run with the IC title, I think it would be the easiest way to strap a rocket to his ass and fire him into the stratosphere.
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At this point the IC title isn't in the picture for Gable anymore, what I would really want to happen would be Sami getting fucked over somehow and Gable and Gunther reigniting their feud for Gable to skip the midcard title to win the goatse belt instead. It won't happen unfortunately as they're both heels and Gunther needs his 7000 day reigns, it would also bring in Howdy into the world title picture which I don't think they would want to do because the smarks would go crazy if the tribute act doesn't get the strap.
 
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