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That's luchablog's latest entry. There was some unexpectedly based stuff from Zeuxis and in an article regarding international women's day.
Zeuxis talked after the show, mostly what you’d expect: happy to have lived up to her promise of having the best match on the show, happy to get booed because she knows she’s the better wrestler (than Persephone), and happy that Dark Silueta also won Copa Irma Gonzalez. Her last question was if she thought her win was a blow for the newer generation she’s complained about in recent months. Zeuxis agreed that it was and took it a step forward – she wants everyone to give their best; the women of CMLL can no longer have bad matches. “There were very bad matches in ‘AEW versus CMLL’, and it is embarrassing to say it.” Zeuxis talked about how much the women had to fight to get their spot on CMLL and wanted her generation to prove they were the best generation.
The women’s matches on the 12/13 AEW vs CMLL show were generally bad – the opener with Zeuxis not as much as the other two [Deonna vs La Catalina, Red Velvet and Viva Van vs Jarochita and Lluvia]. It’s refreshing to hear someone in CMLL acknowledge it. There’s a strong chance CMLL will (nearly) repeat one of those 12/13 women’s matches in a couple of weeks: Jarochita & Lluvia against Lady Frost & Taya Valkyrie is the most likely H2L tag title match after the results of this show. Zeuxis’ statement seemed like a direct message to her rivals about a need to come through.
I just want to add, I was surprised with that article from El Pais. It would be easy to just turn that into a "machismo bad" article, and they'd be mostly right to do it. Acknowledging that women don't help each other much in Mexico is great. It explains why the Mexican independent scene is practically a desert when it comes to female talents. There are barely any independent luchadoras that I'd call professional these days (Keyra, Hija de Gatubela who was formerly Sexy Star II, Princesa Azul on a good day, etc.)El Pais has one of the better women’s wrestling pieces I’ve read lately. The usual arc of these “they wouldn’t let women wrestle in Mexico, then they would but were very sexist, and now we’ve made some real progress” to paint a rosy picture. This piece has some of that, but it also acknowledges that the struggle isn’t just against the outside world but against each other. Stephanie Vaquer’s comments got (poorly) aggregated over the weekend, with many people critical of Vaquer for saying CMLL people treated her harshly in her first year. In this article, legendary luchadora Lola Gonzalez talks about being treated terribly by the established women at the time – and then the following paragraph is Lady Apache talking about how Lola Gonzalez (and other stars of that time) tried her terribly when she was breaking into wrestling. The author notes that many of the luchadoras talked to had similar stories and refers to it as a hazing. To me, it’s a cycle of disrespect, women getting treated horribly on the way in, who can’t stop themselves from doing the same to those who follow them. Many luchadoras note throughout the article how little they get along. Hera says she only trusts her family and Persephone. Skadi says she only trusts Marcela and Kira. Those are things I’d be more concerned with my wrestlers saying out loud than whatever people no longer in CMLL say if I was running CMLL.
The El Pais article also mentions both Lola Gonzalez and Lady Apache suffering physical abuse from their spouses. Fishman hitting Lola Gonzalez has come up in other profiles of her and is well known, though it tends to be politely ignored in recollections of Fishman. I don’t recall hearing the Electroshock/Lady Apache story before; she says he was upset she was more over than him and took it out on her.