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crunchy bits are the best said:
Considering that AEW lives on drama, it's not surprising anymore to see their talent trying to shit on other wrestling companies. Look at what happened to TNA on their constant shitting of WWE, they got nowhere.
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Remember when AEW said they weren't going to become TNA? They didn't. They became worse than TNA. Dixie was a complete idiot trust fund baby who didn't know jack shit about wrestling, but she never treated a 5'6" man who puts his hands in his pockets as his personal in-ring avatar, and never jobbed out one of the most popular main event guys to put the belt on someone like that. And she actually took a bump.
 
A.P. Hill said:
Remember when AEW said they weren't going to become TNA? They didn't. They became worse than TNA. Dixie was a complete idiot trust fund baby who didn't know jack shit about wrestling, but she never treated a 5'6" man who puts his hands in his pockets as his personal in-ring avatar, and never jobbed out one of the most popular main event guys to put the belt on someone like that. And she actually took a bump.
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DADDY DADDY THEY ARE COMPARING ME TO DIXIE AGAIN DADDY. DIDN'T THEY SEE THE BUMP I TOOK? DADDY YOU SAID IF I WORE THE NECKBRACE TO THE NFL THING EVERYONE WOULD KNOW ABOUT IT SO I COULD TAKE IT OFF. DADDY I NEED MORE JOURNALISTS. BUY ME A NEW JOURNALIST SO THAT THEY WILL KNOW I TOOK A REAL BUMP LIKE VINCE DADDY. DO IT RIGHT NOW OR I WILL HOLD MY BREATH UNTIL I DIE.
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Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
Kliq didn't bury Shane Douglas, Shane buried himself by sucking
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His swerve in ECW with the belt throwing was the only cool thing he has ever done. However, a few other names would have done it better. It was a great angle that got him over more than him getting it over or helping it if you know what I mean.

He talked to much, and he kept others down in ECW once he got to the top spot. Which he only got by better guys leaving for WWF or WCW, being one of the top guys by default (fucking Sandman or Sabu where never going to be top guys). He is like the Bret moaner but on crack.

God I fucking hated Shane.
 
Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
HBK definitely fucked over Vader
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cypocryphy said:
Well, Vader was stiff and his wrestling gear smelled really bad it seems. I liked Sid in his spot in '96 better anyway, but that's just me.
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Vader could have gotten over if he maintained his weight but just like Yokozuna and Ahmed he let himself go. And he should have been mature in handling things like with what he did in Kuwait. Or even his fight with Orndorff.
 
Magic Sun Daddy said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=NWTKnZ2IAZA
Just watched the New Day breakup angle. I really hope something good comes of it, because the segment on its own just might be one of the best done segments in WWE history. Big E especially killed it. The moment where Woods calls him a burden and you can hear the mic falling from Big E's hands was perfect. Their performances hand the audience so engaged, they didn't even need to have the standard "attack the babyface partner for heat" moment usually seen when stables splinter apart. Kofi and Woods got that same level of heat just by shaking hands at the end.
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Just goes to show that less is, indeed, more. The moment Kofi put his hand on Big E's chest to hold him back said more and showed more emotion than words could in that moment. The facial expressions from Kofi and Xavier were great throughout and contrasted so well with the shock and dismay from Big E. And the crowd! Just fucking eating out of the palm of their hands and hanging on every word. Promos and segments have gotten such a huge upgrade since Vince left and the crowds are just as much a part of them. Shit like this is what puts talent over both in the arena and on TV. This is definitely segment of the year for me.

cypocryphy said:
Back to the topic of the Kliq, here's another anti-Smark hot take of mine. I think all the shit about the Kliq holding people down is really overblown. Razor, Shawn, and Diesel got over with the audience on their own. It's not like Sparkplug Holly, Skip, and Adam Bomb were huge threats to them. Those guys weren't really going anywhere, Kliq or no Kliq.
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I think this has become the most common sense take in recent years regarding the Kliq. For anyone to think that this group of five guys was holding up the main event scene at a time when the fed was at a low point is ludicrous, especially when over half of them got over on their own. I would argue that they found favor in the eyes of McMahon for being leagues above the majority of the talent and thus got more favorable booking. But to imply that these dudes had that much control over who got into the main event space and when? Maybe on Planet Retard, but not in the McMahon WWF. There's no way McMahon would have allowed talent to run the gamut in any way.

trent said:
Fuck me, those Collision and Rampage numbers. Yikes.

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>This episode vs. last week (249,000): -49%
>This episode vs. trailing four weeks (224,000): -44%
>Current 2024-Q4 P2+ average (224,000) vs. 2023-Q4 (335,000): -33%
>Current Nov 2024 P2+ average (211,000) vs. Nov 2023 (300,000): -30%

I'd laugh, but that would be a waste of oxygen that some poor tree made for me.
 
