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That's not the Rock, that's just Dwayne Johnson.
The Rock would never utter words like 'toxic' or smile as much as Dwayne does. There is 0 nostalgia involved because the character is gone, and the person left behind is a PR mannequin.
 
Would said:
That's not the Rock, that's just Dwayne Johnson.
The Rock would never utter words like 'toxic' or smile as much as Dwayne does. There is 0 nostalgia involved because the character is gone, and the person left behind is a PR mannequin.
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Dwayne talking about freedom was a laugh considering he campaigned for Biden in 2020.
 
Chaos Theorist said:
What genuinely shithead things has Jericho done in the past before the Kylie Rae incident?
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There's probably a case to be made about him making people listen to Fozzy being some manner of assault.

But yeah tbh for a wrassler I don't recall a whole lot of drama around him
 
Reading plebbit seethe over "foreign heel" "I can't handle someone not shitting on the US" has been amusing today
 
Jurassic park said:
Saying the PROP used to give reasons for matches to happen should appear on TV is whiny drivel? Man you must really be butthurt with me. It's so outlandish wanting belts to be used in story lines instead of sitting at home with a guy riddled with cancer.
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You are literally only talking about Roman, while also making some weird mark blanket statement about hating long title reigns. It comes across as whiny. A title reign being long or short isn't the problem (look at Gunther, guy's been champ forever and still produces bangers, or how in Mexico title reign length means nothing), its the stories that are attached to the title, and projected onto it by fans. You just seem like an angry mark imo.

Your second point is actually kind of interesting. I think AEW didn't want to be TNA, but they have gone down the road of Hogan era TNA. Instead of finding a niche for themselves (Like TNA did with the 6 sided ring and focus on X division) Tony insisted on demanding to be seen as an equal competitor and tried to do so by being discount WWE with deathmatches, and catering to un-satisfiable smarks. Additionally, Tony either books things for too long ( and people get tired of it) or he fails to capitalize on sudden momentum until it's too late and makes a half hearted attempt to recapture the magic before finding a new toy to play with.
 
Soulless4510 said:
Well looks like old Nick Hausman is backtracking on the whole Chris Jericho shit.

Journalist can't stop lying challenge impossible
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My brother in Christ are you honestly expecting reporting ethics from pro wrestling journalists?
 
Chaos Theorist said:
What genuinely shithead things has Jericho done in the past before the Kylie Rae incident?
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What's really funny is Jericho had his own Brawl Out incident vs Goldberg. He got so salty over never being allowed to have a back and forward match with Goldberg at his peak (which would have killed Goldberg at the expense of Jericho) so thought it was a good idea to just randomly jump Goldberg from behind backstage years later.

Jericho actually has a really interesting laundry list of awful things he's done, but most of them are just him simply using his creative leverage to have another shitty talk show on RAW or a feud that outlasts it's welcome like against KO. Some of the standouts include desecrating the Brazil flag in Brazil, glamorizing Chris Benoit on his podcast, nearly blinding Naito in one of the laziest brawls of all time and the pillowgate spergout where he wanted Shotzi to never be employed again for having the audacity to mock him. I could probably think of more if I actually gave enough of a shit about Jericho to deep dive him but he's honestly been treading water for 20 years at this point.

I'll also mention that if I could go back in time and either prevent the Holocaust or the formation of Fozzy I'd choose Fozzy.
 
Like a lot of men and women wrestlers, Jericho fucked a lot of people, including when he was married, including when the other person was in a relationship

Being a sleazy whore doesn't make him a sexual harasser or some shit, not without proof

It'd be nice if he retired but not because of some plebbit faggitry
 
Heckler1 said:
in Mexico title reign length means nothing
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lucha isn't renowned for giving fucks about belts in general
Tom Nook's Gloryhole said:
desecrating the Brazil flag in Brazil
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too bad there's no better pics of it, that was great and I want to shop it to be the Earth Federation flag from Gundam but it's too low res to really modify for the subtle difference
 
IDanceonTrannyGraves said:
Roman vs. The Rock is the kind of hotshotting that Tony Khan would do.

I'm fucking tired of coconut nigger Roman and I'm tired of part timers coming in and doing one match.

