General Wrestling Discussion

CognitiveDeficiency said:
Don't sign him, bring him in on a by appearance deal just to pop the ratings and work Tony. Hell give Punk a live mic with the very clear understanding that if he shoots on the WWE he will never ever get another chance. Punk on Smackdown coming out to take a victory lap on Tony would have him steamin, bubblin, maldin, seethin, and copin.
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>Triple H shows up during Survivor Series
>Does the "u_c_in-deez-bizniz.mp4" promo
>Announces the return of a HIGHLY CONTROVERSIAL SUPERSTAR
>He has a history of bad relationships with management
>He had a very hot rivalry with Undertaker
>And now, He's Back Home
>OMG
>COULD IT BE
>IT IS

CognitiveDeficiency said:
Honestly comparing him to Dixie Carter feels kind of disrespectful to Dixie. Yeah she was a money mark that got worked by the people she hired, but at least she managed to maintain a little bit of her dignity and didn't expose herself this badly.
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I never thought I'd put over fucking Dixie, but yeah, she showed she was more of a fan of wrestling when she said "fuck it" and decided to play an actual villain character on tv. No one liked her already, might as well put the heat to use. Also taking table bumps when she wasn't a wrestler at all is fucking badass.
Heckler1 said:
Vladamir Kozlov has returned to wrasslin. Showed up on Impact. I remember the W tried to build up to some kind of big match with him years ago, only for him to fall prey to the almighty pedigree and turned into a comedy act.
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Ngl, I popped. I'm happy he's using the "John Wick mobster" look.
 
Heckler1 said:
Vladamir Kozlov has returned to wrasslin. Showed up on Impact. I remember the W tried to build up to some kind of big match with him years ago, only for him to fall prey to the almighty pedigree and turned into a comedy act.
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dude just didn't have it at the time tbh
 
Heckler1 said:
Vladamir Kozlov has returned to wrasslin. Showed up on Impact. I remember the W tried to build up to some kind of big match with him years ago, only for him to fall prey to the almighty pedigree and turned into a comedy act.
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YA BRING YA STUPID BOWL!

Yeah I remember Kozlov's big push and eventual demotion. I think it had more to do with him not connecting with the fans, and his matches against Triple H were also pretty poor. As a result, he drew legit go-away heat and then he was nowhere near the level of menace he had in those few months.

Though I will say his comedy stuff with Santino Marella was legit entertaining, if only because of the absurdity of seeing this huge scowling Russian that could kick anybody's ass having to play straight-man to Santino's antics.
 
barbieQ said:
I'm gonna be real guys, this latest Tony meltdown has made me change my mind on WWE rehiring Phil. I want them to sign him now just to see Tony freak out on twitter. Punk was his favorite toy, imagine the betrayal he'd feel.
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If Hunter and Shawn want to push Tony over the edge and not have to resign Phil it would only take 5 words "cm punk hall of fame"

Get him on camera for a one off pipe bomb and i legit think tony would go face first into a tony Montana sized pile of cocaine and end up in a straight jacket.
 
Pillman Jr. is called Lexis King now which sounds more like a female pornstar rather than a wrestler.

He's also dressing like a jobber from the 80s.
 
Billy Stinkwater said:
If Hunter and Shawn want to push Tony over the edge and not have to resign Phil it would only take 5 words "cm punk hall of fame"

Get him on camera for a one off pipe bomb and i legit think tony would go face first into a tony Montana sized pile of cocaine and end up in a straight jacket.
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Make him a pre-order bonus for 2k24 with his Ecw version, mitb 2011 & "I'm old. I'm tired & I work with children" and use the all out 2022 attire and have him promote the game.
 
WhimsicalTrolli said:
Make him a pre-order bonus for 2k24 with his Ecw version, mitb 2011 & "I'm old. I'm tired & I work with children" and use the all out 2022 attire and have him promote the game.
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Have it programmed where he gets a stat increase in backstage brawls.
 
CyrusHowler said:
LA Knight losing to Roman will not kill his push or his overness.
Did it kill Cody’s?
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Jobbing to Roman has killed everyone's push. Even Cody's permanently tainted, especially since they couldn't just force Brock to lose three in a row in increasingly humiliating fashion to try nad rebuild Cody as a top guy along with Cody just floating along doing nothing, because he sees Seth's participation trophy as the insult that it is.

Only way LA Knight's walking out of that match intact is if they have Roman get himself disqualified becasue his normal cheating method (henchmen like Solo) fail to take Knight down and Roman has to engage in such blatant cheating to take down Knight that he gets disqualified at long last and starts ducking Knight/having his failure to beat Knight rubbed into Roman's face by everyone.
 