Takada Monster Army said:
Rene Dupree got absolutely trashed and did a livestream with Teddy Hart
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Damn, that stream is close to being lost media. One copy got taken down. Here's another one.
Dude.
Dupree at around 12 minutes,

Now, he said he was on benzos and had mixed them with alcohol. Well, later in the video, he looks like he's eating...something, it's not cocaine, but I guess it's the pills he shouldn't have mixed. Also, fuck, Teddy is still the same. Just babbles on and on, I kept waiting for him to give me a good moment to stop recording.
At around 22, Dupree does sound like he's WASTED. It's even more obvious at 40 minutes, when Dupree reads a comment. MAN...


tl;dr - Dupree definitely needs some help. Damn.
 
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Lucas Silva #4903141 said:
Damn, that stream is close to being lost media. One copy got taken down. Here's another one.
Dude.
Dupree at around 12 minutes,
Bandicam 2024-12-04 20-10-02-673-DONE.mp4
Now, he said he was on benzos and had mixed them with alcohol. Well, later in the video, he looks like he's eating...something, it's not cocaine, but I guess it's the pills he shouldn't have mixed. Also, fuck, Teddy is still the same. Just babbles on and on, I kept waiting for him to give me a good moment to stop recording.
At around 22, Dupree does sound like he's WASTED. It's even more obvious at 40 minutes, when Dupree reads a comment. MAN...
Bandicam 2024-12-04 20-21-13-081-DONE.mp4

tl;dr - Dupree definitely needs some help. Damn.
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Dupree fucked himself over bad. Noah locked him in as their top gaijin before corona. Then he took the first chance to go back to Canada and ruined everything. Granted there was a period where travel restrictions were in place, but Noah was still feeding him a paycheque to just sit at home.

During this period Noah just asked the two gaijin talent they had, Dupree and El Hijo de Doctor Wagner Jr., to send them in video of any matches they worked so that the footage could be used to keep the two of them fresh in the minds of the Noah audience. Dr. Wagner III sent in some amazing matches he worked as part of a tag team with his father. Like a straight up entire storyline about his father trying to regain his pride as a lucha after having laid down and losing his mask. You don't even have to speak a word of Spanish to understand that these matches had real stakes and the Wagner III was working to redeem his father in the eyes of the fans. Rene sent in one video of himself visibly intoxicated stumbling around a senior center rec room with that fat fuck Hannibal.

When the restrictions lifted Dupree never came back, but Wagner III got a rocket strapped to his ass and moved into upper midcard territory right at the peak of the hottest Noah has been since Misawa died. Not only that, Noah trusted Wagner enough to let him pick out guys from Mexico to go work for Noah and collect a paycheck. Rene could have set himself up as the guy representing Noah to the western audience as well as establishing himself as a go between guy scouting for Japan once he retired. But instead he would rather have been a fucked up alcoholic pillhead.
Just fucking embarrassing.
 
Neighborhood Janny said:
Just goes to show that less is, indeed, more. The moment Kofi put his hand on Big E's chest to hold him back said more and showed more emotion than words could in that moment. The facial expressions from Kofi and Xavier were great throughout and contrasted so well with the shock and dismay from Big E. And the crowd! Just fucking eating out of the palm of their hands and hanging on every word. Promos and segments have gotten such a huge upgrade since Vince left and the crowds are just as much a part of them. Shit like this is what puts talent over both in the arena and on TV. This is definitely segment of the year for me.
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It makes watching AEW all the more infuriating to me, because these type of segments used to be a strong point for them. Cody crying as he asks for his older brother, MJF laying into William Regal before getting dressed down himself, Dax Harwood's promo about fighting as hard as his 8 year old daughter when she had heart disease, all still resonate with me. Now it's all esoteric insider bullshit and meta commentary no one can even pretend to care about.
 
With Shane Douglass it's his fault should have agreed with hbk about burying that Canadian tag team in Canada. Is it fucked up yes. But this is wrestling poloitc ur way to the spot and from. What I heard he was an asshole in ecw too and a massive coke head
 
XYZpdq Jr. said:
she hustled the fuck out of Billy Pumpkin
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To be fair, by the time Corgan wanted in on TNA, Dixie had already cut her teeth with guys like Bischoff and Hogan walking all over her, so she probably thought "this egghead looking motherfucker wants to come in an fuck with shit too." In hindsight, they're probably better off, seeing what he's done with the shattered remains of the NWA.

If the last few years of wrestling have thought me anything, sometimes it's better to be a complete normie than a mark. Sure, there's a lot of schlock in TNA/Impact during her tenure, but there's a lot of very good stuff in there too.
 
So it looks like higher-ups at AEW encouraged Ryan Nemeth of all people to antagonise Punk when he was with the company as some sort of passive aggressive scheme to fuck with Phil.

It got to the point where it almost got physical but both guys sort of snapped back to reality and ended up shaking hands and burying the beef because they realized it was bullshit.

Nemeth supposedly got blackballed by the company over this and that's why he sort of just disappeared from AEW.
 
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