Roman is about as talented as Nash (ie not at all and incredibly fucking lazy. I'm honestly surprised he hasn't torn his quads yet).

Rock is old and insufferable. It's not the attitude era and his schtick is tired.

Also, Seth is even more insufferable than the Rock, but I fucking do not want him to lose to Punk. That tranny loving cocksucker needs to go back to UFC to get his bell rung a few more times to have some sense knocked into him.
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At this point, Punk has to go over Seth to create a containment firewall to deal with the fact that Roman's never going to drop the belts and basically will pull a Shawn at this point and vacate the title rather than job the belts to anyone.

Punk is still insanely popular, would instantly give the Raw consolation title credibility Seth could never give it, and basically one of the few people who can pretty much go on live TV and say "Roman's not the real champion, I am!" and have fans believe it in terms of single handedly delegitimizing Roman and his titles as "not counting" and making the Raw title the real world title.

Seth will have to eat shit but it's his own damn fault for not moving to stop Roman while it was still possible.
 
Heckler1 said:
You are literally only talking about Roman, while also making some weird mark blanket statement about hating long title reigns.
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Please be quiet if you don't know what you're talking about.
There is no reason for a belt to stay on 1 person for a year. The belts are props to build up lesser talent and give them an excuse to fight draws. If you're a draw you don't need to be holding the belt for a year. Kenny Omega has always been a shitter and keeping the belt on him for a year is a mistake. Especially considering the belt serves 2 purposes. 1 is story telling and the other is for sick kids to meet the WWE/AEW champion/do media content. So keeping the belt on someone who is already supposed to be your top draw makes no sense. Once you're big enough not to need the belt to be a star you move it on to someone else so they can get more media attention outside of wrestling and build your stable of top guys in case any one gets hurt.MJF handed the belt to Joe this week because of an injury, so any story telling you built up over a year is gone because Joe went "fuck that belt" and then got the new one with no story being told because long title reigns don't create a set of top guys where losing one forces you to derail the story.
Heckler1 said:
Instead of finding a niche for themselves (Like TNA did with the 6 sided ring and focus on X division) Tony insisted on demanding to be seen as an equal competitor and tried to do so by being discount WWE with deathmatches, and catering to un-satisfiable smarks.
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Try watching TNA's X division and see what AEW evolved out of. WCW's mid card lead to TNA X division which lead to AEW.
 
Jurassic park said:
There is no reason for a belt to stay on 1 person for a year. The belts are props to build up lesser talent and give them an excuse to fight draws.
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I think there's room for a belt being on a person longer than a year if there's a point, but yeah, belts should be more for the guys who need them and the ones who interact with the human world.
Like when AEW took the tag belts off The Acclaimed that was totally reasonable, The Acclaimed is more over than any tag belts, or conversely Billy Pumpkinsmash putting his belt on Tyrus. I might have come up with a belt more _for_ Tyrus to wear on late night tv than put the company's main belt, but still having him with THE NWA BELT THAT I DEFEND ON NWA BECAUSE NWA EXISTS was a good plan
 
XYZpdq Jr. said:
I think there's room for a belt being on a person longer than a year if there's a point, but yeah, belts should be more for the guys who need them and the ones who interact with the human world.
Like when AEW took the tag belts off The Acclaimed that was totally reasonable, The Acclaimed is more over than any tag belts, or conversely Billy Pumpkinsmash putting his belt on Tyrus. I might have come up with a belt more _for_ Tyrus to wear on late night tv than put the company's main belt, but still having him with THE NWA BELT THAT I DEFEND ON NWA BECAUSE NWA EXISTS was a good plan
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They can but it should be a rarity because it increases the risk of ruining the story via injury and who needs a belt for a year to get over? You can make a safer and stronger story when you have Austin and Rock trading the belt while Undertaker, Mankind and Triple H compete for the third slot in the triple threat matches. Then you have 5 stars built up all contending and maybe briefly touching the belt. The prop is lifting them all up and lets you tell screw job story lines and make/break alliances to keep things fresh. Austin and Rock don't need the belt in any way, but the other 3 getting it becomes a big deal. Did everyone forget WCW telling people Foley was winning the belt tanked their viewership? And he was the upper midcard punching bag added to main events when they wanted a gore fest.
 
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