MirrorNoir said:
Jobbing to Roman has killed everyone's push. Even Cody's permanently tainted, especially since they couldn't just force Brock to lose three in a row in increasingly humiliating fashion to try nad rebuild Cody as a top guy along with Cody just floating along doing nothing, because he sees Seth's participation trophy as the insult that it is.

Only way LA Knight's walking out of that match intact is if they have Roman get himself disqualified becasue his normal cheating method (henchmen like Solo) fail to take Knight down and Roman has to engage in such blatant cheating to take down Knight that he gets disqualified at long last and starts ducking Knight/having his failure to beat Knight rubbed into Roman's face by everyone.
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The struggles of Pillman Jr make me wonder why they just don't give him a masked wrestler gimmick. Let him get over that way THEN once he's over, slow build an angle where he unmasks and make a big deal about how no one took him seriously as a legacy brat and he had to create his own legacy as a masked man to be taken seriously.

Hell give him the Sin Cara gimmick since WWE owns it.
 
Finally caught up on the thread after one hell of a week. Can't believe I missed out on the Tony Khan meltdown in real time but I guess that's what I get for not dedicating every second of my life to wrestling like I could back in the day :(

NXT was fantastic as usual and I echo the statements about Shawn Michaels probably being the best booker around at this moment in time. Granted, this is something that tends to happen all the time in wrestling where some guy will come in with his own bright ideas and inject the show with a shitload of passion and creativity before eventually burning out and getting stale but honestly it's significantly better than the bulk of black and gold NXT, which tbh only really burned bright during Sami Zayn's run which happened to coincide with the women's division dropping multiple generational talents at once as well as having a hot tag division. Shawn on the other hand has been given a bunch of unpolished NXT rookies that have really stepped up, in contrast to the revolving door of indie shitters who stunk up the place in boring techinical matches with diminishing gains.

In fact it's probably only Vince McMahon who ever broke the 4 year curse of being a booker, but that's because he's a complete and utter lunatic and knew how to drop off when wrestling was cold and ramp it up when wrestling was hot again. Bischoff couldn't do it, Cornette couldn't do it, the Lucha Underground guys couldn't do it, Triple H couldn't do it, Gedo has been treading water for like 4+ years now since he fucked up Naito's WK match, Heyman technically did it by being handed a shitload of favours and even then, a LOT of what Paul Heyman was doing at the time was masked by the small but fiery crowds that made even a boring as fuck tag team match between four crackheads seem bigger than it was. History has NOT been kind to ECW in the way it has to a lot of classic WCW and WWF.

I do have to give special credit to Khan for directly sabotaging AEW's creativity by bloating the roster and adding another show and then refusing to split the roster between shows (talking about Rampage here, not Collision) which not only screwed with his attention span but kickstarted the adhd booking that has happened ever since and made sure that almost no Dynamite has felt like a must see show for years. The passion is still there but he's just overloaded with work that he, himself gave to do in order to try and be competitive with the WWE. I genuinely think he could have done the full 4 year golden booking period if he only ever had to deal with Dynamite. The start of AEW was unpolished but fun and quickly ironed out a decent amount of the teething problems within a few months.

Speaking of Khan though, he was especially pathetic this week. You just knew when he had the pre-ratings meltdown he'd obviously had insider information regarding the ratings and that's why he was sperging out so badly. That mother in hospital tweet that also featured an attack on the WWE was Grade A schizoposting and would have been sad to see if it wasn't for the beating the war drums tweets just a few days earlier.

God I love wrestling.



As a side note: anyone who blocks someone on KF for anything bar serious harassment or spamming CP or gore is a complete and utter faggot. I'm serious. This thread is probably one of the most entertaining places to discuss wrestling in semi-real time and you retards make it special. I'll never fail to chuckle at a negrating from AF or a MirrorNoir schizorant, or some niche CMLL news about some tardfight. There's no reddit injokes, there's barely any flamebaiting, and even if there is a scuffle it's quickly forgotten about because there's so much fucking wrestling per week to move on to.

EDIT: that's too nice. kill yourselves
 
If AEW still had Pillman Jr. around they could really go all in on the Christian Cage faction by throwing him in with Jungle Boy. Christian could film a few Andrew Tate style vignettes to lean into the surrogate father figure shtick. We know from the antisemite Juice storyline that Tony likes to be real topical.
 
MirrorNoir said:
The struggles of Pillman Jr make me wonder why they just don't give him a masked wrestler gimmick. Let him get over that way THEN once he's over, slow build an angle where he unmasks and make a big deal about how no one took him seriously as a legacy brat and he had to create his own legacy as a masked man to be taken seriously.

Hell give him the Sin Cara gimmick since WWE owns it.
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I think the WWE fans are too accustomed to smaller masked wrestlers to be luchadors like Rey for that to work. It's a good idea, just not the place to do it unless you have announcers talk about masked technical and all around wrestlers. Maybe call him something similar to the Avenger given his fathers history with the Harts.
 
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